fix: correct Owner restoration in FlatRoutes (closes #3014 )

change: remove generic rendering (#3015 )
Fix custom root when not using islands. (#3016 )
2025-12-28 12:31:55 -05:00 · 2024-09-24 19:35:19 -04:00 · 2024-09-24 17:01:57 -04:00 · 2024-09-24 11:42:54 -07:00
81 changed files with 2734 additions and 4434 deletions
--- a/examples/gtk/Cargo.toml
+++ b/examples/gtk/Cargo.toml
@@ -1,18 +0,0 @@
-[package]
-name = "gtk"
-version = "0.1.0"
-edition = "2021"
-
-[dependencies]
-leptos = { path = "../../leptos" }
-throw_error = { path = "../../any_error/" }
-
-# these are used to build the integration
-gtk = { version = "0.9.0", package = "gtk4" }
-next_tuple = { path = "../../next_tuple/" }
-paste = "1.0"
-
-# we want to support using glib for the reactive runtime event loop
-any_spawner = { path = "../../any_spawner/", features = ["glib"] }
-# yes, we want effects to run: this is a "frontend," not a backend
-reactive_graph = { path = "../../reactive_graph", features = ["effects"] }
--- a/examples/gtk/Makefile.toml
+++ b/examples/gtk/Makefile.toml
@@ -1 +0,0 @@
-extend = [{ path = "../cargo-make/main.toml" }]
--- a/examples/gtk/index.html
+++ b/examples/gtk/index.html
@@ -1,8 +0,0 @@
-<!DOCTYPE html>
-<html>
-	<head>
-		<meta name="color-scheme" content="dark">
-		<link rel="css" href="style.css" data-trunk>
-	</head>
-	<body></body>
-</html>
--- a/examples/gtk/src/leptos_gtk.rs
+++ b/examples/gtk/src/leptos_gtk.rs
@@ -1,645 +0,0 @@
-use self::properties::Connect;
-use gtk::{
-    glib::{
-        object::{IsA, IsClass, ObjectExt},
-        Object, Value,
-    },
-    prelude::{Cast, WidgetExt},
-    Label, Orientation, Widget,
-};
-use leptos::{
-    reactive_graph::effect::RenderEffect,
-    tachys::{
-        renderer::{CastFrom, Renderer},
-        view::{Mountable, Render},
-    },
-};
-use next_tuple::NextTuple;
-use std::marker::PhantomData;
-
-#[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct LeptosGtk;
-
-#[derive(Debug, Clone)]
-pub struct Element(pub Widget);
-
-impl Element {
-    pub fn remove(&self) {
-        self.0.unparent();
-    }
-}
-
-#[derive(Debug, Clone)]
-pub struct Text(pub Element);
-
-impl<T> From<T> for Element
-where
-    T: Into<Widget>,
-{
-    fn from(value: T) -> Self {
-        Element(value.into())
-    }
-}
-
-impl Mountable<LeptosGtk> for Element {
-    fn unmount(&mut self) {
-        self.remove()
-    }
-
-    fn mount(
-        &mut self,
-        parent: &<LeptosGtk as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<LeptosGtk as Renderer>::Node>,
-    ) {
-        self.0
-            .insert_before(&parent.0, marker.as_ref().map(|m| &m.0));
-    }
-
-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<LeptosGtk>) -> bool {
-        if let Some(parent) = self.0.parent() {
-            child.mount(&Element(parent), Some(self));
-            return true;
-        }
-        false
-    }
-}
-
-impl Mountable<LeptosGtk> for Text {
-    fn unmount(&mut self) {
-        self.0.remove()
-    }
-
-    fn mount(
-        &mut self,
-        parent: &<LeptosGtk as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<LeptosGtk as Renderer>::Node>,
-    ) {
-        self.0
-             .0
-            .insert_before(&parent.0, marker.as_ref().map(|m| &m.0));
-    }
-
-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<LeptosGtk>) -> bool {
-        self.0.insert_before_this(child)
-    }
-}
-
-impl CastFrom<Element> for Element {
-    fn cast_from(source: Element) -> Option<Self> {
-        Some(source)
-    }
-}
-
-impl CastFrom<Element> for Text {
-    fn cast_from(source: Element) -> Option<Self> {
-        source
-            .0
-            .downcast::<Label>()
-            .ok()
-            .map(|n| Text(Element::from(n)))
-    }
-}
-
-impl AsRef<Element> for Element {
-    fn as_ref(&self) -> &Element {
-        self
-    }
-}
-
-impl AsRef<Element> for Text {
-    fn as_ref(&self) -> &Element {
-        &self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl Renderer for LeptosGtk {
-    type Node = Element;
-    type Element = Element;
-    type Text = Text;
-    type Placeholder = Element;
-
-    fn intern(text: &str) -> &str {
-        text
-    }
-
-    fn create_text_node(text: &str) -> Self::Text {
-        Text(Element::from(Label::new(Some(text))))
-    }
-
-    fn create_placeholder() -> Self::Placeholder {
-        let label = Label::new(None);
-        label.set_visible(false);
-        Element::from(label)
-    }
-
-    fn set_text(node: &Self::Text, text: &str) {
-        let node_as_text = node.0 .0.downcast_ref::<Label>().unwrap();
-        node_as_text.set_label(text);
-    }
-
-    fn set_attribute(node: &Self::Element, name: &str, value: &str) {
-        node.0.set_property(name, value);
-    }
-
-    fn remove_attribute(node: &Self::Element, name: &str) {
-        node.0.set_property(name, None::<&str>);
-    }
-
-    fn insert_node(
-        parent: &Self::Element,
-        new_child: &Self::Node,
-        marker: Option<&Self::Node>,
-    ) {
-        new_child
-            .0
-            .insert_before(&parent.0, marker.as_ref().map(|n| &n.0));
-    }
-
-    fn remove_node(
-        _parent: &Self::Element,
-        _child: &Self::Node,
-    ) -> Option<Self::Node> {
-        todo!()
-    }
-
-    fn remove(_node: &Self::Node) {
-        todo!()
-    }
-
-    fn get_parent(node: &Self::Node) -> Option<Self::Node> {
-        node.0.parent().map(Element::from)
-    }
-
-    fn first_child(_node: &Self::Node) -> Option<Self::Node> {
-        todo!()
-    }
-
-    fn next_sibling(_node: &Self::Node) -> Option<Self::Node> {
-        todo!()
-    }
-
-    fn log_node(node: &Self::Node) {
-        println!("{node:?}");
-    }
-
-    fn clear_children(_parent: &Self::Element) {
-        todo!()
-    }
-}
-
-pub fn root<Chil>(children: Chil) -> (Widget, impl Mountable<LeptosGtk>)
-where
-    Chil: Render<LeptosGtk>,
-{
-    let state = r#box()
-        .orientation(Orientation::Vertical)
-        .spacing(12)
-        .child(children)
-        .build();
-    (state.as_widget().clone(), state)
-}
-
-pub trait WidgetClass {
-    type Widget: Into<Widget> + IsA<Object> + IsClass;
-}
-
-pub struct LGtkWidget<Widg, Props, Chil> {
-    widget: PhantomData<Widg>,
-    properties: Props,
-    children: Chil,
-}
-
-impl<Widg, Props, Chil> LGtkWidget<Widg, Props, Chil>
-where
-    Widg: WidgetClass,
-    Chil: NextTuple,
-{
-    pub fn child<T>(
-        self,
-        child: T,
-    ) -> LGtkWidget<Widg, Props, Chil::Output<T>> {
-        let LGtkWidget {
-            widget,
-            properties,
-            children,
-        } = self;
-        LGtkWidget {
-            widget,
-            properties,
-            children: children.next_tuple(child),
-        }
-    }
-}
-impl<Widg, Props, Chil> LGtkWidget<Widg, Props, Chil>
-where
-    Widg: WidgetClass,
-    Props: NextTuple,
-    Chil: Render<LeptosGtk>,
-{
-    pub fn connect<F>(
-        self,
-        signal_name: &'static str,
-        callback: F,
-    ) -> LGtkWidget<Widg, Props::Output<Connect<F>>, Chil>
-    where
-        F: Fn(&[Value]) -> Option<Value> + Send + Sync + 'static,
-    {
-        let LGtkWidget {
-            widget,
-            properties,
-            children,
-        } = self;
-        LGtkWidget {
-            widget,
-            properties: properties.next_tuple(Connect {
-                signal_name,
-                callback,
-            }),
-            children,
-        }
-    }
-}
-
-pub struct LGtkWidgetState<Widg, Props, Chil>
-where
-    Chil: Render<LeptosGtk>,
-    Props: Property,
-    Widg: WidgetClass,
-{
-    ty: PhantomData<Widg>,
-    widget: Element,
-    properties: Props::State,
-    children: Chil::State,
-}
-
-impl<Widg, Props, Chil> LGtkWidgetState<Widg, Props, Chil>
-where
-    Chil: Render<LeptosGtk>,
-    Props: Property,
-    Widg: WidgetClass,
-{
-    pub fn as_widget(&self) -> &Widget {
-        &self.widget.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<Widg, Props, Chil> Render<LeptosGtk> for LGtkWidget<Widg, Props, Chil>
-where
-    Widg: WidgetClass,
-    Props: Property,
-    Chil: Render<LeptosGtk>,
-{
-    type State = LGtkWidgetState<Widg, Props, Chil>;
-
-    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        let widget = Object::new::<Widg::Widget>();
-        let widget = Element::from(widget);
-        let properties = self.properties.build(&widget);
-        let mut children = self.children.build();
-        children.mount(&widget, None);
-        LGtkWidgetState {
-            ty: PhantomData,
-            widget,
-            properties,
-            children,
-        }
-    }
-
-    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
-        self.properties
-            .rebuild(&state.widget, &mut state.properties);
-        self.children.rebuild(&mut state.children);
-    }
-}
-
-impl<Widg, Props, Chil> Mountable<LeptosGtk>
-    for LGtkWidgetState<Widg, Props, Chil>
-where
-    Widg: WidgetClass,
-    Props: Property,
-    Chil: Render<LeptosGtk>,
-{
-    fn unmount(&mut self) {
-        self.children.unmount();
-        self.widget.remove();
-    }
-
-    fn mount(
-        &mut self,
-        parent: &<LeptosGtk as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<LeptosGtk as Renderer>::Node>,
-    ) {
-        self.children.mount(&self.widget, None);
-        LeptosGtk::insert_node(parent, &self.widget, marker);
-    }
-
-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<LeptosGtk>) -> bool {
-        self.widget.insert_before_this(child)
-    }
-}
-
-pub trait Property {
-    type State;
-
-    fn build(self, element: &Element) -> Self::State;
-
-    fn rebuild(self, element: &Element, state: &mut Self::State);
-}
-
-impl<T, F> Property for F
-where
-    T: Property,
-    T::State: 'static,
-    F: Fn() -> T + 'static,
-{
-    type State = RenderEffect<T::State>;
-
-    fn build(self, widget: &Element) -> Self::State {
-        let widget = widget.clone();
-        RenderEffect::new(move |prev| {
-            let value = self();
-            if let Some(mut prev) = prev {
-                value.rebuild(&widget, &mut prev);
-                prev
-            } else {
-                value.build(&widget)
-            }
-        })
-    }
-
-    fn rebuild(self, widget: &Element, state: &mut Self::State) {
-        let prev_value = state.take_value();
-        let widget = widget.to_owned();
-        *state = RenderEffect::new_with_value(
-            move |prev| {
-                let value = self();
-                if let Some(mut state) = prev {
-                    value.rebuild(&widget, &mut state);
-                    state
-                } else {
-                    unreachable!()
-                }
-            },
-            prev_value,
-        );
-    }
-}
-
-pub fn button() -> LGtkWidget<gtk::Button, (), ()> {
-    LGtkWidget {
-        widget: PhantomData,
-        properties: (),
-        children: (),
-    }
-}
-
-pub fn r#box() -> LGtkWidget<gtk::Box, (), ()> {
-    LGtkWidget {
-        widget: PhantomData,
-        properties: (),
-        children: (),
-    }
-}
-
-mod widgets {
-    use super::WidgetClass;
-
-    impl WidgetClass for gtk::Button {
-        type Widget = Self;
-    }
-
-    impl WidgetClass for gtk::Box {
-        type Widget = Self;
-    }
-}
-
-pub mod properties {
-    #![allow(dead_code)]
-
-    use super::{Element, LGtkWidget, LeptosGtk, Property, WidgetClass};
-    use gtk::glib::{object::ObjectExt, Value};
-    use leptos::tachys::{renderer::Renderer, view::Render};
-    use next_tuple::NextTuple;
-
-    pub struct Connect<F>
-    where
-        F: Fn(&[Value]) -> Option<Value> + Send + Sync + 'static,
-    {
-        pub signal_name: &'static str,
-        pub callback: F,
-    }
-
-    impl<F> Property for Connect<F>
-    where
-        F: Fn(&[Value]) -> Option<Value> + Send + Sync + 'static,
-    {
-        type State = ();
-
-        fn build(self, element: &Element) -> Self::State {
-            element.0.connect(self.signal_name, false, self.callback);
-        }
-
-        fn rebuild(self, _element: &Element, _state: &mut Self::State) {
-            // TODO we want to *remove* the previous listener, and reconnect with this new one
-        }
-    }
-
-    /* examples for macro */
-    pub struct Orientation {
-        value: gtk::Orientation,
-    }
-
-    pub struct OrientationState {
-        value: gtk::Orientation,
-    }
-
-    impl Property for Orientation {
-        type State = OrientationState;
-
-        fn build(self, element: &Element) -> Self::State {
-            element.0.set_property("orientation", self.value);
-            OrientationState { value: self.value }
-        }
-
-        fn rebuild(self, element: &Element, state: &mut Self::State) {
-            if self.value != state.value {
-                element.0.set_property("orientation", self.value);
-                state.value = self.value;
-            }
-        }
-    }
-
-    impl<Widg, Props, Chil> LGtkWidget<Widg, Props, Chil>
-    where
-        Widg: WidgetClass,
-        Props: NextTuple,
-        Chil: Render<LeptosGtk>,
-    {
-        pub fn orientation(
-            self,
-            value: impl Into<gtk::Orientation>,
-        ) -> LGtkWidget<Widg, Props::Output<Orientation>, Chil> {
-            let LGtkWidget {
-                widget,
-                properties,
-                children,
-            } = self;
-            LGtkWidget {
-                widget,
-                properties: properties.next_tuple(Orientation {
-                    value: value.into(),
-                }),
-                children,
-            }
-        }
-    }
-
-    pub struct Spacing {
-        value: i32,
-    }
-
-    pub struct SpacingState {
-        value: i32,
-    }
-
-    impl Property for Spacing {
-        type State = SpacingState;
-
-        fn build(self, element: &Element) -> Self::State {
-            element.0.set_property("spacing", self.value);
-            SpacingState { value: self.value }
-        }
-
-        fn rebuild(self, element: &Element, state: &mut Self::State) {
-            if self.value != state.value {
-                element.0.set_property("spacing", self.value);
-                state.value = self.value;
-            }
-        }
-    }
-
-    impl<Widg, Props, Chil> LGtkWidget<Widg, Props, Chil>
-    where
-        Widg: WidgetClass,
-        Props: NextTuple,
-        Chil: Render<LeptosGtk>,
-    {
-        pub fn spacing(
-            self,
-            value: impl Into<i32>,
-        ) -> LGtkWidget<Widg, Props::Output<Spacing>, Chil> {
-            let LGtkWidget {
-                widget,
-                properties,
-                children,
-            } = self;
-            LGtkWidget {
-                widget,
-                properties: properties.next_tuple(Spacing {
-                    value: value.into(),
-                }),
-                children,
-            }
-        }
-    }
-
-    /* end examples for properties macro */
-    #[derive(Debug)]
-    pub struct Label {
-        value: String,
-    }
-
-    impl Label {
-        pub fn new(value: impl Into<String>) -> Self {
-            Self {
-                value: value.into(),
-            }
-        }
-    }
-
-    pub struct LabelState {
-        value: String,
-    }
-
-    impl Property for Label {
-        type State = LabelState;
-
-        fn build(self, element: &Element) -> Self::State {
-            LeptosGtk::set_attribute(element, "label", &self.value);
-            LabelState { value: self.value }
-        }
-
-        fn rebuild(self, element: &Element, state: &mut Self::State) {
-            if self.value != state.value {
-                LeptosGtk::set_attribute(element, "label", &self.value);
-            }
-        }
-    }
-
-    impl Property for () {
-        type State = ();
-
-        fn build(self, _element: &Element) -> Self::State {}
-
-        fn rebuild(self, _element: &Element, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
-    }
-
-    macro_rules! tuples {
-        ($($ty:ident),* $(,)?) => {
-            impl<$($ty,)*> Property for ($($ty,)*)
-                where $($ty: Property,)*
-            {
-                type State = ($($ty::State,)*);
-
-                fn build(self, element: &Element) -> Self::State {
-                    #[allow(non_snake_case)]
-                    let ($($ty,)*) = self;
-                    ($($ty.build(element),)*)
-                }
-
-                fn rebuild(self, element: &Element, state: &mut Self::State) {
-                    paste::paste! {
-                        #[allow(non_snake_case)]
-                        let ($($ty,)*) = self;
-                        #[allow(non_snake_case)]
-                        let ($([<state_ $ty:lower>],)*) = state;
-                        $($ty.rebuild(element, [<state_ $ty:lower>]));*
-                    }
-                }
-            }
-        }
-    }
-
-    tuples!(A);
-    tuples!(A, B);
-    tuples!(A, B, C);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U);
-    tuples!(A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V);
-    tuples!(
-        A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W
-    );
-    tuples!(
-        A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X
-    );
-    tuples!(
-        A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X,
-        Y
-    );
-}
--- a/examples/gtk/src/main.rs
+++ b/examples/gtk/src/main.rs
@@ -1,107 +0,0 @@
-use any_spawner::Executor;
-use gtk::{prelude::*, Application, ApplicationWindow, Orientation};
-use leptos::prelude::*;
-use leptos_gtk::LeptosGtk;
-use std::{mem, thread, time::Duration};
-mod leptos_gtk;
-
-const APP_ID: &str = "dev.leptos.Counter";
-
-// Basic GTK app setup from https://gtk-rs.org/gtk4-rs/stable/latest/book/hello_world.html
-fn main() {
-    // use the glib event loop to power the reactive system
-    _ = Executor::init_glib();
-    let app = Application::builder().application_id(APP_ID).build();
-
-    app.connect_startup(|_| load_css());
-
-    app.connect_activate(|app| {
-        // Connect to "activate" signal of `app`
-        let owner = Owner::new();
-        let view = owner.with(ui);
-        let (root, state) = leptos_gtk::root(view);
-
-        let window = ApplicationWindow::builder()
-            .application(app)
-            .title("TachyGTK")
-            .child(&root)
-            .build();
-        // Present window
-        window.present();
-        mem::forget((owner, state));
-    });
-
-    app.run();
-}
-
-fn ui() -> impl Render<LeptosGtk> {
-    let value = RwSignal::new(0);
-    let rows = RwSignal::new(vec![1, 2, 3, 4, 5]);
-
-    Effect::new(move |_| {
-        println!("value = {}", value.get());
-    });
-
-    // just an example of multithreaded reactivity
-    thread::spawn(move || loop {
-        thread::sleep(Duration::from_millis(250));
-        value.update(|n| *n += 1);
-    });
-
-    vstack((
-        hstack((
-            button("-1", move || {
-                println!("clicked -1");
-                value.update(|n| *n -= 1);
-            }),
-            move || value.get().to_string(),
-            button("+1", move || value.update(|n| *n += 1)),
-        )),
-        button("Swap", move || {
-            rows.update(|items| {
-                items.swap(1, 3);
-            })
-        }),
-        hstack(rows),
-    ))
-}
-
-fn button(
-    label: impl Render<LeptosGtk>,
-    callback: impl Fn() + Send + Sync + 'static,
-) -> impl Render<LeptosGtk> {
-    leptos_gtk::button()
-        .child(label)
-        .connect("clicked", move |_| {
-            callback();
-            None
-        })
-}
-
-fn vstack(children: impl Render<LeptosGtk>) -> impl Render<LeptosGtk> {
-    leptos_gtk::r#box()
-        .orientation(Orientation::Vertical)
-        .spacing(12)
-        .child(children)
-}
-
-fn hstack(children: impl Render<LeptosGtk>) -> impl Render<LeptosGtk> {
-    leptos_gtk::r#box()
-        .orientation(Orientation::Horizontal)
-        .spacing(12)
-        .child(children)
-}
-
-fn load_css() {
-    use gtk::{gdk::Display, CssProvider};
-
-    let provider = CssProvider::new();
-    provider.load_from_path("style.css");
-
-    // Add the provider to the default screen
-    gtk::style_context_add_provider_for_display(
-        &Display::default().expect("Could not connect to a display."),
-        &provider,
-        gtk::STYLE_PROVIDER_PRIORITY_APPLICATION,
-    );
-}
--- a/examples/gtk/style.css
+++ b/examples/gtk/style.css
--- a/examples/router/src/lib.rs
+++ b/examples/router/src/lib.rs
@@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ pub fn RouterExample() -> impl IntoView {
 // You can define other routes in their own component.
 // Routes implement the MatchNestedRoutes
 #[component]
-pub fn ContactRoutes() -> impl MatchNestedRoutes<Dom> + Clone {
+pub fn ContactRoutes() -> impl MatchNestedRoutes + Clone {
    view! {
        <ParentRoute path=path!("") view=ContactList>
            <Route path=path!("/") view=|| "Select a contact."/>
--- a/leptos/src/children.rs
+++ b/leptos/src/children.rs
@@ -3,13 +3,10 @@ use std::{
    fmt::{self, Debug},
    sync::Arc,
 };
-use tachys::{
-    renderer::dom::Dom,
-    view::{
-        any_view::{AnyView, IntoAny},
-        fragment::{Fragment, IntoFragment},
-        RenderHtml,
-    },
+use tachys::view::{
+    any_view::{AnyView, IntoAny},
+    fragment::{Fragment, IntoFragment},
+    RenderHtml,
 };

 /// The most common type for the `children` property on components,
@@ -17,31 +14,31 @@ use tachys::{
 ///
 /// This does not support iterating over individual nodes within the children.
 /// To iterate over children, use [`ChildrenFragment`].
-pub type Children = Box<dyn FnOnce() -> AnyView<Dom> + Send>;
+pub type Children = Box<dyn FnOnce() -> AnyView + Send>;

 /// A type for the `children` property on components that can be called only once,
 /// and provides a collection of all the children passed to this component.
-pub type ChildrenFragment = Box<dyn FnOnce() -> Fragment<Dom> + Send>;
+pub type ChildrenFragment = Box<dyn FnOnce() -> Fragment + Send>;

 /// A type for the `children` property on components that can be called
 /// more than once.
-pub type ChildrenFn = Arc<dyn Fn() -> AnyView<Dom> + Send + Sync>;
+pub type ChildrenFn = Arc<dyn Fn() -> AnyView + Send + Sync>;

 /// A type for the `children` property on components that can be called more than once,
 /// and provides a collection of all the children passed to this component.
-pub type ChildrenFragmentFn = Arc<dyn Fn() -> Fragment<Dom> + Send>;
+pub type ChildrenFragmentFn = Arc<dyn Fn() -> Fragment + Send>;

 /// A type for the `children` property on components that can be called
 /// more than once, but may mutate the children.
-pub type ChildrenFnMut = Box<dyn FnMut() -> AnyView<Dom> + Send>;
+pub type ChildrenFnMut = Box<dyn FnMut() -> AnyView + Send>;

 /// A type for the `children` property on components that can be called more than once,
 /// but may mutate the children, and provides a collection of all the children
 /// passed to this component.
-pub type ChildrenFragmentMut = Box<dyn FnMut() -> Fragment<Dom> + Send>;
+pub type ChildrenFragmentMut = Box<dyn FnMut() -> Fragment + Send>;

 // This is to still support components that accept `Box<dyn Fn() -> AnyView>` as a children.
-type BoxedChildrenFn = Box<dyn Fn() -> AnyView<Dom> + Send>;
+type BoxedChildrenFn = Box<dyn Fn() -> AnyView + Send>;

 /// This trait can be used when constructing a component that takes children without needing
 /// to know exactly what children type the component expects. This is used internally by the
@@ -97,7 +94,7 @@ pub trait ToChildren<F> {
 impl<F, C> ToChildren<F> for Children
 where
    F: FnOnce() -> C + Send + 'static,
-    C: RenderHtml<Dom> + Send + 'static,
+    C: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
    #[inline]
    fn to_children(f: F) -> Self {
@@ -108,7 +105,7 @@ where
 impl<F, C> ToChildren<F> for ChildrenFn
 where
    F: Fn() -> C + Send + Sync + 'static,
-    C: RenderHtml<Dom> + Send + 'static,
+    C: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
    #[inline]
    fn to_children(f: F) -> Self {
@@ -119,7 +116,7 @@ where
 impl<F, C> ToChildren<F> for ChildrenFnMut
 where
    F: Fn() -> C + Send + 'static,
-    C: RenderHtml<Dom> + Send + 'static,
+    C: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
    #[inline]
    fn to_children(f: F) -> Self {
@@ -130,7 +127,7 @@ where
 impl<F, C> ToChildren<F> for BoxedChildrenFn
 where
    F: Fn() -> C + Send + 'static,
-    C: RenderHtml<Dom> + Send + 'static,
+    C: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
    #[inline]
    fn to_children(f: F) -> Self {
@@ -141,7 +138,7 @@ where
 impl<F, C> ToChildren<F> for ChildrenFragment
 where
    F: FnOnce() -> C + Send + 'static,
-    C: IntoFragment<Dom>,
+    C: IntoFragment,
 {
    #[inline]
    fn to_children(f: F) -> Self {
@@ -152,7 +149,7 @@ where
 impl<F, C> ToChildren<F> for ChildrenFragmentFn
 where
    F: Fn() -> C + Send + 'static,
-    C: IntoFragment<Dom>,
+    C: IntoFragment,
 {
    #[inline]
    fn to_children(f: F) -> Self {
@@ -163,7 +160,7 @@ where
 impl<F, C> ToChildren<F> for ChildrenFragmentMut
 where
    F: FnMut() -> C + Send + 'static,
-    C: IntoFragment<Dom>,
+    C: IntoFragment,
 {
    #[inline]
    fn to_children(mut f: F) -> Self {
@@ -174,7 +171,7 @@ where
 /// New-type wrapper for a function that returns a view with `From` and `Default` traits implemented
 /// to enable optional props in for example `<Show>` and `<Suspense>`.
 #[derive(Clone)]
-pub struct ViewFn(Arc<dyn Fn() -> AnyView<Dom> + Send + Sync + 'static>);
+pub struct ViewFn(Arc<dyn Fn() -> AnyView + Send + Sync + 'static>);

 impl Default for ViewFn {
    fn default() -> Self {
@@ -185,7 +182,7 @@ impl Default for ViewFn {
 impl<F, C> From<F> for ViewFn
 where
    F: Fn() -> C + Send + Sync + 'static,
-    C: RenderHtml<Dom> + Send + 'static,
+    C: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
    fn from(value: F) -> Self {
        Self(Arc::new(move || value().into_any()))
@@ -194,14 +191,14 @@ where

 impl ViewFn {
    /// Execute the wrapped function
-    pub fn run(&self) -> AnyView<Dom> {
+    pub fn run(&self) -> AnyView {
        (self.0)()
    }
 }

 /// New-type wrapper for a function, which will only be called once and returns a view with `From` and
 /// `Default` traits implemented to enable optional props in for example `<Show>` and `<Suspense>`.
-pub struct ViewFnOnce(Box<dyn FnOnce() -> AnyView<Dom> + Send + 'static>);
+pub struct ViewFnOnce(Box<dyn FnOnce() -> AnyView + Send + 'static>);

 impl Default for ViewFnOnce {
    fn default() -> Self {
@@ -212,7 +209,7 @@ impl Default for ViewFnOnce {
 impl<F, C> From<F> for ViewFnOnce
 where
    F: FnOnce() -> C + Send + 'static,
-    C: RenderHtml<Dom> + Send + 'static,
+    C: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
    fn from(value: F) -> Self {
        Self(Box::new(move || value().into_any()))
@@ -221,7 +218,7 @@ where

 impl ViewFnOnce {
    /// Execute the wrapped function
-    pub fn run(self) -> AnyView<Dom> {
+    pub fn run(self) -> AnyView {
        (self.0)()
    }
 }
--- a/leptos/src/error_boundary.rs
+++ b/leptos/src/error_boundary.rs
@@ -9,12 +9,11 @@ use reactive_graph::{
    traits::{Get, Update, With, WithUntracked},
 };
 use rustc_hash::FxHashMap;
-use std::{fmt::Debug, marker::PhantomData, sync::Arc};
+use std::{fmt::Debug, sync::Arc};
 use tachys::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
    hydration::Cursor,
    reactive_graph::OwnedView,
-    renderer::Renderer,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{
        add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
@@ -112,20 +111,18 @@ where
            children,
            errors,
            fallback,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        },
        owner,
    )
 }

-struct ErrorBoundaryView<Chil, FalFn, Rndr> {
+struct ErrorBoundaryView<Chil, FalFn> {
    hook: Arc<dyn ErrorHook>,
    boundary_id: SerializedDataId,
    errors_empty: ArcMemo<bool>,
    children: Chil,
    fallback: FalFn,
    errors: ArcRwSignal<Errors>,
-    rndr: PhantomData<Rndr>,
 }

 struct ErrorBoundaryViewState<Chil, Fal> {
@@ -134,11 +131,10 @@ struct ErrorBoundaryViewState<Chil, Fal> {
    fallback: Option<Fal>,
 }

-impl<Chil, Fal, Rndr> Mountable<Rndr> for ErrorBoundaryViewState<Chil, Fal>
+impl<Chil, Fal> Mountable for ErrorBoundaryViewState<Chil, Fal>
 where
-    Chil: Mountable<Rndr>,
-    Fal: Mountable<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    Chil: Mountable,
+    Fal: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        if let Some(fallback) = &mut self.fallback {
@@ -148,7 +144,11 @@ where
        }
    }

-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &Rndr::Element, marker: Option<&Rndr::Node>) {
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &tachys::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&tachys::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
        if let Some(fallback) = &mut self.fallback {
            fallback.mount(parent, marker);
        } else {
@@ -156,7 +156,7 @@ where
        }
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Rndr>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        if let Some(fallback) = &self.fallback {
            fallback.insert_before_this(child)
        } else {
@@ -165,13 +165,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Chil, FalFn, Fal, Rndr> Render<Rndr>
-    for ErrorBoundaryView<Chil, FalFn, Rndr>
+impl<Chil, FalFn, Fal> Render for ErrorBoundaryView<Chil, FalFn>
 where
-    Chil: Render<Rndr> + 'static,
+    Chil: Render + 'static,
    FalFn: FnMut(ArcRwSignal<Errors>) -> Fal + Send + 'static,
-    Fal: Render<Rndr> + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    Fal: Render + 'static,
 {
    type State = RenderEffect<ErrorBoundaryViewState<Chil::State, Fal::State>>;

@@ -228,26 +226,21 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Chil, FalFn, Fal, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr>
-    for ErrorBoundaryView<Chil, FalFn, Rndr>
+impl<Chil, FalFn, Fal> AddAnyAttr for ErrorBoundaryView<Chil, FalFn>
 where
-    Chil: RenderHtml<Rndr> + 'static,
+    Chil: RenderHtml + 'static,
    FalFn: FnMut(ArcRwSignal<Errors>) -> Fal + Send + 'static,
-    Fal: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    Fal: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = ErrorBoundaryView<
-        Chil::Output<SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned>,
-        FalFn,
-        Rndr,
-    >;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        ErrorBoundaryView<Chil::Output<SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned>, FalFn>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let ErrorBoundaryView {
            hook,
@@ -256,7 +249,6 @@ where
            children,
            fallback,
            errors,
-            rndr,
        } = self;
        ErrorBoundaryView {
            hook,
@@ -265,20 +257,17 @@ where
            children: children.add_any_attr(attr.into_cloneable_owned()),
            fallback,
            errors,
-            rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<Chil, FalFn, Fal, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr>
-    for ErrorBoundaryView<Chil, FalFn, Rndr>
+impl<Chil, FalFn, Fal> RenderHtml for ErrorBoundaryView<Chil, FalFn>
 where
-    Chil: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
+    Chil: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
    FalFn: FnMut(ArcRwSignal<Errors>) -> Fal + Send + 'static,
-    Fal: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    Fal: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
-    type AsyncOutput = ErrorBoundaryView<Chil::AsyncOutput, FalFn, Rndr>;
+    type AsyncOutput = ErrorBoundaryView<Chil::AsyncOutput, FalFn>;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = Chil::MIN_LENGTH;

@@ -303,7 +292,6 @@ where
            children: children.resolve().await,
            fallback,
            errors,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }

@@ -377,7 +365,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        mut self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let mut children = Some(self.children);
--- a/leptos/src/for_loop.rs
+++ b/leptos/src/for_loop.rs
@@ -157,7 +157,7 @@ where
    };
    move || keyed(each(), key.clone(), children.clone())
 }
-
+/*
 #[cfg(test)]
 mod tests {
    use crate::prelude::*;
@@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ mod tests {
    fn creates_list() {
        Owner::new().with(|| {
            let values = RwSignal::new(vec![1, 2, 3, 4, 5]);
-            let list: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _, Dom>> = view! {
+            let list: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _>> = view! {
                <ol>
                    <For each=move || values.get() key=|i| *i let:i>
                        <li>{i}</li>
@@ -187,7 +187,7 @@ mod tests {
    fn creates_list_enumerate() {
        Owner::new().with(|| {
            let values = RwSignal::new(vec![1, 2, 3, 4, 5]);
-            let list: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _, Dom>> = view! {
+            let list: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _>> = view! {
                <ol>
                    <ForEnumerate each=move || values.get() key=|i| *i let(index, i)>
                        <li>{move || index.get()}"-"{i}</li>
@@ -200,7 +200,7 @@ mod tests {
                <!>-<!>4</li><li>4<!>-<!>5</li><!></ol>"
            );

-            let list: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _, Dom>> = view! {
+            let list: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _>> = view! {
                <ol>
                    <ForEnumerate each=move || values.get() key=|i| *i let(index, i)>
                        <li>{move || index.get()}"-"{i}</li>
@@ -216,3 +216,4 @@ mod tests {
        });
    }
 }
+ */
--- a/leptos/src/hydration/hydration_script.js
+++ b/leptos/src/hydration/hydration_script.js
@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
 (function (root, pkg_path, output_name, wasm_output_name) {
 	import(`${root}/${pkg_path}/${output_name}.js`)
 		.then(mod => {
-			mod.default(`/${pkg_path}/${wasm_output_name}.wasm`).then(() => {
+			mod.default(`${root}/${pkg_path}/${wasm_output_name}.wasm`).then(() => {
 				mod.hydrate();
 			});
 		})
-})
+})
--- a/leptos/src/into_view.rs
+++ b/leptos/src/into_view.rs
@@ -2,7 +2,6 @@ use std::borrow::Cow;
 use tachys::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
    hydration::Cursor,
-    renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{
        add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Position, PositionState, Render, RenderHtml,
@@ -50,14 +49,14 @@ impl<T> View<T> {

 pub trait IntoView
 where
-    Self: Sized + Render<Dom> + RenderHtml<Dom> + Send,
+    Self: Sized + Render + RenderHtml + Send,
 {
    fn into_view(self) -> View<Self>;
 }

 impl<T> IntoView for T
 where
-    T: Sized + Render<Dom> + RenderHtml<Dom> + Send, //+ AddAnyAttr<Dom>,
+    T: Sized + Render + RenderHtml + Send, //+ AddAnyAttr,
 {
    fn into_view(self) -> View<Self> {
        View {
@@ -68,7 +67,7 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T: Render<Rndr>, Rndr: Renderer> Render<Rndr> for View<T> {
+impl<T: Render> Render for View<T> {
    type State = T::State;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
@@ -80,10 +79,10 @@ impl<T: Render<Rndr>, Rndr: Renderer> Render<Rndr> for View<T> {
    }
 }

-impl<T: RenderHtml<Rndr>, Rndr: Renderer> RenderHtml<Rndr> for View<T> {
+impl<T: RenderHtml> RenderHtml for View<T> {
    type AsyncOutput = T::AsyncOutput;

-    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = <T as RenderHtml<Rndr>>::MIN_LENGTH;
+    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = <T as RenderHtml>::MIN_LENGTH;

    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
        self.inner.resolve().await
@@ -147,7 +146,7 @@ impl<T: RenderHtml<Rndr>, Rndr: Renderer> RenderHtml<Rndr> for View<T> {

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        self.inner.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(cursor, position)
@@ -166,18 +165,15 @@ impl<T: ToTemplate> ToTemplate for View<T> {
    }
 }

-impl<T: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for View<T>
-where
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-{
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = View<T::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;
+impl<T: AddAnyAttr> AddAnyAttr for View<T> {
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = View<T::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let View {
            inner,
--- a/leptos/src/mount.rs
+++ b/leptos/src/mount.rs
@@ -5,10 +5,8 @@ use any_spawner::Executor;
 use reactive_graph::owner::Owner;
 #[cfg(debug_assertions)]
 use std::cell::Cell;
-use std::marker::PhantomData;
 use tachys::{
    dom::body,
-    renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
    view::{Mountable, Render},
 };
 #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
@@ -38,10 +36,7 @@ thread_local! {

 #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
 /// Runs the provided closure and mounts the result to the provided element.
-pub fn hydrate_from<F, N>(
-    parent: HtmlElement,
-    f: F,
-) -> UnmountHandle<N::State, Dom>
+pub fn hydrate_from<F, N>(parent: HtmlElement, f: F) -> UnmountHandle<N::State>
 where
    F: FnOnce() -> N + 'static,
    N: IntoView,
@@ -85,11 +80,7 @@ where

    // returns a handle that owns the owner
    // when this is dropped, it will clean up the reactive system and unmount the view
-    UnmountHandle {
-        owner,
-        mountable,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
-    }
+    UnmountHandle { owner, mountable }
 }

 /// Runs the provided closure and mounts the result to the `<body>`.
@@ -103,7 +94,7 @@ where
 }

 /// Runs the provided closure and mounts the result to the provided element.
-pub fn mount_to<F, N>(parent: HtmlElement, f: F) -> UnmountHandle<N::State, Dom>
+pub fn mount_to<F, N>(parent: HtmlElement, f: F) -> UnmountHandle<N::State>
 where
    F: FnOnce() -> N + 'static,
    N: IntoView,
@@ -140,22 +131,17 @@ where

    // returns a handle that owns the owner
    // when this is dropped, it will clean up the reactive system and unmount the view
-    UnmountHandle {
-        owner,
-        mountable,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
-    }
+    UnmountHandle { owner, mountable }
 }

 /// Runs the provided closure and mounts the result to the provided element.
-pub fn mount_to_renderer<F, N, R>(
-    parent: &R::Element,
+pub fn mount_to_renderer<F, N>(
+    parent: &tachys::renderer::types::Element,
    f: F,
-) -> UnmountHandle<N::State, R>
+) -> UnmountHandle<N::State>
 where
    F: FnOnce() -> N + 'static,
-    N: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    N: Render,
 {
    // use wasm-bindgen-futures to drive the reactive system
    // we ignore the return value because an Err here just means the wasm-bindgen executor is
@@ -173,11 +159,7 @@ where

    // returns a handle that owns the owner
    // when this is dropped, it will clean up the reactive system and unmount the view
-    UnmountHandle {
-        owner,
-        mountable,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
-    }
+    UnmountHandle { owner, mountable }
 }

 /// Hydrates any islands that are currently present on the page.
@@ -211,21 +193,18 @@ pub fn hydrate_islands() {
              reactive system. You should either call `.forget()` to keep the \
              view permanently mounted, or store the `UnmountHandle` somewhere \
              and drop it when you'd like to unmount the view."]
-pub struct UnmountHandle<M, R>
+pub struct UnmountHandle<M>
 where
-    M: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    M: Mountable,
 {
    #[allow(dead_code)]
    owner: Owner,
    mountable: M,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<M, R> UnmountHandle<M, R>
+impl<M> UnmountHandle<M>
 where
-    M: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    M: Mountable,
 {
    /// Leaks the handle, preventing the reactive system from being cleaned up and the view from
    /// being unmounted. This should always be called when [`mount_to`] is used for the root of an
@@ -235,10 +214,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<M, R> Drop for UnmountHandle<M, R>
+impl<M> Drop for UnmountHandle<M>
 where
-    M: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    M: Mountable,
 {
    fn drop(&mut self) {
        self.mountable.unmount();
--- a/leptos/src/nonce.rs
+++ b/leptos/src/nonce.rs
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ use base64::{
 };
 use rand::{thread_rng, RngCore};
 use std::{fmt::Display, ops::Deref, sync::Arc};
-use tachys::{html::attribute::AttributeValue, renderer::Renderer};
+use tachys::html::attribute::AttributeValue;

 /// A cryptographic nonce ("number used once") which can be
 /// used by Content Security Policy to determine whether or not a given
@@ -65,12 +65,9 @@ impl Display for Nonce {
    }
 }

-impl<R> AttributeValue<R> for Nonce
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl AttributeValue for Nonce {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = <Arc<str> as AttributeValue<R>>::State;
+    type State = <Arc<str> as AttributeValue>::State;
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -79,7 +76,7 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, key: &str, buf: &mut String) {
-        <Arc<str> as AttributeValue<R>>::to_html(self.0, key, buf)
+        <Arc<str> as AttributeValue>::to_html(self.0, key, buf)
    }

    fn to_template(_key: &str, _buf: &mut String) {}
@@ -87,17 +84,21 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &tachys::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        <Arc<str> as AttributeValue<R>>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(self.0, key, el)
+        <Arc<str> as AttributeValue>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(self.0, key, el)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
-        <Arc<str> as AttributeValue<R>>::build(self.0, el, key)
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &tachys::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        <Arc<str> as AttributeValue>::build(self.0, el, key)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, key: &str, state: &mut Self::State) {
-        <Arc<str> as AttributeValue<R>>::rebuild(self.0, key, state)
+        <Arc<str> as AttributeValue>::rebuild(self.0, key, state)
    }

    fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
--- a/leptos/src/suspense_component.rs
+++ b/leptos/src/suspense_component.rs
@@ -21,7 +21,6 @@ use tachys::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
    hydration::Cursor,
    reactive_graph::{OwnedView, OwnedViewState},
-    renderer::Renderer,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{
        add_attr::AddAnyAttr,
@@ -135,15 +134,14 @@ pub(crate) struct SuspenseBoundary<const TRANSITION: bool, Fal, Chil> {
    pub children: Chil,
 }

-impl<const TRANSITION: bool, Fal, Chil, Rndr> Render<Rndr>
+impl<const TRANSITION: bool, Fal, Chil> Render
    for SuspenseBoundary<TRANSITION, Fal, Chil>
 where
-    Fal: Render<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
-    Chil: Render<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: Render + Send + 'static,
+    Chil: Render + Send + 'static,
 {
    type State = RenderEffect<
-        OwnedViewState<EitherKeepAliveState<Chil::State, Fal::State>, Rndr>,
+        OwnedViewState<EitherKeepAliveState<Chil::State, Fal::State>>,
    >;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
@@ -187,25 +185,24 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<const TRANSITION: bool, Fal, Chil, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr>
+impl<const TRANSITION: bool, Fal, Chil> AddAnyAttr
    for SuspenseBoundary<TRANSITION, Fal, Chil>
 where
-    Fal: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
-    Chil: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
+    Chil: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = SuspenseBoundary<
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = SuspenseBoundary<
        TRANSITION,
        Fal,
        Chil::Output<SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned>,
    >;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let attr = attr.into_cloneable_owned();
        let SuspenseBoundary {
@@ -223,12 +220,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<const TRANSITION: bool, Fal, Chil, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr>
+impl<const TRANSITION: bool, Fal, Chil> RenderHtml
    for SuspenseBoundary<TRANSITION, Fal, Chil>
 where
-    Fal: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
-    Chil: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
+    Chil: RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
    // i.e., if this is the child of another Suspense during SSR, don't wait for it: it will handle
    // itself
@@ -405,7 +401,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let cursor = cursor.to_owned();
@@ -455,10 +451,9 @@ impl<T> Unsuspend<T> {
    }
 }

-impl<T, Rndr> Render<Rndr> for Unsuspend<T>
+impl<T> Render for Unsuspend<T>
 where
-    T: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
 {
    type State = T::State;

@@ -471,30 +466,28 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for Unsuspend<T>
+impl<T> AddAnyAttr for Unsuspend<T>
 where
-    T: AddAnyAttr<Rndr> + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    T: AddAnyAttr + 'static,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> =
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
        Unsuspend<T::Output<SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned>>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let attr = attr.into_cloneable_owned();
        Unsuspend::new(move || (self.0)().add_any_attr(attr))
    }
 }

-impl<T, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for Unsuspend<T>
+impl<T> RenderHtml for Unsuspend<T>
 where
-    T: RenderHtml<Rndr> + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    T: RenderHtml + 'static,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -535,7 +528,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        (self.0)().hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(cursor, position)
--- a/leptos/tests/ssr.rs
+++ b/leptos/tests/ssr.rs
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ fn simple_ssr_test() {
    use leptos::prelude::*;

    let (value, set_value) = signal(0);
-    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _, Dom>> = view! {
+    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _>> = view! {
        <div>
            <button on:click=move |_| set_value.update(|value| *value -= 1)>"-1"</button>
            <span>"Value: " {move || value.get().to_string()} "!"</span>
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ fn ssr_test_with_components() {
        }
    }

-    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _, Dom>> = view! {
+    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _>> = view! {
        <div class="counters">
            <Counter initial_value=1/>
            <Counter initial_value=2/>
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@ fn ssr_test_with_snake_case_components() {
            </div>
        }
    }
-    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _, Dom>> = view! {
+    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _>> = view! {
        <div class="counters">
            <SnakeCaseCounter initial_value=1/>
            <SnakeCaseCounter initial_value=2/>
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ fn test_classes() {
    use leptos::prelude::*;

    let (value, _set_value) = signal(5);
-    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _, Dom>> = view! {
+    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _>> = view! {
        <div
            class="my big"
            class:a=move || { value.get() > 10 }
@@ -104,7 +104,7 @@ fn ssr_with_styles() {

    let (_, set_value) = signal(0);
    let styles = "myclass";
-    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _, Dom>> = view! { class=styles,
+    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _>> = view! { class=styles,
        <div>
            <button class="btn" on:click=move |_| set_value.update(|value| *value -= 1)>
                "-1"
@@ -124,7 +124,7 @@ fn ssr_option() {
    use leptos::prelude::*;

    let (_, _) = signal(0);
-    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _, Dom>> = view! { <option></option> };
+    let rendered: View<HtmlElement<_, _, _>> = view! { <option></option> };

    assert_eq!(rendered.to_html(), "<option></option>");
 }
--- a/leptos_server/src/lib.rs
+++ b/leptos_server/src/lib.rs
@@ -188,20 +188,18 @@ mod view_implementations {
        html::attribute::Attribute,
        hydration::Cursor,
        reactive_graph::{RenderEffectState, Suspend, SuspendState},
-        renderer::Renderer,
        ssr::StreamBuilder,
        view::{
            add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Position, PositionState, Render, RenderHtml,
        },
    };

-    impl<T, R, Ser> Render<R> for Resource<T, Ser>
+    impl<T, Ser> Render for Resource<T, Ser>
    where
-        T: Render<R> + Send + Sync + Clone,
+        T: Render + Send + Sync + Clone,
        Ser: Send + 'static,
-        R: Renderer,
    {
-        type State = RenderEffectState<SuspendState<T, R>>;
+        type State = RenderEffectState<SuspendState<T>>;

        fn build(self) -> Self::State {
            (move || Suspend::new(async move { self.await })).build()
@@ -212,19 +210,18 @@ mod view_implementations {
        }
    }

-    impl<T, R, Ser> AddAnyAttr<R> for Resource<T, Ser>
+    impl<T, Ser> AddAnyAttr for Resource<T, Ser>
    where
-        T: RenderHtml<R> + Send + Sync + Clone,
+        T: RenderHtml + Send + Sync + Clone,
        Ser: Send + 'static,
-        R: Renderer,
    {
-        type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> = Box<
+        type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = Box<
            dyn FnMut() -> Suspend<
                    Pin<
                        Box<
                            dyn Future<
-                                    Output = <T as AddAnyAttr<R>>::Output<
-                                        <SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned as Attribute<R>>::CloneableOwned,
+                                    Output = <T as AddAnyAttr>::Output<
+                                        <SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned as Attribute>::CloneableOwned,
                                    >,
                                > + Send,
                        >,
@@ -232,22 +229,21 @@ mod view_implementations {
                > + Send,
        >;

-        fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+        fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
            self,
            attr: NewAttr,
        ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
        where
-            Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+            Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
        {
            (move || Suspend::new(async move { self.await })).add_any_attr(attr)
        }
    }

-    impl<T, R, Ser> RenderHtml<R> for Resource<T, Ser>
+    impl<T, Ser> RenderHtml for Resource<T, Ser>
    where
-        T: RenderHtml<R> + Send + Sync + Clone,
+        T: RenderHtml + Send + Sync + Clone,
        Ser: Send + 'static,
-        R: Renderer,
    {
        type AsyncOutput = Option<T>;

@@ -296,7 +292,7 @@ mod view_implementations {

        fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
            self,
-            cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+            cursor: &Cursor,
            position: &PositionState,
        ) -> Self::State {
            (move || Suspend::new(async move { self.await }))
--- a/meta/src/body.rs
+++ b/meta/src/body.rs
@@ -7,7 +7,6 @@ use leptos::{
        dom::document,
        html::attribute::Attribute,
        hydration::Cursor,
-        renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
        view::{
            add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
            RenderHtml,
@@ -56,14 +55,14 @@ struct BodyView<At> {

 struct BodyViewState<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
    attributes: At::State,
 }

-impl<At> Render<Dom> for BodyView<At>
+impl<At> Render for BodyView<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
    type State = BodyViewState<At>;

@@ -79,19 +78,19 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<At> AddAnyAttr<Dom> for BodyView<At>
+impl<At> AddAnyAttr for BodyView<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Dom>> =
-        BodyView<<At as NextAttribute<Dom>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        BodyView<<At as NextAttribute>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Dom>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Dom>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        BodyView {
            attributes: self.attributes.add_any_attr(attr),
@@ -99,9 +98,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<At> RenderHtml<Dom> for BodyView<At>
+impl<At> RenderHtml for BodyView<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = BodyView<At::AsyncOutput>;

@@ -135,7 +134,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        _cursor: &Cursor<Dom>,
+        _cursor: &Cursor,
        _position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let el = document().body().expect("there to be a <body> element");
@@ -145,20 +144,20 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<At> Mountable<Dom> for BodyViewState<At>
+impl<At> Mountable for BodyViewState<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {}

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        _parent: &<Dom as Renderer>::Element,
-        _marker: Option<&<Dom as Renderer>::Node>,
+        _parent: &leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Element,
+        _marker: Option<&leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable<Dom>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        false
    }
 }
--- a/meta/src/html.rs
+++ b/meta/src/html.rs
@@ -7,7 +7,6 @@ use leptos::{
        dom::document,
        html::attribute::Attribute,
        hydration::Cursor,
-        renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
        view::{
            add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
            RenderHtml,
@@ -53,14 +52,14 @@ struct HtmlView<At> {

 struct HtmlViewState<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
    attributes: At::State,
 }

-impl<At> Render<Dom> for HtmlView<At>
+impl<At> Render for HtmlView<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
    type State = HtmlViewState<At>;

@@ -79,19 +78,19 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<At> AddAnyAttr<Dom> for HtmlView<At>
+impl<At> AddAnyAttr for HtmlView<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Dom>> =
-        HtmlView<<At as NextAttribute<Dom>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        HtmlView<<At as NextAttribute>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Dom>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Dom>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        HtmlView {
            attributes: self.attributes.add_any_attr(attr),
@@ -99,9 +98,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<At> RenderHtml<Dom> for HtmlView<At>
+impl<At> RenderHtml for HtmlView<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = HtmlView<At::AsyncOutput>;

@@ -135,7 +134,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        _cursor: &Cursor<Dom>,
+        _cursor: &Cursor,
        _position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let el = document()
@@ -148,22 +147,22 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<At> Mountable<Dom> for HtmlViewState<At>
+impl<At> Mountable for HtmlViewState<At>
 where
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {}

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        _parent: &<Dom as Renderer>::Element,
-        _marker: Option<&<Dom as Renderer>::Node>,
+        _parent: &leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Element,
+        _marker: Option<&leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        // <Html> only sets attributes
        // the <html> tag doesn't need to be mounted anywhere, of course
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable<Dom>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        false
    }
 }
--- a/meta/src/lib.rs
+++ b/meta/src/lib.rs
@@ -57,10 +57,9 @@ use leptos::{
        dom::document,
        html::{
            attribute::Attribute,
-            element::{CreateElement, ElementType, HtmlElement},
+            element::{ElementType, HtmlElement},
        },
        hydration::Cursor,
-        renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
        view::{
            add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
            RenderHtml,
@@ -106,7 +105,7 @@ pub struct MetaContext {
    /// Metadata associated with the `<title>` element.
    pub(crate) title: TitleContext,
    /// The hydration cursor for the location in the `<head>` for arbitrary tags will be rendered.
-    pub(crate) cursor: Arc<Lazy<SendWrapper<Cursor<Dom>>>>,
+    pub(crate) cursor: Arc<Lazy<SendWrapper<Cursor>>>,
 }

 impl MetaContext {
@@ -123,7 +122,7 @@ const COMMENT_NODE: u16 = 8;

 impl Default for MetaContext {
    fn default() -> Self {
-        let build_cursor: fn() -> SendWrapper<Cursor<Dom>> = || {
+        let build_cursor: fn() -> SendWrapper<Cursor> = || {
            let head = document().head().expect("missing <head> element");
            let mut cursor = None;
            let mut child = head.first_child();
@@ -323,10 +322,10 @@ pub fn use_head() -> MetaContext {
 }

 pub(crate) fn register<E, At, Ch>(
-    el: HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Dom>,
+    el: HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>,
 ) -> RegisteredMetaTag<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Dom>: RenderHtml<Dom>,
+    HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>: RenderHtml,
 {
    #[allow(unused_mut)] // used for `ssr`
    let mut el = Some(el);
@@ -358,19 +357,19 @@ where
 struct RegisteredMetaTag<E, At, Ch> {
    // this is `None` if we've already taken it out to render to HTML on the server
    // we don't render it in place in RenderHtml, so it's fine
-    el: Option<HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Dom>>,
+    el: Option<HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>>,
 }

 struct RegisteredMetaTagState<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Dom>: Render<Dom>,
+    HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>: Render,
 {
-    state: <HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Dom> as Render<Dom>>::State,
+    state: <HtmlElement<E, At, Ch> as Render>::State,
 }

 impl<E, At, Ch> Drop for RegisteredMetaTagState<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Dom>: Render<Dom>,
+    HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>: Render,
 {
    fn drop(&mut self) {
        self.state.unmount();
@@ -387,11 +386,11 @@ fn document_head() -> HtmlHeadElement {
    })
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch> Render<Dom> for RegisteredMetaTag<E, At, Ch>
+impl<E, At, Ch> Render for RegisteredMetaTag<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Dom>,
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
-    Ch: Render<Dom>,
+    E: ElementType,
+    At: Attribute,
+    Ch: Render,
 {
    type State = RegisteredMetaTagState<E, At, Ch>;

@@ -405,24 +404,21 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch> AddAnyAttr<Dom> for RegisteredMetaTag<E, At, Ch>
+impl<E, At, Ch> AddAnyAttr for RegisteredMetaTag<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Dom> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Dom> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Dom> + Send,
+    E: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Dom>> = RegisteredMetaTag<
-        E,
-        <At as NextAttribute<Dom>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>,
-        Ch,
-    >;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        RegisteredMetaTag<E, <At as NextAttribute>::Output<SomeNewAttr>, Ch>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Dom>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Dom>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        RegisteredMetaTag {
            el: self.el.map(|inner| inner.add_any_attr(attr)),
@@ -430,11 +426,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch> RenderHtml<Dom> for RegisteredMetaTag<E, At, Ch>
+impl<E, At, Ch> RenderHtml for RegisteredMetaTag<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Dom>,
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Dom> + Send,
+    E: ElementType,
+    At: Attribute,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -461,7 +457,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        _cursor: &Cursor<Dom>,
+        _cursor: &Cursor,
        _position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let cursor = use_context::<MetaContext>()
@@ -471,18 +467,18 @@ where
            )
            .cursor;
        let state = self.el.unwrap().hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
-            &*cursor,
+            &cursor,
            &PositionState::new(Position::NextChild),
        );
        RegisteredMetaTagState { state }
    }
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch> Mountable<Dom> for RegisteredMetaTagState<E, At, Ch>
+impl<E, At, Ch> Mountable for RegisteredMetaTagState<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Dom>,
-    At: Attribute<Dom>,
-    Ch: Render<Dom>,
+    E: ElementType,
+    At: Attribute,
+    Ch: Render,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.state.unmount();
@@ -490,8 +486,8 @@ where

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        _parent: &<Dom as Renderer>::Element,
-        _marker: Option<&<Dom as Renderer>::Node>,
+        _parent: &leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Element,
+        _marker: Option<&leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        // we always mount this to the <head>, which is the whole point
        // but this shouldn't warn about the parent being a regular element or being unused
@@ -500,7 +496,7 @@ where
        self.state.mount(&document_head(), None);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable<Dom>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        // Registered meta tags will be mounted in the <head>, but *seem* to be mounted somewhere
        // else in the DOM. We should never tell the renderer that we have successfully mounted
        // something before this, because if e.g., a <Meta/> is the first item in an Either, then
@@ -525,7 +521,7 @@ struct MetaTagsView;
 // rendering HTML for all the tags that will be injected into the `<head>`
 //
 // client-side rendering is handled by the individual components
-impl Render<Dom> for MetaTagsView {
+impl Render for MetaTagsView {
    type State = ();

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {}
@@ -533,21 +529,21 @@ impl Render<Dom> for MetaTagsView {
    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
 }

-impl AddAnyAttr<Dom> for MetaTagsView {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Dom>> = MetaTagsView;
+impl AddAnyAttr for MetaTagsView {
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = MetaTagsView;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Dom>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        _attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Dom>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        self
    }
 }

-impl RenderHtml<Dom> for MetaTagsView {
+impl RenderHtml for MetaTagsView {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
@@ -570,7 +566,7 @@ impl RenderHtml<Dom> for MetaTagsView {

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        _cursor: &Cursor<Dom>,
+        _cursor: &Cursor,
        _position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
    }
--- a/meta/src/title.rs
+++ b/meta/src/title.rs
@@ -10,7 +10,6 @@ use leptos::{
    tachys::{
        dom::document,
        hydration::Cursor,
-        renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
        view::{
            add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
            RenderHtml,
@@ -187,7 +186,7 @@ struct TitleViewState {
    effect: RenderEffect<Oco<'static, str>>,
 }

-impl Render<Dom> for TitleView {
+impl Render for TitleView {
    type State = TitleViewState;

    fn build(mut self) -> Self::State {
@@ -219,21 +218,21 @@ impl Render<Dom> for TitleView {
    }
 }

-impl AddAnyAttr<Dom> for TitleView {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Dom>> = TitleView;
+impl AddAnyAttr for TitleView {
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = TitleView;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Dom>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        _attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Dom>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        self
    }
 }

-impl RenderHtml<Dom> for TitleView {
+impl RenderHtml for TitleView {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
@@ -257,7 +256,7 @@ impl RenderHtml<Dom> for TitleView {

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        mut self,
-        _cursor: &Cursor<Dom>,
+        _cursor: &Cursor,
        _position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let el = self.el();
@@ -285,19 +284,19 @@ impl RenderHtml<Dom> for TitleView {
    }
 }

-impl Mountable<Dom> for TitleViewState {
+impl Mountable for TitleViewState {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {}

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        _parent: &<Dom as Renderer>::Element,
-        _marker: Option<&<Dom as Renderer>::Node>,
+        _parent: &leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Element,
+        _marker: Option<&leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        // <title> doesn't need to be mounted
        // TitleView::el() guarantees that there is a <title> in the <head>
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable<Dom>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        false
    }
 }
--- a/router/src/components.rs
+++ b/router/src/components.rs
@@ -24,11 +24,10 @@ use reactive_graph::{
 use std::{
    borrow::Cow,
    fmt::{Debug, Display},
-    marker::PhantomData,
    sync::Arc,
    time::Duration,
 };
-use tachys::{renderer::dom::Dom, view::any_view::AnyView};
+use tachys::view::any_view::AnyView;

 #[derive(Debug)]
 pub struct RouteChildren<Children>(Children);
@@ -211,7 +210,7 @@ pub fn Routes<Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback>(
    children: RouteChildren<Defs>,
 ) -> impl IntoView
 where
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<Dom> + Clone + Send + 'static,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + Clone + Send + 'static,
    FallbackFn: FnOnce() -> Fallback + Clone + Send + 'static,
    Fallback: IntoView + 'static,
 {
@@ -243,7 +242,6 @@ where
            current_url: current_url.clone(),
            base: base.clone(),
            fallback: fallback.clone(),
-            rndr: PhantomData,
            set_is_routing,
        }
    }
@@ -255,7 +253,7 @@ pub fn FlatRoutes<Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback>(
    children: RouteChildren<Defs>,
 ) -> impl IntoView
 where
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<Dom> + Clone + Send + 'static,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + Clone + Send + 'static,
    FallbackFn: FnOnce() -> Fallback + Clone + Send + 'static,
    Fallback: IntoView + 'static,
 {
@@ -301,9 +299,9 @@ pub fn Route<Segments, View>(
    path: Segments,
    view: View,
    #[prop(optional)] ssr: SsrMode,
-) -> NestedRoute<Segments, (), (), View, Dom>
+) -> NestedRoute<Segments, (), (), View>
 where
-    View: ChooseView<Dom>,
+    View: ChooseView,
 {
    NestedRoute::new(path, view).ssr_mode(ssr)
 }
@@ -314,9 +312,9 @@ pub fn ParentRoute<Segments, View, Children>(
    view: View,
    children: RouteChildren<Children>,
    #[prop(optional)] ssr: SsrMode,
-) -> NestedRoute<Segments, Children, (), View, Dom>
+) -> NestedRoute<Segments, Children, (), View>
 where
-    View: ChooseView<Dom>,
+    View: ChooseView,
 {
    let children = children.into_inner();
    NestedRoute::new(path, view).ssr_mode(ssr).child(children)
@@ -329,7 +327,7 @@ pub fn ProtectedRoute<Segments, ViewFn, View, C, PathFn, P>(
    condition: C,
    redirect_path: PathFn,
    #[prop(optional)] ssr: SsrMode,
-) -> NestedRoute<Segments, (), (), impl Fn() -> AnyView<Dom> + Send + Clone, Dom>
+) -> NestedRoute<Segments, (), (), impl Fn() -> AnyView + Send + Clone>
 where
    ViewFn: Fn() -> View + Send + Clone + 'static,
    View: IntoView + 'static,
@@ -372,13 +370,7 @@ pub fn ProtectedParentRoute<Segments, ViewFn, View, C, PathFn, P, Children>(
    redirect_path: PathFn,
    children: RouteChildren<Children>,
    #[prop(optional)] ssr: SsrMode,
-) -> NestedRoute<
-    Segments,
-    Children,
-    (),
-    impl Fn() -> AnyView<Dom> + Send + Clone,
-    Dom,
->
+) -> NestedRoute<Segments, Children, (), impl Fn() -> AnyView + Send + Clone>
 where
    ViewFn: Fn() -> View + Send + Clone + 'static,
    View: IntoView + 'static,
--- a/router/src/flat_router.rs
+++ b/router/src/flat_router.rs
@@ -21,7 +21,6 @@ use std::{cell::RefCell, iter, mem, rc::Rc};
 use tachys::{
    hydration::Cursor,
    reactive_graph::OwnedView,
-    renderer::Renderer,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{
        add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
@@ -29,23 +28,22 @@ use tachys::{
    },
 };

-pub(crate) struct FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R> {
+pub(crate) struct FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn> {
    pub current_url: ArcRwSignal<Url>,
    pub location: Option<Loc>,
-    pub routes: Routes<Defs, R>,
+    pub routes: Routes<Defs>,
    pub fallback: FalFn,
    pub outer_owner: Owner,
    pub set_is_routing: Option<SignalSetter<bool>>,
 }

-pub struct FlatRoutesViewState<Defs, Fal, R>
+pub struct FlatRoutesViewState<Defs, Fal>
 where
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<R> + 'static,
-    Fal: Render<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + 'static,
+    Fal: Render + 'static,
 {
    #[allow(clippy::type_complexity)]
-    view: <EitherOf3<(), Fal, <Defs::Match as MatchInterface<R>>::View> as Render<R>>::State,
+    view: <EitherOf3<(), Fal, OwnedView<<Defs::Match as MatchInterface>::View>> as Render>::State,
    id: Option<RouteMatchId>,
    owner: Owner,
    params: ArcRwSignal<ParamsMap>,
@@ -54,11 +52,10 @@ where
        matched: ArcRwSignal<String>
 }

-impl<Defs, Fal, R> Mountable<R> for FlatRoutesViewState<Defs, Fal, R>
+impl<Defs, Fal> Mountable for FlatRoutesViewState<Defs, Fal>
 where
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<R> + 'static,
-    Fal: Render<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + 'static,
+    Fal: Render + 'static,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.view.unmount();
@@ -66,26 +63,25 @@ where

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        self.view.mount(parent, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.view.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

-impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal, R> Render<R> for FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R>
+impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal> Render for FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn>
 where
    Loc: LocationProvider,
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<R> + 'static,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + 'static,
    FalFn: FnOnce() -> Fal + Send,
-    Fal: Render<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: Render + 'static,
 {
-    type State = Rc<RefCell<FlatRoutesViewState<Defs, Fal, R>>>;
+    type State = Rc<RefCell<FlatRoutesViewState<Defs, Fal>>>;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        let FlatRoutesView {
@@ -151,7 +147,7 @@ where
                            provide_context(params_memo);
                            provide_context(url);
                            provide_context(Matched(ArcMemo::from(matched)));
-                            view.choose().await
+                            OwnedView::new(view.choose().await)
                        }
                    })
                }));
@@ -296,7 +292,7 @@ where
                            provide_context(Matched(ArcMemo::from(
                                new_matched,
                            )));
-                            let view =
+                            let view = OwnedView::new(
                                if let Some(set_is_routing) = set_is_routing {
                                    set_is_routing.set(true);
                                    let value =
@@ -306,7 +302,8 @@ where
                                    value
                                } else {
                                    view.choose().await
-                                };
+                                },
+                            );

                            // only update the route if it's still the current path
                            // i.e., if we've navigated away before this has loaded, do nothing
@@ -332,41 +329,37 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal, R> AddAnyAttr<R>
-    for FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R>
+impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal> AddAnyAttr for FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn>
 where
    Loc: LocationProvider + Send,
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<R> + Send + 'static,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + Send + 'static,
    FalFn: FnOnce() -> Fal + Send,
-    Fal: RenderHtml<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: RenderHtml + 'static,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: leptos::attr::Attribute<R>> =
-        FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: leptos::attr::Attribute> =
+        FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: leptos::attr::Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: leptos::attr::Attribute>(
        self,
        _attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        todo!()
    }
 }

-impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal, R> FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R>
+impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal> FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn>
 where
    Loc: LocationProvider + Send,
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<R> + Send + 'static,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + Send + 'static,
    FalFn: FnOnce() -> Fal + Send,
-    Fal: RenderHtml<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: RenderHtml + 'static,
 {
    fn choose_ssr(
        self,
-    ) -> OwnedView<Either<Fal, <Defs::Match as MatchInterface<R>>::View>, R>
-    {
+    ) -> OwnedView<Either<Fal, <Defs::Match as MatchInterface>::View>> {
        let current_url = self.current_url.read_untracked();
        let new_match = self.routes.match_route(current_url.path());
        let owner = self.outer_owner.child();
@@ -411,21 +404,19 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal, R> RenderHtml<R>
-    for FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R>
+impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal> RenderHtml for FlatRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn>
 where
    Loc: LocationProvider + Send,
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<R> + Send + 'static,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + Send + 'static,
    FalFn: FnOnce() -> Fal + Send,
-    Fal: RenderHtml<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: RenderHtml + 'static,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = <Either<
        Fal,
-        <Defs::Match as MatchInterface<R>>::View,
-    > as RenderHtml<R>>::MIN_LENGTH;
+        <Defs::Match as MatchInterface>::View,
+    > as RenderHtml>::MIN_LENGTH;

    fn dry_resolve(&mut self) {}

@@ -509,7 +500,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        // this can be mostly the same as the build() implementation, but with hydrate()
@@ -582,7 +573,7 @@ where
                            provide_context(params_memo);
                            provide_context(url);
                            provide_context(Matched(ArcMemo::from(matched)));
-                            view.choose().await
+                            OwnedView::new(view.choose().await)
                        }
                    })
                }));
--- a/router/src/generate_route_list.rs
+++ b/router/src/generate_route_list.rs
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@ use std::{
    future::Future,
    mem,
 };
-use tachys::{renderer::Renderer, view::RenderHtml};
+use tachys::view::RenderHtml;

 #[derive(Clone, Debug, Default)]
 /// A route that this application can serve.
@@ -220,12 +220,9 @@ impl RouteList {
        static GENERATED: RefCell<Option<RouteList>> = const { RefCell::new(None) };
    }

-    pub fn generate<T, Rndr>(app: impl FnOnce() -> T) -> Option<Self>
+    pub fn generate<T>(app: impl FnOnce() -> T) -> Option<Self>
    where
-        T: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-        Rndr: Renderer,
-        Rndr::Node: Clone,
-        Rndr::Element: Clone,
+        T: RenderHtml,
    {
        Self::IS_GENERATING.set(true);
        // run the app once, but throw away the HTML
--- a/router/src/matching/choose_view.rs
+++ b/router/src/matching/choose_view.rs
@@ -1,14 +1,10 @@
 use either_of::*;
 use std::{future::Future, marker::PhantomData};
-use tachys::{
-    renderer::Renderer,
-    view::{any_view::AnyView, Render},
-};
+use tachys::view::{any_view::AnyView, Render};

-pub trait ChooseView<R>
+pub trait ChooseView
 where
    Self: Send + Clone + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
 {
    type Output;

@@ -17,11 +13,10 @@ where
    fn preload(&self) -> impl Future<Output = ()>;
 }

-impl<F, View, R> ChooseView<R> for F
+impl<F, View> ChooseView for F
 where
    F: Fn() -> View + Send + Clone + 'static,
-    View: Render<R> + Send,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    View: Render + Send,
 {
    type Output = View;

@@ -32,12 +27,11 @@ where
    async fn preload(&self) {}
 }

-impl<T, R> ChooseView<R> for Lazy<T>
+impl<T> ChooseView for Lazy<T>
 where
-    T: LazyRoute<R>,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    T: LazyRoute,
 {
-    type Output = AnyView<R>;
+    type Output = AnyView;

    async fn choose(self) -> Self::Output {
        T::data().view().await
@@ -48,13 +42,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-pub trait LazyRoute<R>: Send + 'static
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+pub trait LazyRoute: Send + 'static {
    fn data() -> Self;

-    fn view(self) -> impl Future<Output = AnyView<R>>;
+    fn view(self) -> impl Future<Output = AnyView>;
 }

 #[derive(Debug)]
@@ -82,10 +73,7 @@ impl<T> Default for Lazy<T> {
    }
 }

-impl<R> ChooseView<R> for ()
-where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
-{
+impl ChooseView for () {
    type Output = ();

    async fn choose(self) -> Self::Output {}
@@ -93,11 +81,10 @@ where
    async fn preload(&self) {}
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> ChooseView<Rndr> for Either<A, B>
+impl<A, B> ChooseView for Either<A, B>
 where
-    A: ChooseView<Rndr>,
-    B: ChooseView<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    A: ChooseView,
+    B: ChooseView,
 {
    type Output = Either<A::Output, B::Output>;

@@ -118,10 +105,9 @@ where

 macro_rules! tuples {
    ($either:ident => $($ty:ident),*) => {
-        impl<$($ty,)* Rndr> ChooseView<Rndr> for $either<$($ty,)*>
+        impl<$($ty,)*> ChooseView for $either<$($ty,)*>
        where
-            $($ty: ChooseView<Rndr>,)*
-            Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+            $($ty: ChooseView,)*
        {
            type Output = $either<$($ty::Output,)*>;

--- a/router/src/matching/mod.rs
+++ b/router/src/matching/mod.rs
@@ -9,21 +9,17 @@ mod vertical;
 use crate::{static_routes::RegenerationFn, Method, SsrMode};
 pub use horizontal::*;
 pub use nested::*;
-use std::{borrow::Cow, collections::HashSet, marker::PhantomData};
-use tachys::{
-    renderer::Renderer,
-    view::{Render, RenderHtml},
-};
+use std::{borrow::Cow, collections::HashSet};
+use tachys::view::{Render, RenderHtml};
 pub use vertical::*;

 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct Routes<Children, Rndr> {
+pub struct Routes<Children> {
    base: Option<Cow<'static, str>>,
    children: Children,
-    ty: PhantomData<Rndr>,
 }

-impl<Children, Rndr> Clone for Routes<Children, Rndr>
+impl<Children> Clone for Routes<Children>
 where
    Children: Clone,
 {
@@ -31,17 +27,15 @@ where
        Self {
            base: self.base.clone(),
            children: self.children.clone(),
-            ty: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<Children, Rndr> Routes<Children, Rndr> {
+impl<Children> Routes<Children> {
    pub fn new(children: Children) -> Self {
        Self {
            base: None,
            children,
-            ty: PhantomData,
        }
    }

@@ -52,15 +46,13 @@ impl<Children, Rndr> Routes<Children, Rndr> {
        Self {
            base: Some(base.into()),
            children,
-            ty: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<Children, Rndr> Routes<Children, Rndr>
+impl<Children> Routes<Children>
 where
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
-    Children: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr>,
+    Children: MatchNestedRoutes,
 {
    pub fn match_route(&self, path: &str) -> Option<Children::Match> {
        let path = match &self.base {
@@ -101,12 +93,9 @@ where
 #[derive(Debug, Copy, Clone, PartialEq, Eq, Hash)]
 pub struct RouteMatchId(pub(crate) u16);

-pub trait MatchInterface<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
-{
-    type Child: MatchInterface<R> + MatchParams + 'static;
-    type View: Render<R> + RenderHtml<R> + Send + 'static;
+pub trait MatchInterface {
+    type Child: MatchInterface + MatchParams + 'static;
+    type View: Render + RenderHtml + Send + 'static;

    fn as_id(&self) -> RouteMatchId;

@@ -114,7 +103,7 @@ where

    fn into_view_and_child(
        self,
-    ) -> (impl ChooseView<R, Output = Self::View>, Option<Self::Child>);
+    ) -> (impl ChooseView<Output = Self::View>, Option<Self::Child>);
 }

 pub trait MatchParams {
@@ -123,13 +112,10 @@ pub trait MatchParams {
    fn to_params(&self) -> Self::Params;
 }

-pub trait MatchNestedRoutes<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
-{
+pub trait MatchNestedRoutes {
    type Data;
    type View;
-    type Match: MatchInterface<R> + MatchParams;
+    type Match: MatchInterface + MatchParams;

    fn match_nested<'a>(
        &'a self,
@@ -157,12 +143,11 @@ mod tests {
        WildcardSegment,
    };
    use either_of::Either;
-    use tachys::renderer::dom::Dom;

    #[test]
    pub fn matches_single_root_route() {
        let routes =
-            Routes::<_, Dom>::new(NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment("/"), || ()));
+            Routes::<_>::new(NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment("/"), || ()));
        let matched = routes.match_route("/");
        assert!(matched.is_some());
        // this case seems like it should match, but implementing it interferes with
@@ -178,7 +163,7 @@ mod tests {

    #[test]
    pub fn matches_nested_route() {
-        let routes: Routes<_, Dom> =
+        let routes: Routes<_> =
            Routes::new(NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment(""), || "Home").child(
                NestedRoute::new(
                    (StaticSegment("author"), StaticSegment("contact")),
@@ -200,17 +185,17 @@ mod tests {
        );

        let matched = routes.match_route("/author/contact").unwrap();
-        assert_eq!(MatchInterface::<Dom>::as_matched(&matched), "");
-        let (_, child) = MatchInterface::<Dom>::into_view_and_child(matched);
+        assert_eq!(MatchInterface::as_matched(&matched), "");
+        let (_, child) = MatchInterface::into_view_and_child(matched);
        assert_eq!(
-            MatchInterface::<Dom>::as_matched(&child.unwrap()),
+            MatchInterface::as_matched(&child.unwrap()),
            "/author/contact"
        );
    }

    #[test]
    pub fn does_not_match_route_unless_full_param_matches() {
-        let routes = Routes::<_, Dom>::new((
+        let routes = Routes::<_>::new((
            NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment("/property-api"), || ()),
            NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment("/property"), || ()),
        ));
@@ -220,7 +205,7 @@ mod tests {

    #[test]
    pub fn does_not_match_incomplete_route() {
-        let routes: Routes<_, Dom> =
+        let routes: Routes<_> =
            Routes::new(NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment(""), || "Home").child(
                NestedRoute::new(
                    (StaticSegment("author"), StaticSegment("contact")),
@@ -233,7 +218,7 @@ mod tests {

    #[test]
    pub fn chooses_between_nested_routes() {
-        let routes: Routes<_, Dom> = Routes::new((
+        let routes: Routes<_> = Routes::new((
            NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment("/"), || ()).child((
                NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment(""), || ()),
                NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment("about"), || ()),
@@ -287,7 +272,7 @@ mod tests {

    #[test]
    pub fn arbitrary_nested_routes() {
-        let routes: Routes<_, Dom> = Routes::new_with_base(
+        let routes: Routes<_> = Routes::new_with_base(
            (
                NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment("/"), || ()).child((
                    NestedRoute::new(StaticSegment("/"), || ()),
--- a/router/src/matching/nested/mod.rs
+++ b/router/src/matching/nested/mod.rs
@@ -8,32 +8,27 @@ use either_of::Either;
 use std::{
    borrow::Cow,
    collections::HashSet,
-    marker::PhantomData,
    sync::atomic::{AtomicU16, Ordering},
 };
-use tachys::{
-    renderer::Renderer,
-    view::{Render, RenderHtml},
-};
+use tachys::view::{Render, RenderHtml};

 mod tuples;

 static ROUTE_ID: AtomicU16 = AtomicU16::new(1);

 #[derive(Debug, PartialEq, Eq)]
-pub struct NestedRoute<Segments, Children, Data, View, R> {
+pub struct NestedRoute<Segments, Children, Data, View> {
    id: u16,
    segments: Segments,
    children: Option<Children>,
    data: Data,
    view: View,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
    methods: HashSet<Method>,
    ssr_mode: SsrMode,
 }

-impl<Segments, Children, Data, View, R> Clone
-    for NestedRoute<Segments, Children, Data, View, R>
+impl<Segments, Children, Data, View> Clone
+    for NestedRoute<Segments, Children, Data, View>
 where
    Segments: Clone,
    Children: Clone,
@@ -47,18 +42,16 @@ where
            children: self.children.clone(),
            data: self.data.clone(),
            view: self.view.clone(),
-            rndr: PhantomData,
            methods: self.methods.clone(),
            ssr_mode: self.ssr_mode.clone(),
        }
    }
 }

-impl<Segments, View, R> NestedRoute<Segments, (), (), View, R> {
+impl<Segments, View> NestedRoute<Segments, (), (), View> {
    pub fn new(path: Segments, view: View) -> Self
    where
-        View: ChooseView<R>,
-        R: Renderer + 'static,
+        View: ChooseView,
    {
        Self {
            id: ROUTE_ID.fetch_add(1, Ordering::Relaxed),
@@ -66,24 +59,22 @@ impl<Segments, View, R> NestedRoute<Segments, (), (), View, R> {
            children: None,
            data: (),
            view,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
            methods: [Method::Get].into(),
            ssr_mode: Default::default(),
        }
    }
 }

-impl<Segments, Data, View, R> NestedRoute<Segments, (), Data, View, R> {
+impl<Segments, Data, View> NestedRoute<Segments, (), Data, View> {
    pub fn child<Children>(
        self,
        child: Children,
-    ) -> NestedRoute<Segments, Children, Data, View, R> {
+    ) -> NestedRoute<Segments, Children, Data, View> {
        let Self {
            id,
            segments,
            data,
            view,
-            rndr,
            ssr_mode,
            methods,
            ..
@@ -96,7 +87,6 @@ impl<Segments, Data, View, R> NestedRoute<Segments, (), Data, View, R> {
            view,
            ssr_mode,
            methods,
-            rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -146,13 +136,12 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<ParamsIter, Child, View, Rndr> MatchInterface<Rndr>
+impl<ParamsIter, Child, View> MatchInterface
    for NestedMatch<ParamsIter, Child, View>
 where
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
-    Child: MatchInterface<Rndr> + MatchParams + 'static,
-    View: ChooseView<Rndr>,
-    View::Output: Render<Rndr> + RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
+    Child: MatchInterface + MatchParams + 'static,
+    View: ChooseView,
+    View::Output: Render + RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
    type Child = Child;
    type View = View::Output;
@@ -167,28 +156,24 @@ where

    fn into_view_and_child(
        self,
-    ) -> (
-        impl ChooseView<Rndr, Output = Self::View>,
-        Option<Self::Child>,
-    ) {
+    ) -> (impl ChooseView<Output = Self::View>, Option<Self::Child>) {
        (self.view_fn, self.child)
    }
 }

-impl<Segments, Children, Data, View, Rndr> MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr>
-    for NestedRoute<Segments, Children, Data, View, Rndr>
+impl<Segments, Children, Data, View> MatchNestedRoutes
+    for NestedRoute<Segments, Children, Data, View>
 where
    Self: 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
    Segments: PossibleRouteMatch + std::fmt::Debug,
    <<Segments as PossibleRouteMatch>::ParamsIter as IntoIterator>::IntoIter: Clone,
-    Children: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr>,
-    <<<Children as MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr>>::Match as MatchParams>::Params as IntoIterator>::IntoIter: Clone,
+    Children: MatchNestedRoutes,
+    <<<Children as MatchNestedRoutes>::Match as MatchParams>::Params as IntoIterator>::IntoIter: Clone,
   Children::Match: MatchParams,
   Children: 'static,
   <Children::Match as MatchParams>::Params: Clone,
-    View: ChooseView<Rndr> + Clone,
-    View::Output: Render<Rndr> + RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
+    View: ChooseView + Clone,
+    View::Output: Render + RenderHtml + Send + 'static,
 {
    type Data = Data;
    type View = View::Output;
--- a/router/src/matching/nested/tuples.rs
+++ b/router/src/matching/nested/tuples.rs
@@ -3,7 +3,6 @@ use crate::{ChooseView, GeneratedRouteData, MatchParams};
 use core::iter;
 use either_of::*;
 use std::borrow::Cow;
-use tachys::renderer::Renderer;

 impl MatchParams for () {
    type Params = iter::Empty<(Cow<'static, str>, String)>;
@@ -13,10 +12,7 @@ impl MatchParams for () {
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr> MatchInterface<Rndr> for ()
-where
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
-{
+impl MatchInterface for () {
    type Child = ();
    type View = ();

@@ -30,18 +26,12 @@ where

    fn into_view_and_child(
        self,
-    ) -> (
-        impl ChooseView<Rndr, Output = Self::View>,
-        Option<Self::Child>,
-    ) {
+    ) -> (impl ChooseView<Output = Self::View>, Option<Self::Child>) {
        ((), None)
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr> MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> for ()
-where
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
-{
+impl MatchNestedRoutes for () {
    type Data = ();
    type View = ();
    type Match = ();
@@ -74,10 +64,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<A, Rndr> MatchInterface<Rndr> for (A,)
+impl<A> MatchInterface for (A,)
 where
-    A: MatchInterface<Rndr> + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    A: MatchInterface + 'static,
 {
    type Child = A::Child;
    type View = A::View;
@@ -92,18 +81,14 @@ where

    fn into_view_and_child(
        self,
-    ) -> (
-        impl ChooseView<Rndr, Output = Self::View>,
-        Option<Self::Child>,
-    ) {
+    ) -> (impl ChooseView<Output = Self::View>, Option<Self::Child>) {
        self.0.into_view_and_child()
    }
 }

-impl<A, Rndr> MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> for (A,)
+impl<A> MatchNestedRoutes for (A,)
 where
-    A: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> + 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    A: MatchNestedRoutes + 'static,
 {
    type Data = A::Data;
    type View = A::View;
@@ -141,11 +126,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> MatchInterface<Rndr> for Either<A, B>
+impl<A, B> MatchInterface for Either<A, B>
 where
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
-    A: MatchInterface<Rndr>,
-    B: MatchInterface<Rndr>,
+    A: MatchInterface,
+    B: MatchInterface,
 {
    type Child = Either<A::Child, B::Child>;
    type View = Either<A::View, B::View>;
@@ -166,10 +150,7 @@ where

    fn into_view_and_child(
        self,
-    ) -> (
-        impl ChooseView<Rndr, Output = Self::View>,
-        Option<Self::Child>,
-    ) {
+    ) -> (impl ChooseView<Output = Self::View>, Option<Self::Child>) {
        match self {
            Either::Left(i) => {
                let (view, child) = i.into_view_and_child();
@@ -183,11 +164,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> for (A, B)
+impl<A, B> MatchNestedRoutes for (A, B)
 where
-    A: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr>,
-    B: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    A: MatchNestedRoutes,
+    B: MatchNestedRoutes,
 {
    type Data = (A::Data, B::Data);
    type View = Either<A::View, B::View>;
@@ -251,10 +231,9 @@ macro_rules! tuples {
            }
        }

-        impl<Rndr, $($ty,)*> MatchInterface<Rndr> for $either <$($ty,)*>
+        impl<$($ty,)*> MatchInterface for $either <$($ty,)*>
        where
-            Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
-            $($ty: MatchInterface<Rndr> + 'static),*,
+            $($ty: MatchInterface + 'static),*,
        {
            type Child = $either<$($ty::Child,)*>;
            type View = $either<$($ty::View,)*>;
@@ -274,7 +253,7 @@ macro_rules! tuples {
            fn into_view_and_child(
                self,
            ) -> (
-                impl ChooseView<Rndr, Output = Self::View>,
+                impl ChooseView<Output = Self::View>,
                Option<Self::Child>,
            ) {
                match self {
@@ -286,10 +265,9 @@ macro_rules! tuples {
            }
        }

-        impl<Rndr, $($ty),*> MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> for ($($ty,)*)
+        impl<$($ty),*> MatchNestedRoutes for ($($ty,)*)
        where
-            Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
-			$($ty: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> + 'static),*,
+			$($ty: MatchNestedRoutes + 'static),*,
        {
            type Data = ($($ty::Data,)*);
            type View = $either<$($ty::View,)*>;
--- a/router/src/nested_router.rs
+++ b/router/src/nested_router.rs
@@ -23,9 +23,7 @@ use std::{
    cell::RefCell,
    fmt::Debug,
    future::Future,
-    iter,
-    marker::PhantomData,
-    mem,
+    iter, mem,
    pin::Pin,
    rc::Rc,
    sync::{Arc, Mutex},
@@ -33,7 +31,6 @@ use std::{
 use tachys::{
    hydration::Cursor,
    reactive_graph::{OwnedView, Suspend},
-    renderer::Renderer,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{
        add_attr::AddAnyAttr,
@@ -43,42 +40,38 @@ use tachys::{
    },
 };

-pub(crate) struct NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R> {
+pub(crate) struct NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn> {
    pub location: Option<Loc>,
-    pub routes: Routes<Defs, R>,
+    pub routes: Routes<Defs>,
    pub outer_owner: Owner,
    pub current_url: ArcRwSignal<Url>,
    pub base: Option<Oco<'static, str>>,
    pub fallback: FalFn,
    #[allow(unused)] // TODO
    pub set_is_routing: Option<SignalSetter<bool>>,
-    pub rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-pub struct NestedRouteViewState<Fal, R>
+pub struct NestedRouteViewState<Fal>
 where
-    Fal: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: Render,
 {
    path: String,
    current_url: ArcRwSignal<Url>,
-    outlets: Vec<RouteContext<R>>,
+    outlets: Vec<RouteContext>,
    // TODO loading fallback
    #[allow(clippy::type_complexity)]
-    view: Rc<RefCell<EitherOf3State<(), Fal, AnyView<R>, R>>>,
+    view: Rc<RefCell<EitherOf3State<(), Fal, AnyView>>>,
 }

-impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal, R> Render<R>
-    for NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R>
+impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal> Render for NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn>
 where
    Loc: LocationProvider,
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<R>,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes,
    FalFn: FnOnce() -> Fal,
-    Fal: Render<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: Render + 'static,
 {
    // TODO support fallback while loading
-    type State = NestedRouteViewState<Fal, R>;
+    type State = NestedRouteViewState<Fal>;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        let NestedRoutesView {
@@ -112,11 +105,7 @@ where
                    &outer_owner,
                );
                drop(url);
-                outer_owner.with(|| {
-                    EitherOf3::C(
-                        Outlet(OutletProps::builder().build()).into_any(),
-                    )
-                })
+                outer_owner.with(|| EitherOf3::C(Outlet().into_any()))
            }
        };

@@ -161,7 +150,7 @@ where

        match new_match {
            None => {
-                EitherOf3::<(), Fal, AnyView<R>>::B((self.fallback)())
+                EitherOf3::<(), Fal, AnyView>::B((self.fallback)())
                    .rebuild(&mut state.view.borrow_mut());
                state.outlets.clear();
            }
@@ -191,10 +180,8 @@ where
                // if it was on the fallback, show the view instead
                if matches!(state.view.borrow().state, EitherOf3::B(_)) {
                    self.outer_owner.with(|| {
-                        EitherOf3::<(), Fal, AnyView<R>>::C(
-                            Outlet(OutletProps::builder().build()).into_any(),
-                        )
-                        .rebuild(&mut *state.view.borrow_mut());
+                        EitherOf3::<(), Fal, AnyView>::C(Outlet().into_any())
+                            .rebuild(&mut *state.view.borrow_mut());
                    })
                }
            }
@@ -206,37 +193,33 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Loc, Defs, Fal, FalFn, R> AddAnyAttr<R>
-    for NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R>
+impl<Loc, Defs, Fal, FalFn> AddAnyAttr for NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn>
 where
    Loc: LocationProvider + Send,
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<R> + Send,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + Send,
    FalFn: FnOnce() -> Fal + Send,
-    Fal: RenderHtml<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: RenderHtml + 'static,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: leptos::attr::Attribute<R>> =
-        NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: leptos::attr::Attribute> =
+        NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: leptos::attr::Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: leptos::attr::Attribute>(
        self,
        _attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        todo!()
    }
 }

-impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal, R> RenderHtml<R>
-    for NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn, R>
+impl<Loc, Defs, FalFn, Fal> RenderHtml for NestedRoutesView<Loc, Defs, FalFn>
 where
    Loc: LocationProvider + Send,
-    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes<R> + Send,
+    Defs: MatchNestedRoutes + Send,
    FalFn: FnOnce() -> Fal + Send,
-    Fal: RenderHtml<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fal: RenderHtml + 'static,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -330,11 +313,7 @@ where
                        .now_or_never()
                        .expect("async routes not supported in SSR");

-                    outer_owner.with(|| {
-                        Either::Right(
-                            Outlet(OutletProps::builder().build()).into_any(),
-                        )
-                    })
+                    outer_owner.with(|| Either::Right(Outlet().into_any()))
                }
            };
            view.to_html_with_buf(buf, position, escape, mark_branches);
@@ -381,11 +360,7 @@ where
                    .now_or_never()
                    .expect("async routes not supported in SSR");

-                outer_owner.with(|| {
-                    Either::Right(
-                        Outlet(OutletProps::builder().build()).into_any(),
-                    )
-                })
+                outer_owner.with(|| Either::Right(Outlet().into_any()))
            }
        };
        view.to_html_async_with_buf::<OUT_OF_ORDER>(
@@ -398,7 +373,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let NestedRoutesView {
@@ -436,11 +411,7 @@ where
                    join_all(mem::take(&mut loaders))
                        .now_or_never()
                        .expect("async routes not supported in SSR");
-                    outer_owner.with(|| {
-                        EitherOf3::C(
-                            Outlet(OutletProps::builder().build()).into_any(),
-                        )
-                    })
+                    outer_owner.with(|| EitherOf3::C(Outlet().into_any()))
                }
            }
            .hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(cursor, position),
@@ -455,15 +426,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-type OutletViewFn<R> = Box<
-    dyn Fn() -> Suspend<Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyView<R>> + Send>>>
-        + Send,
+type OutletViewFn = Box<
+    dyn Fn() -> Suspend<Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyView> + Send>>> + Send,
 >;

-pub(crate) struct RouteContext<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+pub(crate) struct RouteContext {
    id: RouteMatchId,
    trigger: ArcTrigger,
    url: ArcRwSignal<Url>,
@@ -471,10 +438,10 @@ where
    owner: Owner,
    pub matched: ArcRwSignal<String>,
    base: Option<Oco<'static, str>>,
-    view_fn: Arc<Mutex<OutletViewFn<R>>>,
+    view_fn: Arc<Mutex<OutletViewFn>>,
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Debug for RouteContext<R> {
+impl Debug for RouteContext {
    fn fmt(&self, f: &mut std::fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
        f.debug_struct("RouteContext")
            .field("id", &self.id)
@@ -488,19 +455,13 @@ impl<R: Renderer> Debug for RouteContext<R> {
    }
 }

-impl<R> RouteContext<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
-{
+impl RouteContext {
    fn provide_contexts(&self) {
        provide_context(self.clone());
    }
 }

-impl<R> Clone for RouteContext<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl Clone for RouteContext {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        Self {
            url: self.url.clone(),
@@ -515,16 +476,13 @@ where
    }
 }

-trait AddNestedRoute<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+trait AddNestedRoute {
    fn build_nested_route(
        self,
        url: &Url,
        base: Option<Oco<'static, str>>,
        loaders: &mut Vec<Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = ArcTrigger>>>>,
-        outlets: &mut Vec<RouteContext<R>>,
+        outlets: &mut Vec<RouteContext>,
        parent: &Owner,
    );

@@ -534,22 +492,21 @@ where
        base: Option<Oco<'static, str>>,
        items: &mut usize,
        loaders: &mut Vec<Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = ArcTrigger>>>>,
-        outlets: &mut Vec<RouteContext<R>>,
+        outlets: &mut Vec<RouteContext>,
        parent: &Owner,
    );
 }

-impl<Match, R> AddNestedRoute<R> for Match
+impl<Match> AddNestedRoute for Match
 where
-    Match: MatchInterface<R> + MatchParams,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Match: MatchInterface + MatchParams,
 {
    fn build_nested_route(
        self,
        url: &Url,
        base: Option<Oco<'static, str>>,
        loaders: &mut Vec<Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = ArcTrigger>>>>,
-        outlets: &mut Vec<RouteContext<R>>,
+        outlets: &mut Vec<RouteContext>,
        parent: &Owner,
    ) {
        let orig_url = url;
@@ -650,7 +607,7 @@ where
                                OwnedView::new(view).into_any()
                            })
                                as Pin<
-                                    Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyView<R>> + Send>,
+                                    Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyView> + Send>,
                                >)
                        })
                    });
@@ -678,7 +635,7 @@ where
        base: Option<Oco<'static, str>>,
        items: &mut usize,
        loaders: &mut Vec<Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = ArcTrigger>>>>,
-        outlets: &mut Vec<RouteContext<R>>,
+        outlets: &mut Vec<RouteContext>,
        parent: &Owner,
    ) {
        let (parent_params, parent_matches): (Vec<_>, Vec<_>) = outlets
@@ -833,32 +790,33 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Fal, R> Mountable<R> for NestedRouteViewState<Fal, R>
+impl<Fal> Mountable for NestedRouteViewState<Fal>
 where
-    Fal: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    Fal: Render,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.view.unmount();
    }

-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &R::Element, marker: Option<&R::Node>) {
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
        self.view.mount(parent, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.view.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

 #[component]
-pub fn Outlet<R>(#[prop(optional)] rndr: PhantomData<R>) -> impl RenderHtml<R>
+pub fn Outlet() -> impl RenderHtml
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
 {
-    _ = rndr;
    move || {
-        let ctx = use_context::<RouteContext<R>>()
+        let ctx = use_context::<RouteContext>()
            .expect("<Outlet/> used without RouteContext being provided.");
        let RouteContext {
            trigger, view_fn, ..
--- a/router/src/reactive.rs
+++ b/router/src/reactive.rs
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ pub fn ReactiveRouter<Rndr, Loc, DefFn, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback>(
    mut location: Loc,
    routes: DefFn,
    fallback: FallbackFn,
-) -> impl RenderHtml<Rndr>
+) -> impl RenderHtml
 where
    DefFn: Fn() -> Defs + 'static,
    Defs: 'static,
@@ -35,10 +35,9 @@ where
    Rndr::Element: Clone,
    Rndr::Node: Clone,
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback + Clone + 'static,
-    Fallback: Render<Rndr> + 'static,
+    Fallback: Render + 'static,
    Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn>: FallbackOrView,
-    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output:
-        RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output: RenderHtml,
 {
    // create a reactive URL signal that will drive the router view
    let url = ArcRwSignal::new(location.try_to_url().unwrap_or_default());
@@ -75,7 +74,7 @@ where
    fal: PhantomData<Fallback>,
 }

-impl<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback> Render<Rndr>
+impl<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback> Render
    for ReactiveRouterInner<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback>
 where
    Loc: Location,
@@ -83,10 +82,9 @@ where
    Rndr::Element: Clone,
    Rndr::Node: Clone,
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback,
-    Fallback: Render<Rndr>,
+    Fallback: Render,
    Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn>: FallbackOrView,
-    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output:
-        Render<Rndr>,
+    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output: Render,
 {
    type State =
        ReactiveRouterInnerState<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback>;
@@ -112,7 +110,7 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback> RenderHtml<Rndr>
+impl<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback> RenderHtml
    for ReactiveRouterInner<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback>
 where
    Loc: Location,
@@ -120,18 +118,18 @@ where
    Rndr::Element: Clone,
    Rndr::Node: Clone,
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback,
-    Fallback: Render<Rndr>,
+    Fallback: Render,
    Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn>: FallbackOrView,
-    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output:
-        RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output: RenderHtml,
 {
-    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = <<Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output as RenderHtml<Rndr>>::MIN_LENGTH;
+    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = <<Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output as RenderHtml>::MIN_LENGTH;

    fn to_html_with_buf(
        self,
        buf: &mut String,
        position: &mut Position,
-        escape: bool, mark_branches: bool
+        escape: bool,
+        mark_branches: bool,
    ) {
        // if this is being run on the server for the first time, generating all possible routes
        if RouteList::is_generating() {
@@ -156,7 +154,8 @@ where
        self,
        buf: &mut StreamBuilder,
        position: &mut Position,
-        escape: bool, mark_branches: bool
+        escape: bool,
+        mark_branches: bool,
    ) where
        Self: Sized,
    {
@@ -168,7 +167,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let (prev_id, inner) = self.inner.fallback_or_view();
@@ -186,21 +185,20 @@ where
 struct ReactiveRouterInnerState<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback>
 where
    Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn>: FallbackOrView,
-    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output: Render<Rndr>,
+    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output: Render,
    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    owner: Owner,
    prev_id: &'static str,
-    inner: <<Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output as Render<Rndr>>::State,
+    inner: <<Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output as Render>::State,
    fal: PhantomData<Fallback>,
 }

-impl<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback> Mountable<Rndr>
+impl<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback> Mountable
    for ReactiveRouterInnerState<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn, Fallback>
 where
    Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn>: FallbackOrView,
-    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output:
-        Render<Rndr>,
+    <Router<Rndr, Loc, Defs, FallbackFn> as FallbackOrView>::Output: Render,
    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
@@ -209,13 +207,13 @@ where

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<Rndr as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<Rndr as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&leptos::tachys::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        self.inner.mount(parent, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Rndr>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.inner.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }
@@ -248,12 +246,12 @@ impl ReactiveMatchedRoute {
    }
 }

-pub fn reactive_route<ViewFn, View, Rndr>(
+pub fn reactive_route<ViewFn, View>(
    view_fn: ViewFn,
-) -> impl Fn(MatchedRoute) -> ReactiveRoute<ViewFn, View, Rndr>
+) -> impl Fn(MatchedRoute) -> ReactiveRoute<ViewFn, View>
 where
    ViewFn: Fn(&ReactiveMatchedRoute) -> View + Clone,
-    View: Render<Rndr>,
+    View: Render,
    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    move |matched| ReactiveRoute {
@@ -263,21 +261,21 @@ where
    }
 }

-pub struct ReactiveRoute<ViewFn, View, Rndr>
+pub struct ReactiveRoute<ViewFn, View>
 where
    ViewFn: Fn(&ReactiveMatchedRoute) -> View,
-    View: Render<Rndr>,
+    View: Render,
    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    view_fn: ViewFn,
    matched: MatchedRoute,
-    ty: PhantomData<Rndr>,
+    ty: PhantomData,
 }

-impl<ViewFn, View, Rndr> Render<Rndr> for ReactiveRoute<ViewFn, View, Rndr>
+impl<ViewFn, View> Render for ReactiveRoute<ViewFn, View>
 where
    ViewFn: Fn(&ReactiveMatchedRoute) -> View,
-    View: Render<Rndr>,
+    View: Render,
    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    type State = ReactiveRouteState<View::State>;
@@ -310,10 +308,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<ViewFn, View, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for ReactiveRoute<ViewFn, View, Rndr>
+impl<ViewFn, View> RenderHtml for ReactiveRoute<ViewFn, View>
 where
    ViewFn: Fn(&ReactiveMatchedRoute) -> View,
-    View: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+    View: RenderHtml,
    Rndr: Renderer,
    Rndr::Node: Clone,
    Rndr::Element: Clone,
@@ -324,7 +322,8 @@ where
        self,
        buf: &mut String,
        position: &mut Position,
-        escape: bool, mark_branches: bool
+        escape: bool,
+        mark_branches: bool,
    ) {
        let MatchedRoute {
            search_params,
@@ -345,7 +344,8 @@ where
        self,
        buf: &mut StreamBuilder,
        position: &mut Position,
-        escape: bool, mark_branches: bool
+        escape: bool,
+        mark_branches: bool,
    ) where
        Self: Sized,
    {
@@ -367,7 +367,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let MatchedRoute {
@@ -401,10 +401,9 @@ impl<State> Drop for ReactiveRouteState<State> {
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> Mountable<R> for ReactiveRouteState<T>
+impl<T> Mountable for ReactiveRouteState<T>
 where
-    T: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.view_state.unmount();
@@ -418,7 +417,7 @@ where
        self.view_state.mount(parent, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.view_state.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }
--- a/router/src/router.rs
+++ b/router/src/router.rs
@@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ use tachys::{
 pub struct Router<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn> {
    base: Option<Cow<'static, str>>,
    location: PhantomData<Loc>,
-    pub routes: Routes<Children, Rndr>,
+    pub routes: Routes<Children>,
    fallback: FallbackFn,
 }

@@ -60,7 +60,7 @@ where
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback,
 {
    pub fn new(
-        routes: Routes<Children, Rndr>,
+        routes: Routes<Children>,
        fallback: FallbackFn,
    ) -> Router<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn> {
        Self {
@@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ where

    pub fn new_with_base(
        base: impl Into<Cow<'static, str>>,
-        routes: Routes<Children, Rndr>,
+        routes: Routes<Children>,
        fallback: FallbackFn,
    ) -> Router<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn> {
        Self {
@@ -98,28 +98,28 @@ where

 pub struct 
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    pub params: ArcMemo<Params>,
-    pub outlet: Outlet<R>,
+    pub outlet: Outlet,
 }

-impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children> Render<Rndr>
+impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children> Render
    for Router<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn>
 where
    Loc: Location,
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback + 'static,
-    Fallback: Render<Rndr>,
-    Children: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> + 'static,
+    Fallback: Render,
+    Children: MatchNestedRoutes + 'static,
    Fallback::State: 'static,
    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
    Children::Match: std::fmt::Debug,
-    <Children::Match as MatchInterface<Rndr>>::Child: std::fmt::Debug,
+    <Children::Match as MatchInterface>::Child: std::fmt::Debug,
 {
    type State = RenderEffect<
        EitherState<
-            <NestedRouteView<Children::Match, Rndr> as Render<Rndr>>::State,
-            <Fallback as Render<Rndr>>::State,
+            <NestedRouteView<Children::Match> as Render>::State,
+            <Fallback as Render>::State,
            Rndr,
        >,
    >;
@@ -158,7 +158,7 @@ where
                        }
                    }
                } else {
-                    Either::<NestedRouteView<Children::Match, Rndr>, _>::Right(
+                    Either::<NestedRouteView<Children::Match>, _>::Right(
                        (self.fallback)(),
                    )
                    .rebuild(&mut prev);
@@ -180,21 +180,21 @@ where
    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {}
 }

-impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children> RenderHtml<Rndr>
+impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children> RenderHtml
    for Router<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn>
 where
    Loc: Location + Send,
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback + Send + 'static,
-    Fallback: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Children: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
-    Children::View: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    /*View: Render<Rndr> + IntoAny<Rndr> + 'static,
+    Fallback: RenderHtml,
+    Children: MatchNestedRoutes + Send + 'static,
+    Children::View: RenderHtml,
+    /*View: Render + IntoAny + 'static,
    View::State: 'static,*/
-    Fallback: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+    Fallback: RenderHtml,
    Fallback::State: 'static,
    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
    Children::Match: std::fmt::Debug,
-    <Children::Match as MatchInterface<Rndr>>::Child: std::fmt::Debug,
+    <Children::Match as MatchInterface>::Child: std::fmt::Debug,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -294,7 +294,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let location = Loc::new().unwrap(); // TODO
@@ -332,7 +332,7 @@ where
                        }
                    }
                } else {
-                    Either::<NestedRouteView<Children::Match, Rndr>, _>::Right(
+                    Either::<NestedRouteView<Children::Match>, _>::Right(
                        (self.fallback)(),
                    )
                    .rebuild(&mut prev);
@@ -359,20 +359,20 @@ where

 pub struct NestedRouteView<Matcher, R>
 where
-    Matcher: MatchInterface<R>,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Matcher: MatchInterface,
+    
 {
    id: RouteMatchId,
    owner: Owner,
    params: ArcRwSignal<Params>,
-    outlets: VecDeque<Outlet<R>>,
+    outlets: VecDeque<Outlet>,
    view: Matcher::View,
    ty: PhantomData<(Matcher, R)>,
 }

-impl<Matcher, Rndr> NestedRouteView<Matcher, Rndr>
+impl<Matcher> NestedRouteView<Matcher>
 where
-    Matcher: MatchInterface<Rndr> + MatchParams,
+    Matcher: MatchInterface + MatchParams,
    Matcher::Child: 'static,
    Matcher::View: 'static,
    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
@@ -414,7 +414,7 @@ where
    pub fn new_hydrate(
        outer_owner: &Owner,
        route_match: Matcher,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self {
        // keep track of all outlets, for diffing
@@ -459,26 +459,26 @@ where
    }
 }

-pub struct NestedRouteState<Matcher, Rndr>
+pub struct NestedRouteState<Matcher>
 where
-    Matcher: MatchInterface<Rndr>,
+    Matcher: MatchInterface,
    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
 {
    id: RouteMatchId,
    owner: Owner,
    params: ArcRwSignal<Params>,
-    view: <Matcher::View as Render<Rndr>>::State,
-    outlets: VecDeque<Outlet<Rndr>>,
+    view: <Matcher::View as Render>::State,
+    outlets: VecDeque<Outlet>,
 }

 fn get_inner_view<Match, R>(
-    outlets: &mut VecDeque<Outlet<R>>,
+    outlets: &mut VecDeque<Outlet>,
    parent: &Owner,
    route_match: Match,
-) -> Outlet<R>
+) -> Outlet
 where
-    Match: MatchInterface<R> + MatchParams,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Match: MatchInterface + MatchParams,
+    
 {
    let owner = parent.child();
    let id = route_match.as_id();
@@ -503,7 +503,7 @@ where
                    })
                    .into_any(),
            ))
-        }) as Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView<R>>>>
+        }) as Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView>>>
    }));
    let inner = Arc::new(RwLock::new(OutletStateInner {
        html_len: {
@@ -525,15 +525,15 @@ where
 }

 fn get_inner_view_hydrate<Match, R>(
-    outlets: &mut VecDeque<Outlet<R>>,
+    outlets: &mut VecDeque<Outlet>,
    parent: &Owner,
    route_match: Match,
-    cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+    cursor: &Cursor,
    position: &PositionState,
-) -> Outlet<R>
+) -> Outlet
 where
-    Match: MatchInterface<R> + MatchParams,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Match: MatchInterface + MatchParams,
+    
 {
    let owner = parent.child();
    let id = route_match.as_id();
@@ -558,7 +558,7 @@ where
                    })
                    .into_any(),
            ))
-        }) as Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView<R>>>>
+        }) as Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView>>>
    }));
    let inner = Arc::new(RwLock::new(OutletStateInner {
        html_len: Box::new({
@@ -585,18 +585,18 @@ where
 }

 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct Outlet<R>
+pub struct Outlet
 where
    R: Renderer + Send + 'static,
 {
    id: RouteMatchId,
    owner: Owner,
    params: ArcRwSignal<Params>,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
-    inner: OutletInner<R>,
+    rndr: PhantomData,
+    inner: OutletInner,
 }

-pub enum OutletInner<R> where R: Renderer + 'static {
+pub enum OutletInner where R: Renderer + 'static {
    Server {
        html_len: Box<dyn Fn() -> usize + Send + Sync>,
        view: Box<
@@ -608,30 +608,30 @@ pub enum OutletInner<R> where R: Renderer + 'static {
    html_len: Box<dyn Fn() -> usize + Send + Sync>,
    view: Arc<
        Lazy<
-            RwLock<Option<AnyView<R>>>,
-            Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView<R>>> + Send + Sync>,
+            RwLock<Option<AnyView>>,
+            Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView>> + Send + Sync>,
        >,
    >,
    state: Lazy<
-        SendWrapper<AnyViewState<R>>,
-        Box<dyn FnOnce() -> SendWrapper<AnyViewState<R>> + Send + Sync>,
+        SendWrapper<AnyViewState>,
+        Box<dyn FnOnce() -> SendWrapper<AnyViewState> + Send + Sync>,
    >,
    */

-impl<R: Renderer> Debug for OutletInner<R> {
+impl<R: Renderer> Debug for OutletInner {
    fn fmt(&self, f: &mut std::fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
        f.debug_struct("OutletInner").finish_non_exhaustive()
    }
 }

-impl<R> Default for OutletInner<R>
+impl Default for OutletInner
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    fn default() -> Self {
        let view =
            Arc::new(Lazy::new(Box::new(|| RwLock::new(Some(().into_any())))
-                as Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView<R>>>>));
+                as Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView>>>));
        Self {
            html_len: Box::new(|| 0),
            view,
@@ -640,9 +640,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> Clone for Outlet<R>
+impl Clone for Outlet
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        Self {
@@ -655,9 +655,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> Default for Outlet<R>
+impl Default for Outlet
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    fn default() -> Self {
        Self {
@@ -669,11 +669,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> Render<R> for Outlet<R>
+impl Render for Outlet
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
-    type State = Outlet<R>;
+    type State = Outlet;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        self
@@ -684,9 +684,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> RenderHtml<R> for Outlet<R>
+impl RenderHtml for Outlet
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -725,7 +725,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        todo!()
@@ -743,38 +743,38 @@ where
    }
 }

-/*pub struct OutletStateInner<R>
+/*pub struct OutletStateInner
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    html_len: Box<dyn Fn() -> usize + Send + Sync>,
    view: Arc<
        Lazy<
-            RwLock<Option<AnyView<R>>>,
-            Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView<R>>> + Send + Sync>,
+            RwLock<Option<AnyView>>,
+            Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView>> + Send + Sync>,
        >,
    >,
    state: Lazy<
-        SendWrapper<AnyViewState<R>>,
-        Box<dyn FnOnce() -> SendWrapper<AnyViewState<R>> + Send + Sync>,
+        SendWrapper<AnyViewState>,
+        Box<dyn FnOnce() -> SendWrapper<AnyViewState> + Send + Sync>,
    >,
 }


-impl<R: Renderer> Debug for OutletStateInner<R> {
+impl<R: Renderer> Debug for OutletStateInner {
    fn fmt(&self, f: &mut std::fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
        f.debug_struct("OutletStateInner").finish_non_exhaustive()
    }
 }

-impl<R> Default for OutletStateInner<R>
+impl Default for OutletStateInner
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    fn default() -> Self {
        let view =
            Arc::new(Lazy::new(Box::new(|| RwLock::new(Some(().into_any())))
-                as Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView<R>>>>));
+                as Box<dyn FnOnce() -> RwLock<Option<AnyView>>>));
        Self {
            html_len: Box::new(|| 0),
            view,
@@ -784,9 +784,9 @@ where
 }
 */

-impl<R> Mountable<R> for Outlet<R>
+impl Mountable for Outlet
 where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        todo!()
@@ -802,7 +802,7 @@ where
    }

    fn insert_before_this(&self, 
-        child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>,
+        child: &mut dyn Mountable,
    ) -> bool {
        /*self.inner
        .write()
@@ -818,8 +818,8 @@ fn rebuild_nested<Match, R>(
    prev: &mut NestedRouteState<Match, R>,
    new_match: Match,
 ) where
-    Match: MatchInterface<R> + MatchParams + std::fmt::Debug,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Match: MatchInterface + MatchParams + std::fmt::Debug,
+    
 {
    let mut items = 0;
    let NestedRouteState {
@@ -846,11 +846,11 @@ fn rebuild_nested<Match, R>(

 fn rebuild_inner<Match, R>(
    items: &mut usize,
-    outlets: &mut VecDeque<Outlet<R>>,
+    outlets: &mut VecDeque<Outlet>,
    route_match: Match,
 ) where
-    Match: MatchInterface<R> + MatchParams,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Match: MatchInterface + MatchParams,
+    
 {
    *items += 1;

@@ -910,11 +910,11 @@ fn rebuild_inner<Match, R>(
    }
 }

-impl<Matcher, R> Render<R> for NestedRouteView<Matcher, R>
+impl<Matcher, R> Render for NestedRouteView<Matcher, R>
 where
-    Matcher: MatchInterface<R>,
+    Matcher: MatchInterface,
    Matcher::View: Sized + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    type State = NestedRouteState<Matcher, R>;

@@ -953,11 +953,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Matcher, R> RenderHtml<R> for NestedRouteView<Matcher, R>
+impl<Matcher, R> RenderHtml for NestedRouteView<Matcher, R>
 where
-    Matcher: MatchInterface<R> + Send,
+    Matcher: MatchInterface + Send,
    Matcher::View: Sized + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -988,7 +988,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let NestedRouteView {
@@ -1009,10 +1009,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Matcher, R> Mountable<R> for NestedRouteState<Matcher, R>
+impl<Matcher, R> Mountable for NestedRouteState<Matcher, R>
 where
-    Matcher: MatchInterface<R>,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    Matcher: MatchInterface,
+    
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.view.unmount();
@@ -1023,43 +1023,43 @@ where
    }

    fn insert_before_this(&self, 
-        child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>,
+        child: &mut dyn Mountable,
    ) -> bool {
        self.view.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children, View> AddAnyAttr<Rndr>
+impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children, View> AddAnyAttr
    for Router<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn>
 where
    Loc: Location,
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback,
-    Fallback: Render<Rndr>,
-    Children: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr>,
-     <<Children as MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr>>::Match as MatchInterface<
+    Fallback: Render,
+    Children: MatchNestedRoutes,
+     <<Children as MatchNestedRoutes>::Match as MatchInterface<
        Rndr,
    >>::View: ChooseView<Rndr, Output = View>,
    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
-    Router<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+    Router<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn>: RenderHtml,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = Self;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = Self;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        self
    }

-    fn add_any_attr_by_ref<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr_by_ref<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: &NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        self
    }
@@ -1069,7 +1069,7 @@ where
 pub struct FlatRouter<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn> {
    base: Option<Cow<'static, str>>,
    location: PhantomData<Loc>,
-    pub routes: Routes<Children, Rndr>,
+    pub routes: Routes<Children>,
    fallback: FallbackFn,
 }

@@ -1081,7 +1081,7 @@ where
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback,
 {
    pub fn new(
-        routes: Routes<Children, Rndr>,
+        routes: Routes<Children>,
        fallback: FallbackFn,
    ) -> FlatRouter<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn> {
        Self {
@@ -1094,7 +1094,7 @@ where

    pub fn new_with_base(
        base: impl Into<Cow<'static, str>>,
-        routes: Routes<Children, Rndr>,
+        routes: Routes<Children>,
        fallback: FallbackFn,
    ) -> FlatRouter<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn> {
        Self {
@@ -1105,23 +1105,23 @@ where
        }
    }
 }
-impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children> Render<Rndr>
+impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children> Render
    for FlatRouter<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn>
 where
    Loc: Location,
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback + 'static,
-    Fallback: Render<Rndr>,
-    Children: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> + 'static,
+    Fallback: Render,
+    Children: MatchNestedRoutes + 'static,
    Fallback::State: 'static,
    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
 {
    type State =
        RenderEffect<
            EitherState<
-                <<Children::Match as MatchInterface<Rndr>>::View as Render<
+                <<Children::Match as MatchInterface>::View as Render<
                    Rndr,
                >>::State,
-                <Fallback as Render<Rndr>>::State,
+                <Fallback as Render>::State,
                Rndr,
            >,
        >;
@@ -1170,7 +1170,7 @@ where
                    let view = outer_owner.with(|| view.choose());
                    Either::Left::<_, Fallback>(view).rebuild(&mut prev);
                } else {
-                    Either::<<Children::Match as MatchInterface<Rndr>>::View, _>::Right((self.fallback)()).rebuild(&mut prev);
+                    Either::<<Children::Match as MatchInterface>::View, _>::Right((self.fallback)()).rebuild(&mut prev);
                }
                prev
            } else {
@@ -1209,20 +1209,20 @@ where
    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {}
 }

-impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children> RenderHtml<Rndr>
+impl<Rndr, Loc, FallbackFn, Fallback, Children> RenderHtml
    for FlatRouter<Rndr, Loc, Children, FallbackFn>
 where
    Loc: Location + Send,
    FallbackFn: Fn() -> Fallback + Send + 'static,
-    Fallback: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Children: MatchNestedRoutes<Rndr> + Send + 'static,
+    Fallback: RenderHtml,
+    Children: MatchNestedRoutes + Send + 'static,
    Fallback::State: 'static,
    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize =
-        <Children::Match as MatchInterface<Rndr>>::View::MIN_LENGTH;
+        <Children::Match as MatchInterface>::View::MIN_LENGTH;

    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
        self
@@ -1357,7 +1357,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let location = Loc::new().unwrap(); // TODO
@@ -1405,7 +1405,7 @@ where
                    let view = outer_owner.with(|| view.choose());
                    Either::Left::<_, Fallback>(view).rebuild(&mut prev);
                } else {
-                    Either::<<Children::Match as MatchInterface<Rndr>>::View, _>::Right((self.fallback)()).rebuild(&mut prev);
+                    Either::<<Children::Match as MatchInterface>::View, _>::Right((self.fallback)()).rebuild(&mut prev);
                }
                prev
            } else {
--- a/tachys/src/html/attribute/any_attribute.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/attribute/any_attribute.rs
@@ -1,78 +1,68 @@
 use super::{Attribute, NextAttribute};
-use crate::renderer::Renderer;
 use std::{
    any::{Any, TypeId},
    fmt::Debug,
-    marker::PhantomData,
 };
 #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
 use std::{future::Future, pin::Pin};

 /// A type-erased container for any [`Attribute`].
-pub struct AnyAttribute<R: Renderer> {
+pub struct AnyAttribute {
    type_id: TypeId,
    html_len: usize,
    value: Box<dyn Any + Send>,
    #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
    to_html:
        fn(Box<dyn Any>, &mut String, &mut String, &mut String, &mut String),
-    build: fn(Box<dyn Any>, el: &R::Element) -> AnyAttributeState<R>,
-    rebuild: fn(TypeId, Box<dyn Any>, &mut AnyAttributeState<R>),
+    build: fn(
+        Box<dyn Any>,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> AnyAttributeState,
+    rebuild: fn(TypeId, Box<dyn Any>, &mut AnyAttributeState),
    #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
-    hydrate_from_server: fn(Box<dyn Any>, &R::Element) -> AnyAttributeState<R>,
+    hydrate_from_server:
+        fn(Box<dyn Any>, &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> AnyAttributeState,
    #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
    hydrate_from_template:
-        fn(Box<dyn Any>, &R::Element) -> AnyAttributeState<R>,
+        fn(Box<dyn Any>, &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> AnyAttributeState,
    #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
    #[allow(clippy::type_complexity)]
-    resolve: fn(
-        Box<dyn Any>,
-    ) -> Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyAttribute<R>> + Send>>,
+    resolve:
+        fn(Box<dyn Any>) -> Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyAttribute> + Send>>,
    #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
    dry_resolve: fn(&mut Box<dyn Any + Send>),
 }

-impl<R> Debug for AnyAttribute<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl Debug for AnyAttribute {
    fn fmt(&self, f: &mut std::fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
        f.debug_struct("AnyAttribute").finish_non_exhaustive()
    }
 }

 /// View state for [`AnyAttribute`].
-pub struct AnyAttributeState<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+pub struct AnyAttributeState {
    type_id: TypeId,
    state: Box<dyn Any>,
-    el: R::Element,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
+    el: crate::renderer::types::Element,
 }

 /// Converts an [`Attribute`] into [`AnyAttribute`].
-pub trait IntoAnyAttribute<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+pub trait IntoAnyAttribute {
    /// Wraps the given attribute.
-    fn into_any_attr(self) -> AnyAttribute<R>;
+    fn into_any_attr(self) -> AnyAttribute;
 }

-impl<T, R> IntoAnyAttribute<R> for T
+impl<T> IntoAnyAttribute for T
 where
    Self: Send,
-    T: Attribute<R> + 'static,
+    T: Attribute + 'static,
    T::State: 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
-    R::Element: Clone,
+    crate::renderer::types::Element: Clone,
 {
    // inlining allows the compiler to remove the unused functions
    // i.e., doesn't ship HTML-generating code that isn't used
    #[inline(always)]
-    fn into_any_attr(self) -> AnyAttribute<R> {
+    fn into_any_attr(self) -> AnyAttribute {
        let html_len = self.html_len();

        let value = Box::new(self) as Box<dyn Any + Send>;
@@ -88,7 +78,8 @@ where
                .expect("AnyAttribute::to_html could not be downcast");
            value.to_html(buf, class, style, inner_html);
        };
-        let build = |value: Box<dyn Any>, el: &R::Element| {
+        let build = |value: Box<dyn Any>,
+                     el: &crate::renderer::types::Element| {
            let value = value
                .downcast::<T>()
                .expect("AnyAttribute::build couldn't downcast");
@@ -98,40 +89,39 @@ where
                type_id: TypeId::of::<T>(),
                state,
                el: el.clone(),
-                rndr: PhantomData,
            }
        };
        #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
-        let hydrate_from_server = |value: Box<dyn Any>, el: &R::Element| {
-            let value = value
-                .downcast::<T>()
-                .expect("AnyAttribute::hydrate_from_server couldn't downcast");
-            let state = Box::new(value.hydrate::<true>(el));
+        let hydrate_from_server =
+            |value: Box<dyn Any>, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element| {
+                let value = value.downcast::<T>().expect(
+                    "AnyAttribute::hydrate_from_server couldn't downcast",
+                );
+                let state = Box::new(value.hydrate::<true>(el));

-            AnyAttributeState {
-                type_id: TypeId::of::<T>(),
-                state,
-                el: el.clone(),
-                rndr: PhantomData,
-            }
-        };
+                AnyAttributeState {
+                    type_id: TypeId::of::<T>(),
+                    state,
+                    el: el.clone(),
+                }
+            };
        #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
-        let hydrate_from_template = |value: Box<dyn Any>, el: &R::Element| {
-            let value = value
-                .downcast::<T>()
-                .expect("AnyAttribute::hydrate_from_server couldn't downcast");
-            let state = Box::new(value.hydrate::<true>(el));
+        let hydrate_from_template =
+            |value: Box<dyn Any>, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element| {
+                let value = value.downcast::<T>().expect(
+                    "AnyAttribute::hydrate_from_server couldn't downcast",
+                );
+                let state = Box::new(value.hydrate::<true>(el));

-            AnyAttributeState {
-                type_id: TypeId::of::<T>(),
-                state,
-                el: el.clone(),
-                rndr: PhantomData,
-            }
-        };
+                AnyAttributeState {
+                    type_id: TypeId::of::<T>(),
+                    state,
+                    el: el.clone(),
+                }
+            };
        let rebuild = |new_type_id: TypeId,
                       value: Box<dyn Any>,
-                       state: &mut AnyAttributeState<R>| {
+                       state: &mut AnyAttributeState| {
            let value = value
                .downcast::<T>()
                .expect("AnyAttribute::rebuild couldn't downcast value");
@@ -160,7 +150,7 @@ where
                .downcast::<T>()
                .expect("AnyView::resolve could not be downcast");
            Box::pin(async move { value.resolve().await.into_any_attr() })
-                as Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyAttribute<R>> + Send>>
+                as Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyAttribute> + Send>>
        };
        AnyAttribute {
            type_id: TypeId::of::<T>(),
@@ -182,13 +172,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> NextAttribute<R> for AnyAttribute<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+impl NextAttribute for AnyAttribute {
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -196,14 +183,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> Attribute<R> for AnyAttribute<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl Attribute for AnyAttribute {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;

-    type AsyncOutput = AnyAttribute<R>;
-    type State = AnyAttributeState<R>;
+    type AsyncOutput = AnyAttribute;
+    type State = AnyAttributeState;
    type Cloneable = ();
    type CloneableOwned = ();

@@ -232,7 +216,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
        if FROM_SERVER {
@@ -250,7 +234,7 @@ where
        }
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        (self.build)(self.value, el)
    }

--- a/tachys/src/html/attribute/aria.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/attribute/aria.rs
@@ -1,24 +1,23 @@
 use crate::{
    html::{
        attribute::{Attr, *},
-        element::{CreateElement, ElementType, HtmlElement},
+        element::{ElementType, HtmlElement},
    },
+    renderer::Rndr,
    view::{add_attr::AddAnyAttr, RenderHtml},
 };

 /// Applies ARIA attributes to an HTML element.
 pub trait AriaAttributes<Rndr, V>
 where
-    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-    V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
    /// Identifies the currently active descendant of a composite widget.
    fn aria_activedescendant(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaActivedescendant, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaActivedescendant, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_activedescendant(value))
    }

@@ -26,7 +25,7 @@ where
    fn aria_atomic(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaAtomic, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaAtomic, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_atomic(value))
    }

@@ -34,8 +33,7 @@ where
    fn aria_autocomplete(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaAutocomplete, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaAutocomplete, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_autocomplete(value))
    }

@@ -43,7 +41,7 @@ where
    fn aria_busy(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaBusy, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaBusy, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_busy(value))
    }

@@ -51,7 +49,7 @@ where
    fn aria_checked(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaChecked, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaChecked, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_checked(value))
    }

@@ -59,7 +57,7 @@ where
    fn aria_colcount(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaColcount, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaColcount, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_colcount(value))
    }

@@ -67,7 +65,7 @@ where
    fn aria_colindex(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaColindex, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaColindex, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_colindex(value))
    }

@@ -75,7 +73,7 @@ where
    fn aria_colspan(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaColspan, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaColspan, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_colspan(value))
    }

@@ -83,7 +81,7 @@ where
    fn aria_controls(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaControls, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaControls, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_controls(value))
    }

@@ -91,7 +89,7 @@ where
    fn aria_current(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaCurrent, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaCurrent, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_current(value))
    }

@@ -99,8 +97,7 @@ where
    fn aria_describedby(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaDescribedby, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaDescribedby, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_describedby(value))
    }

@@ -108,8 +105,7 @@ where
    fn aria_description(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaDescription, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaDescription, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_description(value))
    }

@@ -117,7 +113,7 @@ where
    fn aria_details(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaDetails, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaDetails, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_details(value))
    }

@@ -125,7 +121,7 @@ where
    fn aria_disabled(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaDisabled, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaDisabled, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_disabled(value))
    }

@@ -133,7 +129,7 @@ where
    fn aria_dropeffect(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaDropeffect, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaDropeffect, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_dropeffect(value))
    }

@@ -141,8 +137,7 @@ where
    fn aria_errormessage(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaErrormessage, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaErrormessage, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_errormessage(value))
    }

@@ -150,7 +145,7 @@ where
    fn aria_expanded(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaExpanded, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaExpanded, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_expanded(value))
    }

@@ -158,7 +153,7 @@ where
    fn aria_flowto(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaFlowto, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaFlowto, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_flowto(value))
    }

@@ -166,7 +161,7 @@ where
    fn aria_grabbed(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaGrabbed, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaGrabbed, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_grabbed(value))
    }

@@ -174,7 +169,7 @@ where
    fn aria_haspopup(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaHaspopup, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaHaspopup, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_haspopup(value))
    }

@@ -182,7 +177,7 @@ where
    fn aria_hidden(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaHidden, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaHidden, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_hidden(value))
    }

@@ -190,7 +185,7 @@ where
    fn aria_invalid(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaInvalid, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaInvalid, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_invalid(value))
    }

@@ -198,8 +193,7 @@ where
    fn aria_keyshortcuts(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaKeyshortcuts, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaKeyshortcuts, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_keyshortcuts(value))
    }

@@ -207,7 +201,7 @@ where
    fn aria_label(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaLabel, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaLabel, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_label(value))
    }

@@ -215,7 +209,7 @@ where
    fn aria_labelledby(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaLabelledby, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaLabelledby, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_labelledby(value))
    }

@@ -223,7 +217,7 @@ where
    fn aria_live(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaLive, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaLive, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_live(value))
    }

@@ -231,7 +225,7 @@ where
    fn aria_modal(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaModal, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaModal, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_modal(value))
    }

@@ -239,7 +233,7 @@ where
    fn aria_multiline(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaMultiline, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaMultiline, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_multiline(value))
    }

@@ -247,8 +241,7 @@ where
    fn aria_multiselectable(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaMultiselectable, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaMultiselectable, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_multiselectable(value))
    }

@@ -256,8 +249,7 @@ where
    fn aria_orientation(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaOrientation, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaOrientation, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_orientation(value))
    }

@@ -265,7 +257,7 @@ where
    fn aria_owns(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaOwns, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaOwns, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_owns(value))
    }

@@ -273,8 +265,7 @@ where
    fn aria_placeholder(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaPlaceholder, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaPlaceholder, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_placeholder(value))
    }

@@ -282,7 +273,7 @@ where
    fn aria_posinset(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaPosinset, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaPosinset, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_posinset(value))
    }

@@ -290,7 +281,7 @@ where
    fn aria_pressed(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaPressed, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaPressed, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_pressed(value))
    }

@@ -298,7 +289,7 @@ where
    fn aria_readonly(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaReadonly, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaReadonly, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_readonly(value))
    }

@@ -306,7 +297,7 @@ where
    fn aria_relevant(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaRelevant, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaRelevant, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_relevant(value))
    }

@@ -314,7 +305,7 @@ where
    fn aria_required(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaRequired, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaRequired, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_required(value))
    }

@@ -322,8 +313,7 @@ where
    fn aria_roledescription(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaRoledescription, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaRoledescription, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_roledescription(value))
    }

@@ -331,7 +321,7 @@ where
    fn aria_rowcount(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaRowcount, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaRowcount, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_rowcount(value))
    }

@@ -339,7 +329,7 @@ where
    fn aria_rowindex(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaRowindex, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaRowindex, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_rowindex(value))
    }

@@ -347,7 +337,7 @@ where
    fn aria_rowspan(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaRowspan, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaRowspan, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_rowspan(value))
    }

@@ -355,7 +345,7 @@ where
    fn aria_selected(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaSelected, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaSelected, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_selected(value))
    }

@@ -363,7 +353,7 @@ where
    fn aria_setsize(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaSetsize, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaSetsize, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_setsize(value))
    }

@@ -371,7 +361,7 @@ where
    fn aria_sort(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaSort, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaSort, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_sort(value))
    }

@@ -379,7 +369,7 @@ where
    fn aria_valuemax(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaValuemax, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaValuemax, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_valuemax(value))
    }

@@ -387,7 +377,7 @@ where
    fn aria_valuemin(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaValuemin, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaValuemin, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_valuemin(value))
    }

@@ -395,7 +385,7 @@ where
    fn aria_valuenow(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaValuenow, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaValuenow, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_valuenow(value))
    }

@@ -403,18 +393,16 @@ where
    fn aria_valuetext(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<AriaValuetext, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<AriaValuetext, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(aria_valuetext(value))
    }
 }

-impl<El, At, Ch, Rndr, V> AriaAttributes<Rndr, V>
-    for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<El, At, Ch, V> AriaAttributes<Rndr, V> for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch>
 where
-    El: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
-    V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    El: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
 }
--- a/tachys/src/html/attribute/custom.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/attribute/custom.rs
@@ -1,65 +1,54 @@
 use super::NextAttribute;
 use crate::{
    html::attribute::{Attribute, AttributeValue},
-    renderer::DomRenderer,
    view::{add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Position, ToTemplate},
 };
-use std::{borrow::Cow, marker::PhantomData, sync::Arc};
+use std::{borrow::Cow, sync::Arc};

 /// Adds a custom attribute with any key-value combintion.
 #[inline(always)]
-pub fn custom_attribute<K, V, R>(key: K, value: V) -> CustomAttr<K, V, R>
+pub fn custom_attribute<K, V>(key: K, value: V) -> CustomAttr<K, V>
 where
    K: CustomAttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
-    CustomAttr {
-        key,
-        value,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
-    }
+    CustomAttr { key, value }
 }

 /// A custom attribute with any key-value combination.
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct CustomAttr<K, V, R>
+pub struct CustomAttr<K, V>
 where
    K: CustomAttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
    key: K,
    value: V,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<K, V, R> Clone for CustomAttr<K, V, R>
+impl<K, V> Clone for CustomAttr<K, V>
 where
    K: CustomAttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R> + Clone,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: AttributeValue + Clone,
 {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        Self {
            key: self.key.clone(),
            value: self.value.clone(),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<K, V, R> Attribute<R> for CustomAttr<K, V, R>
+impl<K, V> Attribute for CustomAttr<K, V>
 where
    K: CustomAttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
-    type AsyncOutput = CustomAttr<K, V::AsyncOutput, R>;
+    type AsyncOutput = CustomAttr<K, V::AsyncOutput>;
    type State = V::State;
-    type Cloneable = CustomAttr<K, V::Cloneable, R>;
-    type CloneableOwned = CustomAttr<K, V::CloneableOwned, R>;
+    type Cloneable = CustomAttr<K, V::Cloneable>;
+    type CloneableOwned = CustomAttr<K, V::CloneableOwned>;

    fn html_len(&self) -> usize {
        self.key.as_ref().len() + 3 + self.value.html_len()
@@ -75,7 +64,10 @@ where
        self.value.to_html(self.key.as_ref(), buf);
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        if !K::KEY.is_empty() {
            self.value.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(self.key.as_ref(), el)
        } else {
@@ -83,7 +75,7 @@ where
        }
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        self.value.build(el, self.key.as_ref())
    }

@@ -95,7 +87,6 @@ where
        CustomAttr {
            key: self.key,
            value: self.value.into_cloneable(),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -103,7 +94,6 @@ where
        CustomAttr {
            key: self.key,
            value: self.value.into_cloneable_owned(),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -115,20 +105,18 @@ where
        CustomAttr {
            key: self.key,
            value: self.value.resolve().await,
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<K, V, R> NextAttribute<R> for CustomAttr<K, V, R>
+impl<K, V> NextAttribute for CustomAttr<K, V>
 where
    K: CustomAttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -136,11 +124,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<K, V, R> ToTemplate for CustomAttr<K, V, R>
+impl<K, V> ToTemplate for CustomAttr<K, V>
 where
    K: CustomAttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
    fn to_template(
        buf: &mut String,
@@ -186,28 +173,27 @@ impl<const K: &'static str> CustomAttributeKey
 }

 /// Adds a custom attribute to an element.
-pub trait CustomAttribute<K, V, Rndr>
+pub trait CustomAttribute<K, V>
 where
    K: CustomAttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
-    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
+    V: AttributeValue,
+
+    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr,
 {
    /// Adds an HTML attribute by key and value.
    fn attr(
        self,
        key: K,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<CustomAttr<K, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<CustomAttr<K, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(custom_attribute(key, value))
    }
 }

-impl<T, K, V, Rndr> CustomAttribute<K, V, Rndr> for T
+impl<T, K, V> CustomAttribute<K, V> for T
 where
-    T: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
+    T: AddAnyAttr,
    K: CustomAttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
 }
--- a/tachys/src/html/attribute/global.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/attribute/global.rs
@@ -3,22 +3,20 @@ use crate::{
    html::{
        attribute::*,
        class::{class, Class, IntoClass},
-        element::{CreateElement, ElementType, HasElementType, HtmlElement},
+        element::{ElementType, HasElementType, HtmlElement},
        event::{on, on_target, EventDescriptor, On, Targeted},
        property::{prop, IntoProperty, Property},
        style::{style, IntoStyle, Style},
    },
    prelude::RenderHtml,
-    renderer::DomRenderer,
    view::add_attr::AddAnyAttr,
 };
 use core::convert::From;

 /// Adds an attribute that modifies the `class`.
-pub trait ClassAttribute<C, Rndr>
+pub trait ClassAttribute<C>
 where
-    C: IntoClass<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
+    C: IntoClass,
 {
    /// The type of the element with the new attribute added.
    type Output;
@@ -27,16 +25,14 @@ where
    fn class(self, value: C) -> Self::Output;
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch, C, Rndr> ClassAttribute<C, Rndr>
-    for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch, C> ClassAttribute<C> for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
-    C: IntoClass<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
+    E: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
+    C: IntoClass,
 {
-    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Class<C, Rndr>>;
+    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Class<C>>;

    fn class(self, value: C) -> Self::Output {
        self.add_any_attr(class(value))
@@ -44,10 +40,9 @@ where
 }

 /// Adds an attribute that modifies the DOM properties.
-pub trait PropAttribute<K, P, Rndr>
+pub trait PropAttribute<K, P>
 where
-    P: IntoProperty<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
+    P: IntoProperty,
 {
    /// The type of the element with the new attribute added.
    type Output;
@@ -56,17 +51,15 @@ where
    fn prop(self, key: K, value: P) -> Self::Output;
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch, K, P, Rndr> PropAttribute<K, P, Rndr>
-    for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch, K, P> PropAttribute<K, P> for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
+    E: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
    K: AsRef<str> + Send,
-    P: IntoProperty<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
+    P: IntoProperty,
 {
-    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Property<K, P, Rndr>>;
+    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Property<K, P>>;

    fn prop(self, key: K, value: P) -> Self::Output {
        self.add_any_attr(prop(key, value))
@@ -74,10 +67,9 @@ where
 }

 /// Adds an attribute that modifies the CSS styles.
-pub trait StyleAttribute<S, Rndr>
+pub trait StyleAttribute<S>
 where
-    S: IntoStyle<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
+    S: IntoStyle,
 {
    /// The type of the element with the new attribute added.
    type Output;
@@ -86,16 +78,14 @@ where
    fn style(self, value: S) -> Self::Output;
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch, S, Rndr> StyleAttribute<S, Rndr>
-    for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch, S> StyleAttribute<S> for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
-    S: IntoStyle<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
+    E: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
+    S: IntoStyle,
 {
-    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Style<S, Rndr>>;
+    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Style<S>>;

    fn style(self, value: S) -> Self::Output {
        self.add_any_attr(style(value))
@@ -103,7 +93,7 @@ where
 }

 /// Adds an event listener to an element definition.
-pub trait OnAttribute<E, F, Rndr> {
+pub trait OnAttribute<E, F> {
    /// The type of the element with the event listener added.
    type Output;

@@ -111,19 +101,17 @@ pub trait OnAttribute<E, F, Rndr> {
    fn on(self, event: E, cb: F) -> Self::Output;
 }

-impl<El, At, Ch, E, F, Rndr> OnAttribute<E, F, Rndr>
-    for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<El, At, Ch, E, F> OnAttribute<E, F> for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch>
 where
-    El: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
+    El: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
    E: EventDescriptor + Send + 'static,
    E::EventType: 'static,
-    E::EventType: From<Rndr::Event>,
+    E::EventType: From<crate::renderer::types::Event>,
    F: FnMut(E::EventType) + 'static,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
 {
-    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<On<E, F, Rndr>>;
+    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<On<E, F>>;

    fn on(self, event: E, cb: F) -> Self::Output {
        self.add_any_attr(on(event, cb))
@@ -131,7 +119,7 @@ where
 }

 /// Adds an event listener with a typed target to an element definition.
-pub trait OnTargetAttribute<E, F, T, Rndr> {
+pub trait OnTargetAttribute<E, F, T> {
    /// The type of the element with the new attribute added.
    type Output;

@@ -139,43 +127,36 @@ pub trait OnTargetAttribute<E, F, T, Rndr> {
    fn on_target(self, event: E, cb: F) -> Self::Output;
 }

-impl<El, At, Ch, E, F, Rndr> OnTargetAttribute<E, F, Self, Rndr>
-    for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<El, At, Ch, E, F> OnTargetAttribute<E, F, Self> for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch>
 where
-    El: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
+    El: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
    E: EventDescriptor + Send + 'static,
    E::EventType: 'static,
-    E::EventType: From<Rndr::Event>,
-    F: FnMut(
-            Targeted<E::EventType, <Self as HasElementType>::ElementType, Rndr>,
-        ) + 'static,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
+    E::EventType: From<crate::renderer::types::Event>,
+    F: FnMut(Targeted<E::EventType, <Self as HasElementType>::ElementType>)
+        + 'static,
 {
-    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<
-        On<E, Box<dyn FnMut(E::EventType)>, Rndr>,
-    >;
+    type Output =
+        <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<On<E, Box<dyn FnMut(E::EventType)>>>;

    fn on_target(self, event: E, cb: F) -> Self::Output {
-        self.add_any_attr(
-            on_target::<E, HtmlElement<El, At, Ch, Rndr>, Rndr, F>(event, cb),
-        )
+        self.add_any_attr(on_target::<E, HtmlElement<El, At, Ch>, F>(event, cb))
    }
 }

 /// Global attributes can be added to any HTML element.
-pub trait GlobalAttributes<Rndr, V>
+pub trait GlobalAttributes<V>
 where
-    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-    V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
    /// The `accesskey` global attribute provides a hint for generating a keyboard shortcut for the current element.
    fn accesskey(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Accesskey, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Accesskey, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(accesskey(value))
    }

@@ -183,7 +164,7 @@ where
    fn autocapitalize(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Autocapitalize, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Autocapitalize, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(autocapitalize(value))
    }

@@ -191,7 +172,7 @@ where
    fn autofocus(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Autofocus, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Autofocus, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(autofocus(value))
    }

@@ -199,16 +180,12 @@ where
    fn contenteditable(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Contenteditable, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Contenteditable, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(contenteditable(value))
    }

    /// The `dir` global attribute is an enumerated attribute indicating the directionality of the element's text.
-    fn dir(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Dir, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn dir(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Dir, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(dir(value))
    }

@@ -216,7 +193,7 @@ where
    fn draggable(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Draggable, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Draggable, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(draggable(value))
    }

@@ -224,31 +201,22 @@ where
    fn enterkeyhint(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Enterkeyhint, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Enterkeyhint, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(enterkeyhint(value))
    }

    /// The `hidden` global attribute is a Boolean attribute indicating that the element is not yet, or is no longer, relevant.
-    fn hidden(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Hidden, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn hidden(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Hidden, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(hidden(value))
    }

    /// The `id` global attribute defines a unique identifier (ID) which must be unique in the whole document.
-    fn id(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Id, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn id(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Id, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(id(value))
    }

    /// The `inert` global attribute is a Boolean attribute that makes an element behave inertly.
-    fn inert(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Inert, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn inert(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Inert, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(inert(value))
    }

@@ -256,23 +224,17 @@ where
    fn inputmode(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Inputmode, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Inputmode, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(inputmode(value))
    }

    /// The `is` global attribute allows you to specify that a standard HTML element should behave like a custom built-in element.
-    fn is(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Is, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn is(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Is, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(is(value))
    }

    /// The `itemid` global attribute is used to specify the unique, global identifier of an item.
-    fn itemid(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Itemid, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn itemid(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Itemid, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(itemid(value))
    }

@@ -280,7 +242,7 @@ where
    fn itemprop(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Itemprop, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Itemprop, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(itemprop(value))
    }

@@ -288,7 +250,7 @@ where
    fn itemref(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Itemref, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Itemref, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(itemref(value))
    }

@@ -296,7 +258,7 @@ where
    fn itemscope(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Itemscope, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Itemscope, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(itemscope(value))
    }

@@ -304,31 +266,22 @@ where
    fn itemtype(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Itemtype, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Itemtype, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(itemtype(value))
    }

    /// The `lang` global attribute helps define the language of an element.
-    fn lang(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Lang, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn lang(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Lang, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(lang(value))
    }

    /// The `nonce` global attribute is used to specify a cryptographic nonce.
-    fn nonce(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Nonce, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn nonce(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Nonce, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(nonce(value))
    }

    /// The `part` global attribute identifies the element as a part of a component.
-    fn part(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Part, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn part(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Part, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(part(value))
    }

@@ -336,23 +289,17 @@ where
    fn popover(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Popover, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Popover, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(popover(value))
    }

    /// The `role` global attribute defines the role of an element in ARIA.
-    fn role(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Role, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn role(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Role, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(role(value))
    }

    /// The `slot` global attribute assigns a slot in a shadow DOM.
-    fn slot(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Slot, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn slot(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Slot, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(slot(value))
    }

@@ -360,7 +307,7 @@ where
    fn spellcheck(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Spellcheck, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Spellcheck, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(spellcheck(value))
    }

@@ -368,15 +315,12 @@ where
    fn tabindex(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Tabindex, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Tabindex, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(tabindex(value))
    }

    /// The `title` global attribute contains text representing advisory information.
-    fn title(
-        self,
-        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Title, V, Rndr>> {
+    fn title(self, value: V) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Title, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(title(value))
    }

@@ -384,7 +328,7 @@ where
    fn translate(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Translate, V, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Translate, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(translate(value))
    }

@@ -392,20 +336,17 @@ where
    fn virtualkeyboardpolicy(
        self,
        value: V,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<Virtualkeyboardpolicy, V, Rndr>>
-    {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<Virtualkeyboardpolicy, V>> {
        self.add_any_attr(virtualkeyboardpolicy(value))
    }
 }

-impl<El, At, Ch, Rndr, V> GlobalAttributes<Rndr, V>
-    for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<El, At, Ch, V> GlobalAttributes<V> for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch>
 where
-    El: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
-    V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    El: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
 }

@@ -418,7 +359,7 @@ macro_rules! on_definitions {
                fn $key(
                    self,
                    value: V,
-                ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Attr<[<$key:camel>], V, Rndr>>
+                ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Attr<[<$key:camel>], V>>
                {
                    self.add_any_attr($key(value))
                }
@@ -428,11 +369,10 @@ macro_rules! on_definitions {
 }

 /// Provides methods for HTML event listener attributes.
-pub trait GlobalOnAttributes<Rndr, V>
+pub trait GlobalOnAttributes<V>
 where
-    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-    V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
    on_definitions! {
        /// The `onabort` attribute specifies the event handler for the abort event.
@@ -575,13 +515,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<El, At, Ch, Rndr, V> GlobalOnAttributes<Rndr, V>
-    for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<El, At, Ch, V> GlobalOnAttributes<V> for HtmlElement<El, At, Ch>
 where
-    El: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
-    V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    El: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
 }
--- a/tachys/src/html/attribute/key.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/attribute/key.rs
@@ -1,6 +1,5 @@
 use super::{Attr, AttributeValue};
-use crate::renderer::Renderer;
-use std::{fmt::Debug, marker::PhantomData};
+use std::fmt::Debug;

 /// An HTML attribute key.
 pub trait AttributeKey: Clone + Send + 'static {
@@ -14,11 +13,11 @@ macro_rules! attributes {
            $(
                #[$meta]
                #[track_caller]
-                pub fn $key<V, Rndr>(value: V) -> Attr<[<$key:camel>], V, Rndr>
-				where V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-                  Rndr: Renderer
+                pub fn $key<V>(value: V) -> Attr<[<$key:camel>], V>
+				where V: AttributeValue,
+
                {
-                    Attr([<$key:camel>], value, PhantomData)
+                    Attr([<$key:camel>], value)
                }

                #[$meta]
--- a/tachys/src/html/attribute/mod.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/attribute/mod.rs
@@ -8,28 +8,25 @@ pub mod custom;
 pub mod global;
 mod key;
 mod value;
-use crate::{
-    renderer::Renderer,
-    view::{Position, ToTemplate},
-};
+use crate::view::{Position, ToTemplate};
 pub use key::*;
-use std::{fmt::Debug, future::Future, marker::PhantomData};
+use std::{fmt::Debug, future::Future};
 pub use value::*;

 /// Defines an attribute: anything that can modify an element.
-pub trait Attribute<R: Renderer>: NextAttribute<R> + Send {
+pub trait Attribute: NextAttribute + Send {
    /// The minimum length of this attribute in HTML.
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize;

    /// The state that should be retained between building and rebuilding.
    type State;
    /// The type once all async data have loaded.
-    type AsyncOutput: Attribute<R>;
+    type AsyncOutput: Attribute;
    /// An equivalent to this attribute that can be cloned to be shared across elements.
-    type Cloneable: Attribute<R> + Clone;
+    type Cloneable: Attribute + Clone;
    /// An equivalent to this attribute that can be cloned to be shared across elements, and
    /// captures no references shorter than `'static`.
-    type CloneableOwned: Attribute<R> + Clone + 'static;
+    type CloneableOwned: Attribute + Clone + 'static;

    /// An approximation of the actual length of this attribute in HTML.
    fn html_len(&self) -> usize;
@@ -49,10 +46,13 @@ pub trait Attribute<R: Renderer>: NextAttribute<R> + Send {

    /// Adds interactivity as necessary, given DOM nodes that were created from HTML that has
    /// either been rendered on the server, or cloned for a `<template>`.
-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State;
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State;

    /// Adds this attribute to the element during client-side rendering.
-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State;
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State;

    /// Applies a new value for the attribute.
    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State);
@@ -75,21 +75,18 @@ pub trait Attribute<R: Renderer>: NextAttribute<R> + Send {
 /// Adds another attribute to this one, returning a new attribute.
 ///
 /// This is typically achieved by creating or extending a tuple of attributes.
-pub trait NextAttribute<R: Renderer> {
+pub trait NextAttribute {
    /// The type of the new, combined attribute.
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>: Attribute<R>;
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute>: Attribute;

    /// Adds a new attribute.
-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>;
 }

-impl<R> Attribute<R> for ()
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl Attribute for () {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;

    type State = ();
@@ -110,10 +107,13 @@ where
    ) {
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, _el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
    }

-    fn build(self, _el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {}
+    fn build(self, _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {}

    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}

@@ -130,13 +130,10 @@ where
    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {}
 }

-impl<R> NextAttribute<R> for ()
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (NewAttr,);
+impl NextAttribute for () {
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (NewAttr,);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -146,28 +143,25 @@ where

 /// An attribute with a key and value.
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct Attr<K, V, R>(pub K, pub V, pub PhantomData<R>)
+pub struct Attr<K, V>(pub K, pub V)
 where
    K: AttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R>,
-    R: Renderer;
+    V: AttributeValue;

-impl<K, V, R> Clone for Attr<K, V, R>
+impl<K, V> Clone for Attr<K, V>
 where
    K: AttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R> + Clone,
-    R: Renderer,
+    V: AttributeValue + Clone,
 {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
-        Self(self.0.clone(), self.1.clone(), PhantomData)
+        Self(self.0.clone(), self.1.clone())
    }
 }

-impl<K, V, R> ToTemplate for Attr<K, V, R>
+impl<K, V> ToTemplate for Attr<K, V>
 where
    K: AttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
    fn to_template(
        buf: &mut String,
@@ -180,18 +174,17 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<K, V, R> Attribute<R> for Attr<K, V, R>
+impl<K, V> Attribute for Attr<K, V>
 where
    K: AttributeKey + Send,
-    V: AttributeValue<R> + Send,
-    R: Renderer,
+    V: AttributeValue + Send,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;

    type State = V::State;
-    type AsyncOutput = Attr<K, V::AsyncOutput, R>;
-    type Cloneable = Attr<K, V::Cloneable, R>;
-    type CloneableOwned = Attr<K, V::CloneableOwned, R>;
+    type AsyncOutput = Attr<K, V::AsyncOutput>;
+    type Cloneable = Attr<K, V::Cloneable>;
+    type CloneableOwned = Attr<K, V::CloneableOwned>;

    fn html_len(&self) -> usize {
        K::KEY.len() + 3 + self.1.html_len()
@@ -207,11 +200,14 @@ where
        self.1.to_html(K::KEY, buf);
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        self.1.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(K::KEY, el)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        V::build(self.1, el, K::KEY)
    }

@@ -220,11 +216,11 @@ where
    }

    fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
-        Attr(self.0, self.1.into_cloneable(), PhantomData)
+        Attr(self.0, self.1.into_cloneable())
    }

    fn into_cloneable_owned(self) -> Self::CloneableOwned {
-        Attr(self.0, self.1.into_cloneable_owned(), PhantomData)
+        Attr(self.0, self.1.into_cloneable_owned())
    }

    fn dry_resolve(&mut self) {
@@ -232,19 +228,18 @@ where
    }

    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
-        Attr(self.0, self.1.resolve().await, PhantomData)
+        Attr(self.0, self.1.resolve().await)
    }
 }

-impl<K, V, R> NextAttribute<R> for Attr<K, V, R>
+impl<K, V> NextAttribute for Attr<K, V>
 where
    K: AttributeKey,
-    V: AttributeValue<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -254,11 +249,11 @@ where

 macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples {
 	($first:ident, $($ty:ident),* $(,)?) => {
-		impl<$first, $($ty),*, Rndr> Attribute<Rndr> for ($first, $($ty,)*)
+		impl<$first, $($ty),*> Attribute for ($first, $($ty,)*)
 		where
-			$first: Attribute<Rndr>,
-			$($ty: Attribute<Rndr>),*,
-            Rndr: Renderer
+			$first: Attribute,
+			$($ty: Attribute),*,
+
 		{
            const MIN_LENGTH: usize = $first::MIN_LENGTH $(+ $ty::MIN_LENGTH)*;

@@ -280,7 +275,7 @@ macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples {
 					$($ty.to_html(buf, class, style, inner_html));*
 			}

-			fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &Rndr::Element) -> Self::State {
+			fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
                #[allow(non_snake_case)]
 					let ($first, $($ty,)* ) = self;
 					(
@@ -289,7 +284,7 @@ macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples {
 					)
 			}

-            fn build(self, el: &Rndr::Element) -> Self::State {
+            fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
                #[allow(non_snake_case)]
 					let ($first, $($ty,)*) = self;
                    (
@@ -342,15 +337,15 @@ macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples {
            }
        }

-		impl<$first, $($ty),*, Rndr> NextAttribute<Rndr> for ($first, $($ty,)*)
+		impl<$first, $($ty),*> NextAttribute for ($first, $($ty,)*)
 		where
-			$first: Attribute<Rndr>,
-			$($ty: Attribute<Rndr>),*,
-            Rndr: Renderer
-        {
-            type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = ($first, $($ty,)* NewAttr);
+			$first: Attribute,
+			$($ty: Attribute),*,

-            fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+        {
+            type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = ($first, $($ty,)* NewAttr);
+
+            fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
                self,
                new_attr: NewAttr,
            ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -364,11 +359,11 @@ macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples {

 macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples_truncate_additional {
 	($first:ident, $($ty:ident),* $(,)?) => {
-		impl<$first, $($ty),*, Rndr> Attribute<Rndr> for ($first, $($ty,)*)
+		impl<$first, $($ty),*> Attribute for ($first, $($ty,)*)
 		where
-			$first: Attribute<Rndr>,
-			$($ty: Attribute<Rndr>),*,
-            Rndr: Renderer
+			$first: Attribute,
+			$($ty: Attribute),*,
+
 		{
            const MIN_LENGTH: usize = $first::MIN_LENGTH $(+ $ty::MIN_LENGTH)*;

@@ -390,7 +385,7 @@ macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples_truncate_additional {
                $($ty.to_html(buf, class, style, inner_html));*
 			}

-			fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &Rndr::Element) -> Self::State {
+			fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
                #[allow(non_snake_case)]
                let ($first, $($ty,)* ) = self;
                (
@@ -399,7 +394,7 @@ macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples_truncate_additional {
                )
 			}

-            fn build(self, el: &Rndr::Element) -> Self::State {
+            fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
                #[allow(non_snake_case)]
                let ($first, $($ty,)*) = self;
                (
@@ -452,15 +447,15 @@ macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples_truncate_additional {
            }
        }

-		impl<$first, $($ty),*, Rndr> NextAttribute<Rndr> for ($first, $($ty,)*)
+		impl<$first, $($ty),*> NextAttribute for ($first, $($ty,)*)
 		where
-			$first: Attribute<Rndr>,
-			$($ty: Attribute<Rndr>),*,
-            Rndr: Renderer
-        {
-            type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = ($first, $($ty,)*);
+			$first: Attribute,
+			$($ty: Attribute),*,

-            fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+        {
+            type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = ($first, $($ty,)*);
+
+            fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
                self,
                _new_attr: NewAttr,
            ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -471,10 +466,9 @@ macro_rules! impl_attr_for_tuples_truncate_additional {
 	};
 }

-impl<A, Rndr> Attribute<Rndr> for (A,)
+impl<A> Attribute for (A,)
 where
-    A: Attribute<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: Attribute,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = A::MIN_LENGTH;

@@ -499,12 +493,12 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &Rndr::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        self.0.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &Rndr::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        self.0.build(el)
    }

@@ -529,14 +523,13 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<A, Rndr> NextAttribute<Rndr> for (A,)
+impl<A> NextAttribute for (A,)
 where
-    A: Attribute<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: Attribute,
 {
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = (A, NewAttr);
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (A, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
--- a/tachys/src/html/attribute/value.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/attribute/value.rs
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-use crate::renderer::Renderer;
+use crate::renderer::Rndr;
 use std::{
    borrow::Cow,
    future::Future,
@@ -12,12 +12,12 @@ use std::{
 };

 /// A possible value for an HTML attribute.
-pub trait AttributeValue<R: Renderer>: Send {
+pub trait AttributeValue: Send {
    /// The state that should be retained between building and rebuilding.
    type State;

    /// The type once all async data have loaded.
-    type AsyncOutput: AttributeValue<R>;
+    type AsyncOutput: AttributeValue;

    /// A version of the value that can be cloned. This can be the same type, or a
    /// reference-counted type. Generally speaking, this does *not* need to refer to the same data,
@@ -25,12 +25,12 @@ pub trait AttributeValue<R: Renderer>: Send {
    /// probably make it reference-counted (so that a `FnMut()` continues mutating the same
    /// closure), but making a `String` cloneable does not necessarily need to make it an
    /// `Arc<str>`, as two different clones of a `String` will still have the same value.
-    type Cloneable: AttributeValue<R> + Clone;
+    type Cloneable: AttributeValue + Clone;

    /// A cloneable type that is also `'static`. This is used for spreading across types when the
    /// spreadable attribute needs to be owned. In some cases (`&'a str` to `Arc<str>`, etc.) the owned
    /// cloneable type has worse performance than the cloneable type, so they are separate.
-    type CloneableOwned: AttributeValue<R> + Clone + 'static;
+    type CloneableOwned: AttributeValue + Clone + 'static;

    /// An approximation of the actual length of this attribute in HTML.
    fn html_len(&self) -> usize;
@@ -46,11 +46,15 @@ pub trait AttributeValue<R: Renderer>: Send {
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State;

    /// Adds this attribute to the element during client-side rendering.
-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State;
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State;

    /// Applies a new value for the attribute.
    fn rebuild(self, key: &str, state: &mut Self::State);
@@ -70,10 +74,7 @@ pub trait AttributeValue<R: Renderer>: Send {
    fn resolve(self) -> impl Future<Output = Self::AsyncOutput> + Send;
 }

-impl<R> AttributeValue<R> for ()
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl AttributeValue for () {
    type State = ();
    type AsyncOutput = ();
    type Cloneable = ();
@@ -87,9 +88,19 @@ where

    fn to_template(_key: &str, _buf: &mut String) {}

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, _key: &str, _el: &R::Element) {}
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        _key: &str,
+        _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) {
+    }

-    fn build(self, _el: &R::Element, _key: &str) -> Self::State {}
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        _key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+    }

    fn rebuild(self, _key: &str, _state: &mut Self::State) {}

@@ -106,11 +117,8 @@ where
    async fn resolve(self) {}
 }

-impl<'a, R> AttributeValue<R> for &'a str
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
-    type State = (R::Element, &'a str);
+impl<'a> AttributeValue for &'a str {
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, &'a str);
    type AsyncOutput = &'a str;
    type Cloneable = &'a str;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;
@@ -132,25 +140,29 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        // if we're actually hydrating from SSRed HTML, we don't need to set the attribute
        // if we're hydrating from a CSR-cloned <template>, we do need to set non-StaticAttr attributes
        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_attribute(el, key, self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, self);
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, key, self);
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, self);
        (el.to_owned(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, key: &str, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev_value) = state;
        if self != *prev_value {
-            R::set_attribute(el, key, self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, self);
        }
        *prev_value = self;
    }
@@ -171,10 +183,8 @@ where
 }

 #[cfg(feature = "nightly")]
-impl<R, const V: &'static str> AttributeValue<R>
+impl<const V: &'static str> AttributeValue
    for crate::view::static_types::Static<V>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
    type State = ();
@@ -186,7 +196,7 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, key: &str, buf: &mut String) {
-        <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::to_html(V, key, buf);
+        <&str as AttributeValue>::to_html(V, key, buf);
    }

    fn to_template(key: &str, buf: &mut String) {
@@ -200,12 +210,16 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        _key: &str,
-        _el: &R::Element,
+        _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
-        <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::build(V, el, key);
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        <&str as AttributeValue>::build(V, el, key);
    }

    fn rebuild(self, _key: &str, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
@@ -225,12 +239,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<'a, R> AttributeValue<R> for &'a String
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl<'a> AttributeValue for &'a String {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, &'a String);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, &'a String);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -239,7 +250,7 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, key: &str, buf: &mut String) {
-        <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::to_html(self.as_str(), key, buf);
+        <&str as AttributeValue>::to_html(self.as_str(), key, buf);
    }

    fn to_template(_key: &str, _buf: &mut String) {}
@@ -247,9 +258,9 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        let (el, _) = <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+        let (el, _) = <&str as AttributeValue>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
            self.as_str(),
            key,
            el,
@@ -257,15 +268,19 @@ where
        (el, self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, key, self);
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, key: &str, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev_value) = state;
        if self != *prev_value {
-            R::set_attribute(el, key, self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, self);
        }
        *prev_value = self;
    }
@@ -285,12 +300,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> AttributeValue<R> for String
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl AttributeValue for String {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, String);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, String);
    type Cloneable = Arc<str>;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -299,7 +311,7 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, key: &str, buf: &mut String) {
-        <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::to_html(self.as_str(), key, buf);
+        <&str as AttributeValue>::to_html(self.as_str(), key, buf);
    }

    fn to_template(_key: &str, _buf: &mut String) {}
@@ -307,9 +319,9 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        let (el, _) = <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+        let (el, _) = <&str as AttributeValue>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
            self.as_str(),
            key,
            el,
@@ -317,15 +329,19 @@ where
        (el, self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, key: &str, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev_value) = state;
        if self != *prev_value {
-            R::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
        }
        *prev_value = self;
    }
@@ -345,12 +361,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> AttributeValue<R> for Arc<str>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl AttributeValue for Arc<str> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Arc<str>);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Arc<str>);
    type Cloneable = Arc<str>;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -359,7 +372,7 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, key: &str, buf: &mut String) {
-        <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::to_html(self.as_ref(), key, buf);
+        <&str as AttributeValue>::to_html(self.as_ref(), key, buf);
    }

    fn to_template(_key: &str, _buf: &mut String) {}
@@ -367,9 +380,9 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        let (el, _) = <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+        let (el, _) = <&str as AttributeValue>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
            self.as_ref(),
            key,
            el,
@@ -377,15 +390,19 @@ where
        (el, self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, key: &str, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev_value) = state;
        if self != *prev_value {
-            R::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
        }
        *prev_value = self;
    }
@@ -406,12 +423,9 @@ where
 }
 // TODO impl AttributeValue for Rc<str> and Arc<str> too

-impl<R> AttributeValue<R> for bool
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl AttributeValue for bool {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, bool);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, bool);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -431,19 +445,23 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        // if we're actually hydrating from SSRed HTML, we don't need to set the attribute
        // if we're hydrating from a CSR-cloned <template>, we do need to set non-StaticAttr attributes
        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_attribute(el, key, "");
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, "");
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        if self {
-            R::set_attribute(el, key, "");
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, "");
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }
@@ -452,9 +470,9 @@ where
        let (el, prev_value) = state;
        if self != *prev_value {
            if self {
-                R::set_attribute(el, key, "");
+                Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, "");
            } else {
-                R::remove_attribute(el, key);
+                Rndr::remove_attribute(el, key);
            }
        }
        *prev_value = self;
@@ -475,13 +493,12 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<V, R> AttributeValue<R> for Option<V>
+impl<V> AttributeValue for Option<V>
 where
-    V: AttributeValue<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    V: AttributeValue,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Option<V::AsyncOutput>;
-    type State = (R::Element, Option<V::State>);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Option<V::State>);
    type Cloneable = Option<V::Cloneable>;
    type CloneableOwned = Option<V::CloneableOwned>;

@@ -503,13 +520,17 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let state = self.map(|v| v.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(key, el));
        (el.clone(), state)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        let el = el.clone();
        let v = self.map(|v| v.build(&el, key));
        (el, v)
@@ -520,7 +541,7 @@ where
        match (self, prev.as_mut()) {
            (None, None) => {}
            (None, Some(_)) => {
-                R::remove_attribute(el, key);
+                Rndr::remove_attribute(el, key);
                *prev = None;
            }
            (Some(value), None) => {
@@ -561,12 +582,12 @@ pub(crate) fn escape_attr(value: &str) -> Cow<'_, str> {
 macro_rules! render_primitive {
  ($($child_type:ty),* $(,)?) => {
      $(
-        impl<R> AttributeValue<R> for $child_type
+        impl AttributeValue for $child_type
        where
-            R: Renderer,
+
        {
            type AsyncOutput = $child_type;
-            type State = (R::Element, $child_type);
+            type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, $child_type);
            type Cloneable = Self;
            type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -575,7 +596,7 @@ macro_rules! render_primitive {
            }

            fn to_html(self, key: &str, buf: &mut String) {
-                <String as AttributeValue<R>>::to_html(self.to_string(), key, buf);
+                <String as AttributeValue>::to_html(self.to_string(), key, buf);
            }

            fn to_template(_key: &str, _buf: &mut String) {}
@@ -583,25 +604,25 @@ macro_rules! render_primitive {
            fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                self,
                key: &str,
-                el: &R::Element,
+                el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
            ) -> Self::State {
                // if we're actually hydrating from SSRed HTML, we don't need to set the attribute
                // if we're hydrating from a CSR-cloned <template>, we do need to set non-StaticAttr attributes
                if !FROM_SERVER {
-                    R::set_attribute(el, key, &self.to_string());
+                    Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, &self.to_string());
                }
                (el.clone(), self)
            }

-            fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
-                R::set_attribute(el, key, &self.to_string());
+            fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+                Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, &self.to_string());
                (el.to_owned(), self)
            }

            fn rebuild(self, key: &str, state: &mut Self::State) {
                let (el, prev_value) = state;
                if self != *prev_value {
-                    R::set_attribute(el, key, &self.to_string());
+                    Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, &self.to_string());
                }
                *prev_value = self;
            }
--- a/tachys/src/html/class.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/class.rs
@@ -1,53 +1,46 @@
 use super::attribute::{Attribute, NextAttribute};
 use crate::{
-    renderer::DomRenderer,
+    renderer::Rndr,
    view::{Position, ToTemplate},
 };
-use std::{future::Future, marker::PhantomData, sync::Arc};
+use std::{future::Future, sync::Arc};

 /// Adds a CSS class.
 #[inline(always)]
-pub fn class<C, R>(class: C) -> Class<C, R>
+pub fn class<C>(class: C) -> Class<C>
 where
-    C: IntoClass<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    C: IntoClass,
 {
-    Class {
-        class,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
-    }
+    Class { class }
 }

 /// A CSS class.
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct Class<C, R> {
+pub struct Class<C> {
    class: C,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<C, R> Clone for Class<C, R>
+impl<C> Clone for Class<C>
 where
    C: Clone,
 {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        Self {
            class: self.class.clone(),
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<C, R> Attribute<R> for Class<C, R>
+impl<C> Attribute for Class<C>
 where
-    C: IntoClass<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    C: IntoClass,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = C::MIN_LENGTH;

-    type AsyncOutput = Class<C::AsyncOutput, R>;
+    type AsyncOutput = Class<C::AsyncOutput>;
    type State = C::State;
-    type Cloneable = Class<C::Cloneable, R>;
-    type CloneableOwned = Class<C::CloneableOwned, R>;
+    type Cloneable = Class<C::Cloneable>;
+    type CloneableOwned = Class<C::CloneableOwned>;

    fn html_len(&self) -> usize {
        self.class.html_len() + 1
@@ -64,11 +57,14 @@ where
        self.class.to_html(class);
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        self.class.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        self.class.build(el)
    }

@@ -79,14 +75,12 @@ where
    fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
        Class {
            class: self.class.into_cloneable(),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

    fn into_cloneable_owned(self) -> Self::CloneableOwned {
        Class {
            class: self.class.into_cloneable_owned(),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -97,19 +91,17 @@ where
    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
        Class {
            class: self.class.resolve().await,
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<C, R> NextAttribute<R> for Class<C, R>
+impl<C> NextAttribute for Class<C>
 where
-    C: IntoClass<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    C: IntoClass,
 {
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -117,10 +109,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<C, R> ToTemplate for Class<C, R>
+impl<C> ToTemplate for Class<C>
 where
-    C: IntoClass<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    C: IntoClass,
 {
    const CLASS: &'static str = C::TEMPLATE;

@@ -136,20 +127,20 @@ where
 }

 /// A possible value for a CSS class.
-pub trait IntoClass<R: DomRenderer>: Send {
+pub trait IntoClass: Send {
    /// The HTML that should be included in a `<template>`.
    const TEMPLATE: &'static str = "";
    /// The minimum length of the HTML.
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = Self::TEMPLATE.len();

    /// The type after all async data have resolved.
-    type AsyncOutput: IntoClass<R>;
+    type AsyncOutput: IntoClass;
    /// The view state retained between building and rebuilding.
    type State;
    /// An equivalent value that can be cloned.
-    type Cloneable: IntoClass<R> + Clone;
+    type Cloneable: IntoClass + Clone;
    /// An equivalent value that can be cloned and is `'static`.
-    type CloneableOwned: IntoClass<R> + Clone + 'static;
+    type CloneableOwned: IntoClass + Clone + 'static;

    /// The estimated length of the HTML.
    fn html_len(&self) -> usize;
@@ -163,10 +154,13 @@ pub trait IntoClass<R: DomRenderer>: Send {

    /// Adds interactivity as necessary, given DOM nodes that were created from HTML that has
    /// either been rendered on the server, or cloned for a `<template>`.
-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State;
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State;

    /// Adds this class to the element during client-side rendering.
-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State;
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State;

    /// Updates the value.
    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State);
@@ -186,12 +180,9 @@ pub trait IntoClass<R: DomRenderer>: Send {
    fn resolve(self) -> impl Future<Output = Self::AsyncOutput> + Send;
 }

-impl<'a, R> IntoClass<R> for &'a str
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl<'a> IntoClass for &'a str {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Self);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Self);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -203,22 +194,25 @@ where
        class.push_str(self);
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "class", self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", self);
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, "class", self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev) = state;
        if self != *prev {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "class", self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", self);
        }
        *prev = self;
    }
@@ -238,12 +232,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> IntoClass<R> for String
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl IntoClass for String {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Self);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Self);
    type Cloneable = Arc<str>;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -252,25 +243,28 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, class: &mut String) {
-        IntoClass::<R>::to_html(self.as_str(), class);
+        IntoClass::to_html(self.as_str(), class);
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev) = state;
        if self != *prev {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
        }
        *prev = self;
    }
@@ -290,12 +284,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> IntoClass<R> for Arc<str>
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl IntoClass for Arc<str> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Self);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Self);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -304,25 +295,28 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, class: &mut String) {
-        IntoClass::<R>::to_html(self.as_ref(), class);
+        IntoClass::to_html(self.as_ref(), class);
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev) = state;
        if !Arc::ptr_eq(&self, prev) {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
        }
        *prev = self;
    }
@@ -342,12 +336,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> IntoClass<R> for (&'static str, bool)
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl IntoClass for (&'static str, bool) {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::ClassList, bool);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -362,20 +353,23 @@ where
        }
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        let (name, include) = self;
-        let class_list = R::class_list(el);
+        let class_list = Rndr::class_list(el);
        if !FROM_SERVER && include {
-            R::add_class(&class_list, name);
+            Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
        }
        (class_list, self.1)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let (name, include) = self;
-        let class_list = R::class_list(el);
+        let class_list = Rndr::class_list(el);
        if include {
-            R::add_class(&class_list, name);
+            Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
        }
        (class_list, self.1)
    }
@@ -385,9 +379,9 @@ where
        let (class_list, prev_include) = state;
        if include != *prev_include {
            if include {
-                R::add_class(class_list, name);
+                Rndr::add_class(class_list, name);
            } else {
-                R::remove_class(class_list, name);
+                Rndr::remove_class(class_list, name);
            }
        }
        *prev_include = include;
@@ -409,11 +403,7 @@ where
 }

 #[cfg(feature = "nightly")]
-impl<R, const V: &'static str> IntoClass<R>
-    for crate::view::static_types::Static<V>
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl<const V: &'static str> IntoClass for crate::view::static_types::Static<V> {
    const TEMPLATE: &'static str = V;

    type AsyncOutput = Self;
@@ -433,11 +423,14 @@ where
        class.push_str(V);
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, _el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, "class", V);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", V);
    }

    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
--- a/tachys/src/html/directive.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/directive.rs
@@ -1,7 +1,6 @@
 use super::attribute::{Attribute, NextAttribute};
 use crate::{
    prelude::AddAnyAttr,
-    renderer::Renderer,
    view::{Position, ToTemplate},
 };
 use send_wrapper::SendWrapper;
@@ -9,10 +8,9 @@ use std::{marker::PhantomData, sync::Arc};

 /// Adds a directive to the element, which runs some custom logic in the browser when the element
 /// is created or hydrated.
-pub trait DirectiveAttribute<T, P, D, Rndr>
+pub trait DirectiveAttribute<T, P, D>
 where
-    D: IntoDirective<T, P, Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    D: IntoDirective<T, P>,
 {
    /// The type of the element with the directive added.
    type Output;
@@ -22,15 +20,14 @@ where
    fn directive(self, handler: D, param: P) -> Self::Output;
 }

-impl<V, T, P, D, Rndr> DirectiveAttribute<T, P, D, Rndr> for V
+impl<V, T, P, D> DirectiveAttribute<T, P, D> for V
 where
-    V: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-    D: IntoDirective<T, P, Rndr>,
+    V: AddAnyAttr,
+    D: IntoDirective<T, P>,
    P: Clone + 'static,
    T: 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
-    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<Directive<T, D, P, Rndr>>;
+    type Output = <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<Directive<T, D, P>>;

    fn directive(self, handler: D, param: P) -> Self::Output {
        self.add_any_attr(directive(handler, param))
@@ -40,26 +37,22 @@ where
 /// Adds a directive to the element, which runs some custom logic in the browser when the element
 /// is created or hydrated.
 #[inline(always)]
-pub fn directive<T, P, D, R>(handler: D, param: P) -> Directive<T, D, P, R>
+pub fn directive<T, P, D>(handler: D, param: P) -> Directive<T, D, P>
 where
-    D: IntoDirective<T, P, R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    D: IntoDirective<T, P>,
 {
    Directive(Some(SendWrapper::new(DirectiveInner {
        handler,
        param,
        t: PhantomData,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
    })))
 }

 /// Custom logic that runs in the browser when the element is created or hydrated.
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct Directive<T, D, P, R>(
-    Option<SendWrapper<DirectiveInner<T, D, P, R>>>,
-);
+pub struct Directive<T, D, P>(Option<SendWrapper<DirectiveInner<T, D, P>>>);

-impl<T, D, P, R> Clone for Directive<T, D, P, R>
+impl<T, D, P> Clone for Directive<T, D, P>
 where
    P: Clone + 'static,
    D: Clone,
@@ -70,14 +63,13 @@ where
 }

 #[derive(Debug)]
-struct DirectiveInner<T, D, P, R> {
+struct DirectiveInner<T, D, P> {
    handler: D,
    param: P,
    t: PhantomData<T>,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<T, D, P, R> Clone for DirectiveInner<T, D, P, R>
+impl<T, D, P> Clone for DirectiveInner<T, D, P>
 where
    P: Clone + 'static,
    D: Clone,
@@ -87,24 +79,22 @@ where
            handler: self.handler.clone(),
            param: self.param.clone(),
            t: PhantomData,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<T, P, D, R> Attribute<R> for Directive<T, D, P, R>
+impl<T, P, D> Attribute for Directive<T, D, P>
 where
-    D: IntoDirective<T, P, R>,
+    D: IntoDirective<T, P>,
    P: Clone + 'static, // TODO this is just here to make them cloneable
    T: 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;

    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = R::Element;
-    type Cloneable = Directive<T, D::Cloneable, P, R>;
-    type CloneableOwned = Directive<T, D::Cloneable, P, R>;
+    type State = crate::renderer::types::Element;
+    type Cloneable = Directive<T, D::Cloneable, P>;
+    type CloneableOwned = Directive<T, D::Cloneable, P>;

    fn html_len(&self) -> usize {
        0
@@ -119,13 +109,16 @@ where
    ) {
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        let inner = self.0.expect("directive removed early").take();
        inner.handler.run(el.clone(), inner.param);
        el.clone()
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let inner = self.0.expect("directive removed early").take();
        inner.handler.run(el.clone(), inner.param);
        el.clone()
@@ -142,17 +135,11 @@ where

    fn into_cloneable_owned(self) -> Self::CloneableOwned {
        let inner = self.0.map(|inner| {
-            let DirectiveInner {
-                handler,
-                param,
-                t,
-                rndr,
-            } = inner.take();
+            let DirectiveInner { handler, param, t } = inner.take();
            SendWrapper::new(DirectiveInner {
                handler: handler.into_cloneable(),
                param,
                t,
-                rndr,
            })
        });
        Directive(inner)
@@ -171,16 +158,15 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, D, P, R> NextAttribute<R> for Directive<T, D, P, R>
+impl<T, D, P> NextAttribute for Directive<T, D, P>
 where
-    D: IntoDirective<T, P, R>,
+    D: IntoDirective<T, P>,
    P: Clone + 'static,
    T: 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -188,7 +174,7 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, D, P, R> ToTemplate for Directive<T, D, P, R> {
+impl<T, D, P> ToTemplate for Directive<T, D, P> {
    const CLASS: &'static str = "";

    fn to_template(
@@ -211,12 +197,12 @@ impl<T, D, P, R> ToTemplate for Directive<T, D, P, R> {
 /// # use leptos::{*, html::AnyElement};
 ///
 /// // This doesn't take an attribute value
-/// fn my_directive(el: R::Element) {
+/// fn my_directive(el: crate::renderer::types::Element) {
 ///     // do sth
 /// }
 ///
 /// // This requires an attribute value
-/// fn another_directive(el: R::Element, params: i32) {
+/// fn another_directive(el: crate::renderer::types::Element, params: i32) {
 ///     // do sth
 /// }
 ///
@@ -247,25 +233,24 @@ impl<T, D, P, R> ToTemplate for Directive<T, D, P, R> {
 /// A directive can be a function with one or two parameters.
 /// The first is the element the directive is added to and the optional
 /// second is the parameter that is provided in the attribute.
-pub trait IntoDirective<T: ?Sized, P, R: Renderer> {
+pub trait IntoDirective<T: ?Sized, P> {
    /// An equivalent to this directive that is cloneable and owned.
-    type Cloneable: IntoDirective<T, P, R> + Clone + 'static;
+    type Cloneable: IntoDirective<T, P> + Clone + 'static;

    /// Calls the handler function
-    fn run(&self, el: R::Element, param: P);
+    fn run(&self, el: crate::renderer::types::Element, param: P);

    /// Converts this into a cloneable type.
    fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable;
 }

-impl<F, R> IntoDirective<(R::Element,), (), R> for F
+impl<F> IntoDirective<(crate::renderer::types::Element,), ()> for F
 where
-    F: Fn(R::Element) + 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
+    F: Fn(crate::renderer::types::Element) + 'static,
 {
-    type Cloneable = Arc<dyn Fn(R::Element)>;
+    type Cloneable = Arc<dyn Fn(crate::renderer::types::Element)>;

-    fn run(&self, el: R::Element, _: ()) {
+    fn run(&self, el: crate::renderer::types::Element, _: ()) {
        self(el)
    }

@@ -274,13 +259,12 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> IntoDirective<(R::Element,), (), R> for Arc<dyn Fn(R::Element)>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
+impl IntoDirective<(crate::renderer::types::Element,), ()>
+    for Arc<dyn Fn(crate::renderer::types::Element)>
 {
-    type Cloneable = Arc<dyn Fn(R::Element)>;
+    type Cloneable = Arc<dyn Fn(crate::renderer::types::Element)>;

-    fn run(&self, el: R::Element, _: ()) {
+    fn run(&self, el: crate::renderer::types::Element, _: ()) {
        self(el)
    }

@@ -289,15 +273,14 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<F, P, R> IntoDirective<(R::Element, P), P, R> for F
+impl<F, P> IntoDirective<(crate::renderer::types::Element, P), P> for F
 where
-    F: Fn(R::Element, P) + 'static,
+    F: Fn(crate::renderer::types::Element, P) + 'static,
    P: 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
-    type Cloneable = Arc<dyn Fn(R::Element, P)>;
+    type Cloneable = Arc<dyn Fn(crate::renderer::types::Element, P)>;

-    fn run(&self, el: R::Element, param: P) {
+    fn run(&self, el: crate::renderer::types::Element, param: P) {
        self(el, param);
    }

@@ -306,14 +289,14 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<P, R> IntoDirective<(R::Element, P), P, R> for Arc<dyn Fn(R::Element, P)>
+impl<P> IntoDirective<(crate::renderer::types::Element, P), P>
+    for Arc<dyn Fn(crate::renderer::types::Element, P)>
 where
-    R: Renderer,
    P: 'static,
 {
-    type Cloneable = Arc<dyn Fn(R::Element, P)>;
+    type Cloneable = Arc<dyn Fn(crate::renderer::types::Element, P)>;

-    fn run(&self, el: R::Element, param: P) {
+    fn run(&self, el: crate::renderer::types::Element, param: P) {
        self(el, param)
    }

--- a/tachys/src/html/element/custom.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/element/custom.rs
@@ -1,20 +1,16 @@
 use super::ElementWithChildren;
-use crate::{
-    html::element::{CreateElement, ElementType, HtmlElement},
-    renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
-};
-use std::{fmt::Debug, marker::PhantomData};
+use crate::html::element::{ElementType, HtmlElement};
+use std::fmt::Debug;

 /// Creates a custom element.
 #[track_caller]
-pub fn custom<E, Rndr>(tag: E) -> HtmlElement<Custom<E>, (), (), Rndr>
+pub fn custom<E>(tag: E) -> HtmlElement<Custom<E>, (), ()>
 where
    E: AsRef<str>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    HtmlElement {
        tag: Custom(tag),
-        rndr: PhantomData,
+
        attributes: (),
        children: (),
    }
@@ -40,16 +36,3 @@ where
 }

 impl<E> ElementWithChildren for Custom<E> {}
-
-impl<E> CreateElement<Dom> for Custom<E>
-where
-    E: AsRef<str>,
-{
-    fn create_element(&self) -> <Dom as Renderer>::Element {
-        use wasm_bindgen::intern;
-
-        crate::dom::document()
-            .create_element(intern(self.0.as_ref()))
-            .unwrap()
-    }
-}
--- a/tachys/src/html/element/element_ext.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/element/element_ext.rs
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ use crate::{
        event::{on, EventDescriptor},
        style::IntoStyle,
    },
-    renderer::{dom::Dom, DomRenderer, RemoveEventHandler},
+    renderer::RemoveEventHandler,
 };
 use wasm_bindgen::JsValue;
 use web_sys::Element;
@@ -31,17 +31,17 @@ pub trait ElementExt {
    /// Adds an attribute to the element, at runtime.
    fn attr<At>(&self, attribute: At) -> At::State
    where
-        At: Attribute<Dom>;
+        At: Attribute;

    /// Adds a class to the element, at runtime.
    fn class<C>(&self, class: C) -> C::State
    where
-        C: IntoClass<Dom>;
+        C: IntoClass;

    /// Adds a style to the element, at runtime.
    fn style<S>(&self, style: S) -> S::State
    where
-        S: IntoStyle<Dom>;
+        S: IntoStyle;

    /// Adds an event listener to the element, at runtime.
    fn on<E>(
@@ -58,18 +58,17 @@ pub trait ElementExt {
 impl<T> ElementExt for T
 where
    T: AsRef<Element>,
-    Dom: DomRenderer,
 {
    fn attr<At>(&self, attribute: At) -> At::State
    where
-        At: Attribute<Dom>,
+        At: Attribute,
    {
        attribute.build(self.as_ref())
    }

    fn class<C>(&self, class: C) -> C::State
    where
-        C: IntoClass<Dom>,
+        C: IntoClass,
    {
        class.build(self.as_ref())
    }
@@ -84,12 +83,12 @@ where
        E::EventType: 'static,
        E::EventType: From<JsValue>,
    {
-        on::<E, _, Dom>(ev, cb).attach(self.as_ref())
+        on::<E, _>(ev, cb).attach(self.as_ref())
    }

    fn style<S>(&self, style: S) -> S::State
    where
-        S: IntoStyle<Dom>,
+        S: IntoStyle,
    {
        style.build(self.as_ref())
    }
--- a/tachys/src/html/element/elements.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/element/elements.rs
@@ -1,18 +1,12 @@
-#[cfg(feature = "sledgehammer")]
-use crate::renderer::sledgehammer::Sledgehammer;
 use crate::{
    html::{
        attribute::{Attr, Attribute, AttributeValue},
-        element::{
-            CreateElement, ElementType, ElementWithChildren, HtmlElement,
-        },
+        element::{ElementType, ElementWithChildren, HtmlElement},
    },
-    renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
    view::Render,
 };
 use next_tuple::NextTuple;
-use once_cell::unsync::Lazy;
-use std::{fmt::Debug, marker::PhantomData};
+use std::fmt::Debug;

 macro_rules! html_element_inner {
    (
@@ -26,15 +20,15 @@ macro_rules! html_element_inner {
        paste::paste! {
            #[$meta]
            #[track_caller]
-            pub fn $tag<Rndr>() -> HtmlElement<$struct_name, (), (), Rndr>
+            pub fn $tag() -> HtmlElement<$struct_name, (), ()>
            where
-                Rndr: Renderer
+
            {
                HtmlElement {
                    tag: $struct_name,
                    attributes: (),
                    children: (),
-                    rndr: PhantomData,
+
                }
            }

@@ -43,28 +37,28 @@ macro_rules! html_element_inner {
            pub struct $struct_name;

            // Typed attribute methods
-            impl<At, Ch, Rndr> HtmlElement<$struct_name, At, Ch, Rndr>
+            impl<At, Ch> HtmlElement<$struct_name, At, Ch>
            where
-                At: Attribute<Rndr>,
-                Ch: Render<Rndr>,
-                Rndr: Renderer,
+                At: Attribute,
+                Ch: Render,
+
            {
                $(
                    #[doc = concat!("The [`", stringify!($attr), "`](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/", stringify!($tag), "#", stringify!($attr) ,") attribute on `<", stringify!($tag), ">`.")]
                    pub fn $attr<V>(self, value: V) -> HtmlElement <
                        $struct_name,
-                        <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>,
-                        Ch, Rndr
+                        <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>,
+                        Ch
                    >
                    where
-                        V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
+                        V: AttributeValue,
                        At: NextTuple,
-                        <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>: Attribute<Rndr>,
+                        <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>: Attribute,
                    {
-                        let HtmlElement { tag, rndr, children, attributes } = self;
+                        let HtmlElement { tag, children, attributes } = self;
                        HtmlElement {
                            tag,
-                            rndr,
+
                            children,
                            attributes: attributes.next_tuple($crate::html::attribute::$attr(value)),
                        }
@@ -86,28 +80,6 @@ macro_rules! html_element_inner {
            }

            impl ElementWithChildren for $struct_name {}
-
-            impl CreateElement<Dom> for $struct_name {
-                #[track_caller]
-                #[cfg_attr(feature = "tracing", tracing::instrument(level = "trace", fields(callsite = std::panic::Location::caller().to_string())))]
-                fn create_element(&self) -> <Dom as Renderer>::Element {
-                    use wasm_bindgen::JsCast;
-
-                    thread_local! {
-                        static ELEMENT: Lazy<<Dom as Renderer>::Element> = Lazy::new(|| {
-                            crate::dom::document().create_element(stringify!($tag)).unwrap()
-                        });
-                    }
-                    ELEMENT.with(|e| e.clone_node()).unwrap().unchecked_into()
-                }
-            }
-
-            #[cfg(feature = "sledgehammer")]
-            impl CreateElement<Sledgehammer> for $struct_name {
-                fn create_element(&self) -> <Sledgehammer as Renderer>::Element {
-                    Sledgehammer::element(stringify!($tag))
-                }
-            }
        }
    };
 }
@@ -145,14 +117,14 @@ macro_rules! html_self_closing_elements {
        paste::paste! {
            $(
                #[$meta]
-                pub fn $tag<Rndr>() -> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], (), (), Rndr>
+                pub fn $tag() -> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], (), ()>
                where
-                    Rndr: Renderer
+
                {
                    HtmlElement {
                        attributes: (),
                        children: (),
-                        rndr: PhantomData,
+
                        tag: [<$tag:camel>],
                    }
                }
@@ -162,30 +134,29 @@ macro_rules! html_self_closing_elements {
                pub struct [<$tag:camel>];

                // Typed attribute methods
-                impl<At, Rndr> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], At, (), Rndr>
+                impl<At> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], At, ()>
                where
-                    At: Attribute<Rndr>,
-                    Rndr: Renderer,
+                    At: Attribute,
+
                {
                    $(
                        #[doc = concat!("The [`", stringify!($attr), "`](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/", stringify!($tag), "#", stringify!($attr) ,") attribute on `<", stringify!($tag), ">`.")]
                        pub fn $attr<V>(self, value: V) -> HtmlElement<
                            [<$tag:camel>],
-                            <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>,
+                            <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>,
                            (),
-                            Rndr
                        >
                        where
-                            V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
+                            V: AttributeValue,
                            At: NextTuple,
-                            <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>: Attribute<Rndr>,
+                            <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>: Attribute,

                        {
-                            let HtmlElement { tag, rndr, children, attributes,
+                            let HtmlElement { tag, children, attributes,
                            } = self;
                            HtmlElement {
                                tag,
-                                rndr,
+
                                children,
                                attributes: attributes.next_tuple($crate::html::attribute::$attr(value)),
                            }
@@ -205,19 +176,6 @@ macro_rules! html_self_closing_elements {
                        Self::TAG
                    }
                }
-
-                impl CreateElement<Dom> for [<$tag:camel>] {
-                    fn create_element(&self) -> <Dom as Renderer>::Element {
-                        use wasm_bindgen::JsCast;
-
-                        thread_local! {
-                            static ELEMENT: Lazy<<Dom as Renderer>::Element> = Lazy::new(|| {
-                                crate::dom::document().create_element(stringify!($tag)).unwrap()
-                            });
-                        }
-                        ELEMENT.with(|e| e.clone_node()).unwrap().unchecked_into()
-                    }
-                }
            )*
 		}
    }
--- a/tachys/src/html/element/inner_html.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/element/inner_html.rs
@@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
 use super::{ElementWithChildren, HtmlElement};
 use crate::{
    html::attribute::{Attribute, NextAttribute},
-    renderer::{DomRenderer, Renderer},
+    renderer::Rndr,
    view::add_attr::AddAnyAttr,
 };
-use std::{future::Future, marker::PhantomData, sync::Arc};
+use std::{future::Future, sync::Arc};

 /// Returns an [`Attribute`] that sets the inner HTML of an element.
 ///
@@ -15,47 +15,40 @@ use std::{future::Future, marker::PhantomData, sync::Arc};
 /// sanitize the input to avoid a cross-site scripting (XSS)
 /// vulnerability.
 #[inline(always)]
-pub fn inner_html<T, R>(value: T) -> InnerHtml<T, R>
+pub fn inner_html<T>(value: T) -> InnerHtml<T>
 where
-    T: InnerHtmlValue<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    T: InnerHtmlValue,
 {
-    InnerHtml {
-        value,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
-    }
+    InnerHtml { value }
 }

 /// Sets the inner HTML of an element.
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct InnerHtml<T, R> {
+pub struct InnerHtml<T> {
    value: T,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<T, R> Clone for InnerHtml<T, R>
+impl<T> Clone for InnerHtml<T>
 where
    T: Clone,
 {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        Self {
            value: self.value.clone(),
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> Attribute<R> for InnerHtml<T, R>
+impl<T> Attribute for InnerHtml<T>
 where
-    T: InnerHtmlValue<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    T: InnerHtmlValue,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;

-    type AsyncOutput = InnerHtml<T::AsyncOutput, R>;
+    type AsyncOutput = InnerHtml<T::AsyncOutput>;
    type State = T::State;
-    type Cloneable = InnerHtml<T::Cloneable, R>;
-    type CloneableOwned = InnerHtml<T::CloneableOwned, R>;
+    type Cloneable = InnerHtml<T::Cloneable>;
+    type CloneableOwned = InnerHtml<T::CloneableOwned>;

    fn html_len(&self) -> usize {
        self.value.html_len()
@@ -73,12 +66,12 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        self.value.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        self.value.build(el)
    }

@@ -89,14 +82,12 @@ where
    fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
        InnerHtml {
            value: self.value.into_cloneable(),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

    fn into_cloneable_owned(self) -> Self::CloneableOwned {
        InnerHtml {
            value: self.value.into_cloneable_owned(),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -107,19 +98,17 @@ where
    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
        InnerHtml {
            value: self.value.resolve().await,
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> NextAttribute<R> for InnerHtml<T, R>
+impl<T> NextAttribute for InnerHtml<T>
 where
-    T: InnerHtmlValue<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    T: InnerHtmlValue,
 {
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -128,11 +117,11 @@ where
 }

 /// Sets the inner HTML of an element.
-pub trait InnerHtmlAttribute<T, Rndr>
+pub trait InnerHtmlAttribute<T>
 where
-    T: InnerHtmlValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
-    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
+    T: InnerHtmlValue,
+
+    Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr,
 {
    /// Sets the inner HTML of this element.
    ///
@@ -145,38 +134,36 @@ where
    fn inner_html(
        self,
        value: T,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<InnerHtml<T, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<InnerHtml<T>> {
        self.add_any_attr(inner_html(value))
    }
 }

-impl<T, E, At, Rndr> InnerHtmlAttribute<T, Rndr>
-    for HtmlElement<E, At, (), Rndr>
+impl<T, E, At> InnerHtmlAttribute<T> for HtmlElement<E, At, ()>
 where
-    Self: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
+    Self: AddAnyAttr,
    E: ElementWithChildren,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr>,
-    T: InnerHtmlValue<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
+    At: Attribute,
+    T: InnerHtmlValue,
 {
    fn inner_html(
        self,
        value: T,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<InnerHtml<T, Rndr>> {
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<InnerHtml<T>> {
        self.add_any_attr(inner_html(value))
    }
 }

 /// A possible value for [`InnerHtml`].
-pub trait InnerHtmlValue<R: DomRenderer>: Send {
+pub trait InnerHtmlValue: Send {
    /// The type after all async data have resolved.
-    type AsyncOutput: InnerHtmlValue<R>;
+    type AsyncOutput: InnerHtmlValue;
    /// The view state retained between building and rebuilding.
    type State;
    /// An equivalent value that can be cloned.
-    type Cloneable: InnerHtmlValue<R> + Clone;
+    type Cloneable: InnerHtmlValue + Clone;
    /// An equivalent value that can be cloned and is `'static`.
-    type CloneableOwned: InnerHtmlValue<R> + Clone + 'static;
+    type CloneableOwned: InnerHtmlValue + Clone + 'static;

    /// The estimated length of the HTML.
    fn html_len(&self) -> usize;
@@ -189,10 +176,13 @@ pub trait InnerHtmlValue<R: DomRenderer>: Send {

    /// Adds interactivity as necessary, given DOM nodes that were created from HTML that has
    /// either been rendered on the server, or cloned for a `<template>`.
-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State;
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State;

    /// Adds this class to the element during client-side rendering.
-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State;
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State;

    /// Updates the value.
    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State);
@@ -212,12 +202,9 @@ pub trait InnerHtmlValue<R: DomRenderer>: Send {
    fn resolve(self) -> impl Future<Output = Self::AsyncOutput> + Send;
 }

-impl<R> InnerHtmlValue<R> for String
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl InnerHtmlValue for String {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Self);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Self);
    type Cloneable = Arc<str>;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -233,22 +220,22 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_inner_html(el, &self);
+            Rndr::set_inner_html(el, &self);
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_inner_html(el, &self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_inner_html(el, &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        if self != state.1 {
-            R::set_inner_html(&state.0, &self);
+            Rndr::set_inner_html(&state.0, &self);
            state.1 = self;
        }
    }
@@ -268,12 +255,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> InnerHtmlValue<R> for Arc<str>
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl InnerHtmlValue for Arc<str> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Self);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Self);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -289,22 +273,22 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_inner_html(el, &self);
+            Rndr::set_inner_html(el, &self);
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_inner_html(el, &self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_inner_html(el, &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        if !Arc::ptr_eq(&self, &state.1) {
-            R::set_inner_html(&state.0, &self);
+            Rndr::set_inner_html(&state.0, &self);
            state.1 = self;
        }
    }
@@ -324,12 +308,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<'a, R> InnerHtmlValue<R> for &'a str
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl<'a> InnerHtmlValue for &'a str {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Self);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Self);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -345,22 +326,22 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_inner_html(el, self);
+            Rndr::set_inner_html(el, self);
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_inner_html(el, self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_inner_html(el, self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        if self != state.1 {
-            R::set_inner_html(&state.0, self);
+            Rndr::set_inner_html(&state.0, self);
            state.1 = self;
        }
    }
@@ -380,13 +361,12 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> InnerHtmlValue<R> for Option<T>
+impl<T> InnerHtmlValue for Option<T>
 where
-    T: InnerHtmlValue<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    T: InnerHtmlValue,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Option<T::State>);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Option<T::State>);
    type Cloneable = Option<T::Cloneable>;
    type CloneableOwned = Option<T::CloneableOwned>;

@@ -407,12 +387,12 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        (el.clone(), self.map(|n| n.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)))
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        (el.clone(), self.map(|n| n.build(el)))
    }

@@ -420,7 +400,7 @@ where
        let new_state = match (self, &mut state.1) {
            (None, None) => None,
            (None, Some(_)) => {
-                R::set_inner_html(&state.0, "");
+                Rndr::set_inner_html(&state.0, "");
                Some(None)
            }
            (Some(new), None) => Some(Some(new.build(&state.0))),
--- a/tachys/src/html/element/mod.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/element/mod.rs
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 use crate::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
    hydration::Cursor,
-    renderer::{CastFrom, Renderer},
+    renderer::{CastFrom, Rndr},
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{
        add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@ use const_str_slice_concat::{
 };
 use futures::future::join;
 use next_tuple::NextTuple;
-use std::{marker::PhantomData, ops::Deref};
+use std::ops::Deref;

 mod custom;
 mod element_ext;
@@ -27,29 +27,26 @@ pub use inner_html::*;

 /// The typed representation of an HTML element.
 #[derive(Debug, PartialEq, Eq)]
-pub struct HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr> {
+pub struct HtmlElement<E, At, Ch> {
    pub(crate) tag: E,
-    pub(crate) rndr: PhantomData<Rndr>,
    pub(crate) attributes: At,
    pub(crate) children: Ch,
 }

-impl<E: Clone, At: Clone, Ch: Clone, Rndr> Clone
-    for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
-{
+impl<E: Clone, At: Clone, Ch: Clone> Clone for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch> {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        HtmlElement {
            tag: self.tag.clone(),
-            rndr: PhantomData,
+
            attributes: self.attributes.clone(),
            children: self.children.clone(),
        }
    }
 }

-impl<E: Copy, At: Copy, Ch: Copy, Rndr> Copy for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr> {}
+impl<E: Copy, At: Copy, Ch: Copy> Copy for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch> {}

-/*impl<E, At, Ch, Rndr> ElementType for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+/*impl<E, At, Ch> ElementType for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
    E: ElementType,
 {
@@ -64,48 +61,42 @@ where
    }
 }*/

-impl<E, At, Ch, NewChild, Rndr> ElementChild<Rndr, NewChild>
-    for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch, NewChild> ElementChild<NewChild> for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
    E: ElementWithChildren,
-    Ch: Render<Rndr> + NextTuple,
-    <Ch as NextTuple>::Output<NewChild>: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-    NewChild: Render<Rndr>,
+    Ch: Render + NextTuple,
+    <Ch as NextTuple>::Output<NewChild>: Render,
+
+    NewChild: Render,
 {
-    type Output = HtmlElement<E, At, <Ch as NextTuple>::Output<NewChild>, Rndr>;
+    type Output = HtmlElement<E, At, <Ch as NextTuple>::Output<NewChild>>;

    fn child(self, child: NewChild) -> Self::Output {
        let HtmlElement {
            tag,
-            rndr,
+
            attributes,
            children,
        } = self;
        HtmlElement {
            tag,
-            rndr,
+
            attributes,
            children: children.next_tuple(child),
        }
    }
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch> AddAnyAttr for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    E: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = HtmlElement<
-        E,
-        <At as NextAttribute<Rndr>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>,
-        Ch,
-        Rndr,
-    >;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        HtmlElement<E, <At as NextAttribute>::Output<SomeNewAttr>, Ch>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -113,22 +104,19 @@ where
            tag,
            attributes,
            children,
-            rndr,
        } = self;
        HtmlElement {
            tag,
            attributes: attributes.add_any_attr(attr),
            children,
-            rndr,
        }
    }
 }

 /// Adds a child to the element.
-pub trait ElementChild<Rndr, NewChild>
+pub trait ElementChild<NewChild>
 where
-    NewChild: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    NewChild: Render,
 {
    /// The type of the element, with the child added.
    type Output;
@@ -163,27 +151,20 @@ pub trait HasElementType {

 pub(crate) trait ElementWithChildren {}

-/// Creates an element.
-pub trait CreateElement<R: Renderer> {
-    /// Creates an element.
-    fn create_element(&self) -> R::Element;
-}
-
-impl<E, At, Ch, Rndr> HasElementType for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch> HasElementType for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
    E: ElementType,
 {
    type ElementType = E::Output;
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch, Rndr> Render<Rndr> for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch> Render for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr>,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr>,
-    Ch: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    E: ElementType,
+    At: Attribute,
+    Ch: Render,
 {
-    type State = ElementState<At::State, Ch::State, Rndr>;
+    type State = ElementState<At::State, Ch::State>;

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let ElementState {
@@ -196,7 +177,7 @@ where
    }

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        let el = Rndr::create_element(self.tag);
+        let el = Rndr::create_element(self.tag.tag());

        let attrs = self.attributes.build(&el);
        let children = if E::SELF_CLOSING {
@@ -210,19 +191,17 @@ where
            el,
            attrs,
            children,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch> RenderHtml for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
-    E: ElementType + CreateElement<Rndr> + Send,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + Send,
-    Ch: RenderHtml<Rndr> + Send,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    E: ElementType + Send,
+    At: Attribute + Send,
+    Ch: RenderHtml + Send,
 {
-    type AsyncOutput = HtmlElement<E, At::AsyncOutput, Ch::AsyncOutput, Rndr>;
+    type AsyncOutput = HtmlElement<E, At::AsyncOutput, Ch::AsyncOutput>;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = if E::SELF_CLOSING {
        3 // < ... />
@@ -247,7 +226,7 @@ where
            join(self.attributes.resolve(), self.children.resolve()).await;
        HtmlElement {
            tag: self.tag,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
+
            attributes,
            children,
        }
@@ -350,7 +329,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        // non-Static custom elements need special support in templates
@@ -365,7 +344,8 @@ where
        } else if curr_position != Position::Current {
            cursor.sibling();
        }
-        let el = Rndr::Element::cast_from(cursor.current()).unwrap();
+        let el = crate::renderer::types::Element::cast_from(cursor.current())
+            .unwrap();

        let attrs = self.attributes.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(&el);

@@ -378,23 +358,26 @@ where
        };

        // go to next sibling
-        cursor.set(el.as_ref().clone());
+        cursor.set(
+            <crate::renderer::types::Element as AsRef<
+                crate::renderer::types::Node,
+            >>::as_ref(&el)
+            .clone(),
+        );
        position.set(Position::NextChild);

        ElementState {
            el,
            attrs,
            children,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

 /// Renders an [`Attribute`] (which can be one or more HTML attributes) into an HTML buffer.
-pub fn attributes_to_html<At, R>(attr: At, buf: &mut String) -> String
+pub fn attributes_to_html<At>(attr: At, buf: &mut String) -> String
 where
-    At: Attribute<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    At: Attribute,
 {
    // `class` and `style` are created first, and pushed later
    // this is because they can be filled by a mixture of values that include
@@ -429,36 +412,38 @@ where
 }

 /// The retained view state for an HTML element.
-pub struct ElementState<At, Ch, R: Renderer> {
-    pub(crate) el: R::Element,
+pub struct ElementState<At, Ch> {
+    pub(crate) el: crate::renderer::types::Element,
    pub(crate) attrs: At,
    pub(crate) children: Option<Ch>,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<At, Ch, R: Renderer> Deref for ElementState<At, Ch, R> {
-    type Target = R::Element;
+impl<At, Ch> Deref for ElementState<At, Ch> {
+    type Target = crate::renderer::types::Element;

    fn deref(&self) -> &Self::Target {
        &self.el
    }
 }

-impl<At, Ch, R> Mountable<R> for ElementState<At, Ch, R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl<At, Ch> Mountable for ElementState<At, Ch> {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
-        R::remove(self.el.as_ref());
+        Rndr::remove(self.el.as_ref());
    }

-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &R::Element, marker: Option<&R::Node>) {
-        R::insert_node(parent, self.el.as_ref(), marker);
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
+        Rndr::insert_node(parent, self.el.as_ref(), marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
-        if let Some(parent) = R::get_parent(self.el.as_ref()) {
-            if let Some(element) = R::Element::cast_from(parent) {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
+        if let Some(parent) = Rndr::get_parent(self.el.as_ref()) {
+            if let Some(element) =
+                crate::renderer::types::Element::cast_from(parent)
+            {
                child.mount(&element, Some(self.el.as_ref()));
                return true;
            }
@@ -467,12 +452,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch, Rndr> ToTemplate for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch> ToTemplate for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
    E: ElementType,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr> + ToTemplate,
-    Ch: Render<Rndr> + ToTemplate,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    At: Attribute + ToTemplate,
+    Ch: Render + ToTemplate,
 {
    const TEMPLATE: &'static str = str_from_buffer(&const_concat(&[
        "<",
@@ -555,7 +539,7 @@ where
        }
    }
 }
-
+/*
 #[cfg(all(test, feature = "testing"))]
 mod tests {
    #[cfg(feature = "nightly")]
@@ -614,3 +598,4 @@ mod tests {
        assert_eq!(html.len(), allocated_len);
    }
 }
+ */
--- a/tachys/src/html/event.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/event.rs
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 use crate::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
-    renderer::{CastFrom, DomRenderer, RemoveEventHandler},
+    renderer::{CastFrom, RemoveEventHandler, Rndr},
    view::{Position, ToTemplate},
 };
 use send_wrapper::SendWrapper;
@@ -51,13 +51,12 @@ where
 }

 /// An event listener with a typed event target.
-pub struct Targeted<E, T, R> {
+pub struct Targeted<E, T> {
    event: E,
    el_ty: PhantomData<T>,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<E, T, R> Targeted<E, T, R> {
+impl<E, T> Targeted<E, T> {
    /// Returns the inner event.
    pub fn into_inner(self) -> E {
        self.event
@@ -66,17 +65,17 @@ impl<E, T, R> Targeted<E, T, R> {
    /// Returns the event's target, as an HTML element of the correct type.
    pub fn target(&self) -> T
    where
-        T: CastFrom<R::Element>,
-        R: DomRenderer,
-        R::Event: From<E>,
+        T: CastFrom<crate::renderer::types::Element>,
+
+        crate::renderer::types::Event: From<E>,
        E: Clone,
    {
-        let ev = R::Event::from(self.event.clone());
-        R::event_target(&ev)
+        let ev = crate::renderer::types::Event::from(self.event.clone());
+        Rndr::event_target(&ev)
    }
 }

-impl<E, T, R> Deref for Targeted<E, T, R> {
+impl<E, T> Deref for Targeted<E, T> {
    type Target = E;

    fn deref(&self) -> &Self::Target {
@@ -84,64 +83,60 @@ impl<E, T, R> Deref for Targeted<E, T, R> {
    }
 }

-impl<E, T, R> DerefMut for Targeted<E, T, R> {
+impl<E, T> DerefMut for Targeted<E, T> {
    fn deref_mut(&mut self) -> &mut Self::Target {
        &mut self.event
    }
 }

-impl<E, T, R> From<E> for Targeted<E, T, R> {
+impl<E, T> From<E> for Targeted<E, T> {
    fn from(event: E) -> Self {
        Targeted {
            event,
            el_ty: PhantomData,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

 /// Creates an [`Attribute`] that will add an event listener to an element.
-pub fn on<E, F, R>(event: E, cb: F) -> On<E, F, R>
+pub fn on<E, F>(event: E, cb: F) -> On<E, F>
 where
    F: FnMut(E::EventType) + 'static,
    E: EventDescriptor + Send + 'static,
    E::EventType: 'static,
-    E::EventType: From<R::Event>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    E::EventType: From<crate::renderer::types::Event>,
 {
    On {
        event,
        cb: Some(SendWrapper::new(cb)),
-        ty: PhantomData,
    }
 }

 /// Creates an [`Attribute`] that will add an event listener with a typed target to an element.
 #[allow(clippy::type_complexity)]
-pub fn on_target<E, T, R, F>(
+pub fn on_target<E, T, F>(
    event: E,
    mut cb: F,
-) -> On<E, Box<dyn FnMut(E::EventType)>, R>
+) -> On<E, Box<dyn FnMut(E::EventType)>>
 where
    T: HasElementType,
-    F: FnMut(Targeted<E::EventType, <T as HasElementType>::ElementType, R>)
+    F: FnMut(Targeted<E::EventType, <T as HasElementType>::ElementType>)
        + 'static,
    E: EventDescriptor + Send + 'static,
    E::EventType: 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
-    E::EventType: From<R::Event>,
+
+    E::EventType: From<crate::renderer::types::Event>,
 {
    on(event, Box::new(move |ev: E::EventType| cb(ev.into())))
 }

 /// An [`Attribute`] that adds an event listener to an element.
-pub struct On<E, F, R> {
+pub struct On<E, F> {
    event: E,
    cb: Option<SendWrapper<F>>,
-    ty: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<E, F, R> Clone for On<E, F, R>
+impl<E, F> Clone for On<E, F>
 where
    E: Clone,
    F: Clone,
@@ -150,30 +145,33 @@ where
        Self {
            event: self.event.clone(),
            cb: self.cb.clone(),
-            ty: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<E, F, R> On<E, F, R>
+impl<E, F> On<E, F>
 where
    F: EventCallback<E::EventType>,
    E: EventDescriptor + Send + 'static,
    E::EventType: 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
-    E::EventType: From<R::Event>,
+    E::EventType: From<crate::renderer::types::Event>,
 {
    /// Attaches the event listener to the element.
-    pub fn attach(self, el: &R::Element) -> RemoveEventHandler<R::Element> {
-        fn attach_inner<R: DomRenderer>(
-            el: &R::Element,
-            cb: Box<dyn FnMut(R::Event)>,
+    pub fn attach(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> RemoveEventHandler<crate::renderer::types::Element> {
+        fn attach_inner(
+            el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+            cb: Box<dyn FnMut(crate::renderer::types::Event)>,
            name: Cow<'static, str>,
            delegation_key: Option<Cow<'static, str>>,
-        ) -> RemoveEventHandler<R::Element> {
+        ) -> RemoveEventHandler<crate::renderer::types::Element> {
            match delegation_key {
-                None => R::add_event_listener(el, &name, cb),
-                Some(key) => R::add_event_listener_delegated(el, name, key, cb),
+                None => Rndr::add_event_listener(el, &name, cb),
+                Some(key) => {
+                    Rndr::add_event_listener_delegated(el, name, key, cb)
+                }
            }
        }

@@ -182,7 +180,7 @@ where
        #[cfg(feature = "tracing")]
        let span = tracing::Span::current();

-        let cb = Box::new(move |ev: R::Event| {
+        let cb = Box::new(move |ev: crate::renderer::types::Event| {
            #[cfg(all(debug_assertions, feature = "reactive_graph"))]
            let _rx_guard =
                reactive_graph::diagnostics::SpecialNonReactiveZone::enter();
@@ -191,9 +189,9 @@ where

            let ev = E::EventType::from(ev);
            cb.invoke(ev);
-        }) as Box<dyn FnMut(R::Event)>;
+        }) as Box<dyn FnMut(crate::renderer::types::Event)>;

-        attach_inner::<R>(
+        attach_inner(
            el,
            cb,
            self.event.name(),
@@ -203,30 +201,32 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<E, F, R> Debug for On<E, F, R>
+impl<E, F> Debug for On<E, F>
 where
    E: Debug,
-    R: DomRenderer,
 {
    fn fmt(&self, f: &mut std::fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
        f.debug_tuple("On").field(&self.event).finish()
    }
 }

-impl<E, F, R> Attribute<R> for On<E, F, R>
+impl<E, F> Attribute for On<E, F>
 where
    F: EventCallback<E::EventType>,
    E: EventDescriptor + Send + 'static,
    E::EventType: 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
-    E::EventType: From<R::Event>,
+
+    E::EventType: From<crate::renderer::types::Event>,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
    // a function that can be called once to remove the event listener
-    type State = (R::Element, Option<RemoveEventHandler<R::Element>>);
-    type Cloneable = On<E, SharedEventCallback<E::EventType>, R>;
-    type CloneableOwned = On<E, SharedEventCallback<E::EventType>, R>;
+    type State = (
+        crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        Option<RemoveEventHandler<crate::renderer::types::Element>>,
+    );
+    type Cloneable = On<E, SharedEventCallback<E::EventType>>;
+    type CloneableOwned = On<E, SharedEventCallback<E::EventType>>;

    #[inline(always)]
    fn html_len(&self) -> usize {
@@ -244,13 +244,16 @@ where
    }

    #[inline(always)]
-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        let cleanup = self.attach(el);
        (el.clone(), Some(cleanup))
    }

    #[inline(always)]
-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let cleanup = self.attach(el);
        (el.clone(), Some(cleanup))
    }
@@ -268,7 +271,6 @@ where
        On {
            cb: self.cb.map(|cb| SendWrapper::new(cb.take().into_shared())),
            event: self.event,
-            ty: self.ty,
        }
    }

@@ -276,7 +278,6 @@ where
        On {
            cb: self.cb.map(|cb| SendWrapper::new(cb.take().into_shared())),
            event: self.event,
-            ty: self.ty,
        }
    }

@@ -293,17 +294,17 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<E, F, R> NextAttribute<R> for On<E, F, R>
+impl<E, F> NextAttribute for On<E, F>
 where
    F: EventCallback<E::EventType>,
    E: EventDescriptor + Send + 'static,
    E::EventType: 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
-    E::EventType: From<R::Event>,
-{
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    E::EventType: From<crate::renderer::types::Event>,
+{
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);
+
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -311,7 +312,7 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<E, F, R> ToTemplate for On<E, F, R> {
+impl<E, F> ToTemplate for On<E, F> {
    #[inline(always)]
    fn to_template(
        _buf: &mut String,
@@ -404,9 +405,9 @@ impl<E: FromWasmAbi> Custom<E> {
    /// # use tachys::prelude::*;
    /// # use tachys::html;
    /// # use tachys::html::event as ev;
-    /// # fn custom_event() -> impl Render<Dom> {
+    /// # fn custom_event() -> impl Render {
    /// let mut non_passive_wheel = ev::Custom::new("wheel");
-    /// non_passive_wheel.options_mut().passive(false);
+    /// non_passive_wheel.options_mut().set_passive(false);
    ///
    /// let canvas =
    ///     html::element::canvas().on(non_passive_wheel, |e: ev::WheelEvent| {
--- a/tachys/src/html/islands.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/islands.rs
@@ -2,30 +2,26 @@ use super::attribute::Attribute;
 use crate::{
    hydration::Cursor,
    prelude::{Render, RenderHtml},
-    renderer::Renderer,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Position, PositionState},
 };
-use std::marker::PhantomData;

 /// An island of interactivity in an otherwise-inert HTML document.
-pub struct Island<Rndr, View> {
+pub struct Island<View> {
    component: &'static str,
    props_json: String,
    view: View,
-    rndr: PhantomData<Rndr>,
 }
 const ISLAND_TAG: &str = "leptos-island";
 const ISLAND_CHILDREN_TAG: &str = "leptos-children";

-impl<Rndr, View> Island<Rndr, View> {
+impl<View> Island<View> {
    /// Creates a new island with the given component name.
    pub fn new(component: &'static str, view: View) -> Self {
        Island {
            component,
            props_json: String::new(),
            view,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }

@@ -57,10 +53,9 @@ impl<Rndr, View> Island<Rndr, View> {
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr, View> Render<Rndr> for Island<Rndr, View>
+impl<View> Render for Island<View>
 where
-    View: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    View: Render,
 {
    type State = View::State;

@@ -73,42 +68,38 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr, View> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for Island<Rndr, View>
+impl<View> AddAnyAttr for Island<View>
 where
-    View: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    View: RenderHtml,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> =
-        Island<Rndr, <View as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        Island<<View as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let Island {
            component,
            props_json,
            view,
-            rndr,
        } = self;
        Island {
            component,
            props_json,
            view: view.add_any_attr(attr),
-            rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr, View> RenderHtml<Rndr> for Island<Rndr, View>
+impl<View> RenderHtml for Island<View>
 where
-    View: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    View: RenderHtml,
 {
-    type AsyncOutput = Island<Rndr, View::AsyncOutput>;
+    type AsyncOutput = Island<View::AsyncOutput>;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = ISLAND_TAG.len() * 2
        + "<>".len()
@@ -125,13 +116,11 @@ where
            component,
            props_json,
            view,
-            rndr,
        } = self;
        Island {
            component,
            props_json,
            view: view.resolve().await,
-            rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -178,7 +167,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        if position.get() == Position::FirstChild {
@@ -192,18 +181,14 @@ where
 }

 /// The children that will be projected into an [`Island`].
-pub struct IslandChildren<Rndr, View> {
+pub struct IslandChildren<View> {
    view: View,
-    rndr: PhantomData<Rndr>,
 }

-impl<Rndr, View> IslandChildren<Rndr, View> {
+impl<View> IslandChildren<View> {
    /// Creates a new representation of the children.
    pub fn new(view: View) -> Self {
-        IslandChildren {
-            view,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
-        }
+        IslandChildren { view }
    }

    fn open_tag(buf: &mut String) {
@@ -219,10 +204,9 @@ impl<Rndr, View> IslandChildren<Rndr, View> {
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr, View> Render<Rndr> for IslandChildren<Rndr, View>
+impl<View> Render for IslandChildren<View>
 where
-    View: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    View: Render,
 {
    type State = ();

@@ -231,35 +215,32 @@ where
    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
 }

-impl<Rndr, View> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for IslandChildren<Rndr, View>
+impl<View> AddAnyAttr for IslandChildren<View>
 where
-    View: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    View: RenderHtml,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> =
-        IslandChildren<Rndr, <View as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        IslandChildren<<View as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
-        let IslandChildren { view, rndr } = self;
+        let IslandChildren { view } = self;
        IslandChildren {
            view: view.add_any_attr(attr),
-            rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr, View> RenderHtml<Rndr> for IslandChildren<Rndr, View>
+impl<View> RenderHtml for IslandChildren<View>
 where
-    View: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    View: RenderHtml,
 {
-    type AsyncOutput = IslandChildren<Rndr, View::AsyncOutput>;
+    type AsyncOutput = IslandChildren<View::AsyncOutput>;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = ISLAND_CHILDREN_TAG.len() * 2
        + "<>".len()
@@ -271,10 +252,9 @@ where
    }

    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
-        let IslandChildren { view, rndr } = self;
+        let IslandChildren { view } = self;
        IslandChildren {
            view: view.resolve().await,
-            rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -321,7 +301,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        // island children aren't hydrated
--- a/tachys/src/html/mod.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/mod.rs
@@ -3,10 +3,10 @@ use crate::{
    hydration::Cursor,
    no_attrs,
    prelude::AddAnyAttr,
-    renderer::{CastFrom, DomRenderer, Renderer},
+    renderer::{CastFrom, Rndr},
    view::{Position, PositionState, Render, RenderHtml},
 };
-use std::{borrow::Cow, marker::PhantomData};
+use std::borrow::Cow;

 /// Types for HTML attributes.
 pub mod attribute;
@@ -28,20 +28,16 @@ pub mod property;
 pub mod style;

 /// A `<!DOCTYPE>` declaration.
-pub struct Doctype<R: Renderer> {
+pub struct Doctype {
    value: &'static str,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

 /// Creates a `<!DOCTYPE>`.
-pub fn doctype<R: Renderer>(value: &'static str) -> Doctype<R> {
-    Doctype {
-        value,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
-    }
+pub fn doctype(value: &'static str) -> Doctype {
+    Doctype { value }
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for Doctype<R> {
+impl Render for Doctype {
    type State = ();

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {}
@@ -49,12 +45,9 @@ impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for Doctype<R> {
    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
 }

-no_attrs!(Doctype<R>);
+no_attrs!(Doctype);

-impl<R> RenderHtml<R> for Doctype<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer + Send,
-{
+impl RenderHtml for Doctype {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = "<!DOCTYPE html>".len();
@@ -79,7 +72,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        _cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        _cursor: &Cursor,
        _position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
    }
@@ -97,11 +90,8 @@ impl InertElement {
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr> Render<Rndr> for InertElement
-where
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
-{
-    type State = Rndr::Element;
+impl Render for InertElement {
+    type State = crate::renderer::types::Element;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        Rndr::create_element_from_html(&self.html)
@@ -110,18 +100,15 @@ where
    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
 }

-impl<Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for InertElement
-where
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
-{
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = Self;
+impl AddAnyAttr for InertElement {
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = Self;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        _attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        panic!(
            "InertElement does not support adding attributes. It should only \
@@ -130,10 +117,7 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for InertElement
-where
-    Rndr: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl RenderHtml for InertElement {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
@@ -161,7 +145,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let curr_position = position.get();
@@ -170,7 +154,8 @@ where
        } else if curr_position != Position::Current {
            cursor.sibling();
        }
-        let el = Rndr::Element::cast_from(cursor.current()).unwrap();
+        let el = crate::renderer::types::Element::cast_from(cursor.current())
+            .unwrap();
        position.set(Position::NextChild);
        el
    }
--- a/tachys/src/html/node_ref.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/node_ref.rs
@@ -3,30 +3,27 @@ use super::{
    element::ElementType,
 };
 use crate::{
-    html::element::HtmlElement, prelude::Render, renderer::Renderer,
-    view::add_attr::AddAnyAttr,
+    html::element::HtmlElement, prelude::Render, view::add_attr::AddAnyAttr,
 };
 use std::marker::PhantomData;

 /// Describes a container that can be used to hold a reference to an HTML element.
-pub trait NodeRefContainer<E, Rndr>: Send + Clone
+pub trait NodeRefContainer<E>: Send + Clone
 where
    E: ElementType,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    /// Fills the container with the element.
-    fn load(self, el: &Rndr::Element);
+    fn load(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element);
 }

 /// An [`Attribute`] that will fill a [`NodeRefContainer`] with an HTML element.
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct NodeRefAttr<E, C, Rndr> {
+pub struct NodeRefAttr<E, C> {
    container: C,
    ty: PhantomData<E>,
-    rndr: PhantomData<Rndr>,
 }

-impl<E, C, Rndr> Clone for NodeRefAttr<E, C, Rndr>
+impl<E, C> Clone for NodeRefAttr<E, C>
 where
    C: Clone,
 {
@@ -34,35 +31,32 @@ where
        Self {
            container: self.container.clone(),
            ty: PhantomData,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

 /// Creates an attribute that will fill a [`NodeRefContainer`] with the element it is applied to.
-pub fn node_ref<E, C, Rndr>(container: C) -> NodeRefAttr<E, C, Rndr>
+pub fn node_ref<E, C>(container: C) -> NodeRefAttr<E, C>
 where
    E: ElementType,
-    C: NodeRefContainer<E, Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    C: NodeRefContainer<E>,
 {
    NodeRefAttr {
        container,
        ty: PhantomData,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
    }
 }

-impl<E, C, Rndr> Attribute<Rndr> for NodeRefAttr<E, C, Rndr>
+impl<E, C> Attribute for NodeRefAttr<E, C>
 where
    E: ElementType,
-    C: NodeRefContainer<E, Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-    Rndr::Element: PartialEq,
+    C: NodeRefContainer<E>,
+
+    crate::renderer::types::Element: PartialEq,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = Rndr::Element;
+    type State = crate::renderer::types::Element;
    type Cloneable = ();
    type CloneableOwned = ();

@@ -82,13 +76,13 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<Rndr as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        self.container.load(el);
        el.to_owned()
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<Rndr as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        self.container.load(el);
        el.to_owned()
    }
@@ -112,16 +106,16 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<E, C, Rndr> NextAttribute<Rndr> for NodeRefAttr<E, C, Rndr>
+impl<E, C> NextAttribute for NodeRefAttr<E, C>
 where
    E: ElementType,
-    C: NodeRefContainer<E, Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-    Rndr::Element: PartialEq,
-{
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+    C: NodeRefContainer<E>,

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    crate::renderer::types::Element: PartialEq,
+{
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);
+
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -130,35 +124,33 @@ where
 }

 /// Adds the `node_ref` attribute to an element.
-pub trait NodeRefAttribute<E, C, Rndr>
+pub trait NodeRefAttribute<E, C>
 where
    E: ElementType,
-    C: NodeRefContainer<E, Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-    Rndr::Element: PartialEq,
+    C: NodeRefContainer<E>,
+
+    crate::renderer::types::Element: PartialEq,
 {
    /// Binds this HTML element to a [`NodeRefContainer`].
    fn node_ref(
        self,
        container: C,
-    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<NodeRefAttr<E, C, Rndr>>
+    ) -> <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<NodeRefAttr<E, C>>
    where
-        Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-        <Self as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<NodeRefAttr<E, C, Rndr>>:
-            Render<Rndr>,
+        Self: Sized + AddAnyAttr,
+        <Self as AddAnyAttr>::Output<NodeRefAttr<E, C>>: Render,
    {
        self.add_any_attr(node_ref(container))
    }
 }

-impl<E, At, Ch, C, Rndr> NodeRefAttribute<E, C, Rndr>
-    for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch, Rndr>
+impl<E, At, Ch, C> NodeRefAttribute<E, C> for HtmlElement<E, At, Ch>
 where
    E: ElementType,
-    At: Attribute<Rndr>,
-    Ch: Render<Rndr>,
-    C: NodeRefContainer<E, Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-    Rndr::Element: PartialEq,
+    At: Attribute,
+    Ch: Render,
+    C: NodeRefContainer<E>,
+
+    crate::renderer::types::Element: PartialEq,
 {
 }
--- a/tachys/src/html/property.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/property.rs
@@ -1,37 +1,34 @@
 use super::attribute::{Attribute, NextAttribute};
 use crate::{
-    renderer::DomRenderer,
+    renderer::Rndr,
    view::{Position, ToTemplate},
 };
 use send_wrapper::SendWrapper;
-use std::{borrow::Cow, marker::PhantomData, sync::Arc};
+use std::{borrow::Cow, sync::Arc};
 use wasm_bindgen::JsValue;

 /// Creates an [`Attribute`] that will set a DOM property on an element.
 #[inline(always)]
-pub fn prop<K, P, R>(key: K, value: P) -> Property<K, P, R>
+pub fn prop<K, P>(key: K, value: P) -> Property<K, P>
 where
    K: AsRef<str>,
-    P: IntoProperty<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    P: IntoProperty,
 {
    Property {
        key,
        value: Some(SendWrapper::new(value)),
-        rndr: PhantomData,
    }
 }

 /// An [`Attribute`] that will set a DOM property on an element.
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct Property<K, P, R> {
+pub struct Property<K, P> {
    key: K,
    // property values will only be accessed in the browser
    value: Option<SendWrapper<P>>,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<K, P, R> Clone for Property<K, P, R>
+impl<K, P> Clone for Property<K, P>
 where
    K: Clone,
    P: Clone,
@@ -40,23 +37,21 @@ where
        Self {
            key: self.key.clone(),
            value: self.value.clone(),
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<K, P, R> Attribute<R> for Property<K, P, R>
+impl<K, P> Attribute for Property<K, P>
 where
    K: AsRef<str> + Send,
-    P: IntoProperty<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    P: IntoProperty,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;

    type AsyncOutput = Self;
    type State = P::State;
-    type Cloneable = Property<Arc<str>, P::Cloneable, R>;
-    type CloneableOwned = Property<Arc<str>, P::CloneableOwned, R>;
+    type Cloneable = Property<Arc<str>, P::Cloneable>;
+    type CloneableOwned = Property<Arc<str>, P::CloneableOwned>;

    #[inline(always)]
    fn html_len(&self) -> usize {
@@ -72,14 +67,17 @@ where
    ) {
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        self.value
            .expect("property removed early")
            .take()
            .hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el, self.key.as_ref())
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        self.value
            .expect("property removed early")
            .take()
@@ -99,7 +97,6 @@ where
            value: self
                .value
                .map(|value| SendWrapper::new(value.take().into_cloneable())),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -109,7 +106,6 @@ where
            value: self.value.map(|value| {
                SendWrapper::new(value.take().into_cloneable_owned())
            }),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -126,15 +122,14 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<K, P, R> NextAttribute<R> for Property<K, P, R>
+impl<K, P> NextAttribute for Property<K, P>
 where
    K: AsRef<str> + Send,
-    P: IntoProperty<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    P: IntoProperty,
 {
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -142,11 +137,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<K, P, R> ToTemplate for Property<K, P, R>
+impl<K, P> ToTemplate for Property<K, P>
 where
    K: AsRef<str>,
-    P: IntoProperty<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    P: IntoProperty,
 {
    fn to_template(
        _buf: &mut String,
@@ -159,23 +153,27 @@ where
 }

 /// A possible value for a DOM property.
-pub trait IntoProperty<R: DomRenderer> {
+pub trait IntoProperty {
    /// The view state retained between building and rebuilding.
    type State;
    /// An equivalent value that can be cloned.
-    type Cloneable: IntoProperty<R> + Clone;
+    type Cloneable: IntoProperty + Clone;
    /// An equivalent value that can be cloned and is `'static`.
-    type CloneableOwned: IntoProperty<R> + Clone + 'static;
+    type CloneableOwned: IntoProperty + Clone + 'static;

    /// Adds the property on an element created from HTML.
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
        key: &str,
    ) -> Self::State;

    /// Adds the property during client-side rendering.
-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State;
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State;

    /// Updates the property with a new value.
    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State, key: &str);
@@ -189,34 +187,35 @@ pub trait IntoProperty<R: DomRenderer> {

 macro_rules! prop_type {
    ($prop_type:ty) => {
-        impl<R> IntoProperty<R> for $prop_type
-        where
-            R: DomRenderer,
-        {
-            type State = (R::Element, JsValue);
+        impl IntoProperty for $prop_type {
+            type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, JsValue);
            type Cloneable = Self;
            type CloneableOwned = Self;

            fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                self,
-                el: &R::Element,
+                el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                key: &str,
            ) -> Self::State {
                let value = self.into();
-                R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                (el.clone(), value)
            }

-            fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+            fn build(
+                self,
+                el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                key: &str,
+            ) -> Self::State {
                let value = self.into();
-                R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                (el.clone(), value)
            }

            fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State, key: &str) {
                let (el, prev) = state;
                let value = self.into();
-                R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                *prev = value;
            }

@@ -229,32 +228,33 @@ macro_rules! prop_type {
            }
        }

-        impl<R> IntoProperty<R> for Option<$prop_type>
-        where
-            R: DomRenderer,
-        {
-            type State = (R::Element, JsValue);
+        impl IntoProperty for Option<$prop_type> {
+            type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, JsValue);
            type Cloneable = Self;
            type CloneableOwned = Self;

            fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                self,
-                el: &R::Element,
+                el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                key: &str,
            ) -> Self::State {
                let was_some = self.is_some();
                let value = self.into();
                if was_some {
-                    R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                    Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                }
                (el.clone(), value)
            }

-            fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+            fn build(
+                self,
+                el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                key: &str,
+            ) -> Self::State {
                let was_some = self.is_some();
                let value = self.into();
                if was_some {
-                    R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                    Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                }
                (el.clone(), value)
            }
@@ -262,7 +262,7 @@ macro_rules! prop_type {
            fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State, key: &str) {
                let (el, prev) = state;
                let value = self.into();
-                R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                *prev = value;
            }

@@ -279,34 +279,35 @@ macro_rules! prop_type {

 macro_rules! prop_type_str {
    ($prop_type:ty) => {
-        impl<R> IntoProperty<R> for $prop_type
-        where
-            R: DomRenderer,
-        {
-            type State = (R::Element, JsValue);
+        impl IntoProperty for $prop_type {
+            type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, JsValue);
            type Cloneable = Arc<str>;
            type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

            fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                self,
-                el: &R::Element,
+                el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                key: &str,
            ) -> Self::State {
                let value = JsValue::from(&*self);
-                R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                (el.clone(), value)
            }

-            fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+            fn build(
+                self,
+                el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                key: &str,
+            ) -> Self::State {
                let value = JsValue::from(&*self);
-                R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                (el.clone(), value)
            }

            fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State, key: &str) {
                let (el, prev) = state;
                let value = JsValue::from(&*self);
-                R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                *prev = value;
            }

@@ -321,32 +322,33 @@ macro_rules! prop_type_str {
            }
        }

-        impl<R> IntoProperty<R> for Option<$prop_type>
-        where
-            R: DomRenderer,
-        {
-            type State = (R::Element, JsValue);
+        impl IntoProperty for Option<$prop_type> {
+            type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, JsValue);
            type Cloneable = Option<Arc<str>>;
            type CloneableOwned = Option<Arc<str>>;

            fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                self,
-                el: &R::Element,
+                el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                key: &str,
            ) -> Self::State {
                let was_some = self.is_some();
                let value = JsValue::from(self.map(|n| JsValue::from_str(&n)));
                if was_some {
-                    R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                    Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                }
                (el.clone(), value)
            }

-            fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+            fn build(
+                self,
+                el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                key: &str,
+            ) -> Self::State {
                let was_some = self.is_some();
                let value = JsValue::from(self.map(|n| JsValue::from_str(&n)));
                if was_some {
-                    R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                    Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                }
                (el.clone(), value)
            }
@@ -354,7 +356,7 @@ macro_rules! prop_type_str {
            fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State, key: &str) {
                let (el, prev) = state;
                let value = JsValue::from(self.map(|n| JsValue::from_str(&n)));
-                R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+                Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
                *prev = value;
            }

@@ -375,34 +377,35 @@ macro_rules! prop_type_str {
    };
 }

-impl<R> IntoProperty<R> for Arc<str>
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
-    type State = (R::Element, JsValue);
+impl IntoProperty for Arc<str> {
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, JsValue);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
        key: &str,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let value = JsValue::from_str(self.as_ref());
-        R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+        Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
        (el.clone(), value)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        let value = JsValue::from_str(self.as_ref());
-        R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+        Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
        (el.clone(), value)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State, key: &str) {
        let (el, prev) = state;
        let value = JsValue::from_str(self.as_ref());
-        R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+        Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
        *prev = value;
    }

@@ -415,32 +418,33 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> IntoProperty<R> for Option<Arc<str>>
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
-    type State = (R::Element, JsValue);
+impl IntoProperty for Option<Arc<str>> {
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, JsValue);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
        key: &str,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let was_some = self.is_some();
        let value = JsValue::from(self.map(|n| JsValue::from_str(&n)));
        if was_some {
-            R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+            Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
        }
        (el.clone(), value)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        let was_some = self.is_some();
        let value = JsValue::from(self.map(|n| JsValue::from_str(&n)));
        if was_some {
-            R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+            Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
        }
        (el.clone(), value)
    }
@@ -448,7 +452,7 @@ where
    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State, key: &str) {
        let (el, prev) = state;
        let value = JsValue::from(self.map(|n| JsValue::from_str(&n)));
-        R::set_property(el, key, &value);
+        Rndr::set_property(el, key, &value);
        *prev = value;
    }

--- a/tachys/src/html/style.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/html/style.rs
@@ -2,54 +2,47 @@ use super::attribute::{Attribute, NextAttribute};
 #[cfg(feature = "nightly")]
 use crate::view::static_types::Static;
 use crate::{
-    renderer::DomRenderer,
+    renderer::Rndr,
    view::{Position, ToTemplate},
 };
-use std::{future::Future, marker::PhantomData, sync::Arc};
+use std::{future::Future, sync::Arc};

 /// Returns an [`Attribute`] that will add to an element's CSS styles.
 #[inline(always)]
-pub fn style<S, R>(style: S) -> Style<S, R>
+pub fn style<S>(style: S) -> Style<S>
 where
-    S: IntoStyle<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    S: IntoStyle,
 {
-    Style {
-        style,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
-    }
+    Style { style }
 }

 /// An [`Attribute`] that will add to an element's CSS styles.
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct Style<S, R> {
+pub struct Style<S> {
    style: S,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<S, R> Clone for Style<S, R>
+impl<S> Clone for Style<S>
 where
    S: Clone,
 {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        Self {
            style: self.style.clone(),
-            rndr: PhantomData,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<S, R> Attribute<R> for Style<S, R>
+impl<S> Attribute for Style<S>
 where
-    S: IntoStyle<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    S: IntoStyle,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;

-    type AsyncOutput = Style<S::AsyncOutput, R>;
+    type AsyncOutput = Style<S::AsyncOutput>;
    type State = S::State;
-    type Cloneable = Style<S::Cloneable, R>;
-    type CloneableOwned = Style<S::CloneableOwned, R>;
+    type Cloneable = Style<S::Cloneable>;
+    type CloneableOwned = Style<S::CloneableOwned>;

    // TODO
    #[inline(always)]
@@ -67,11 +60,14 @@ where
        self.style.to_html(style);
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        self.style.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        self.style.build(el)
    }

@@ -82,14 +78,12 @@ where
    fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
        Style {
            style: self.style.into_cloneable(),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

    fn into_cloneable_owned(self) -> Self::CloneableOwned {
        Style {
            style: self.style.into_cloneable_owned(),
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }

@@ -100,19 +94,17 @@ where
    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
        Style {
            style: self.style.resolve().await,
-            rndr: self.rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<S, R> NextAttribute<R> for Style<S, R>
+impl<S> NextAttribute for Style<S>
 where
-    S: IntoStyle<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    S: IntoStyle,
 {
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -120,10 +112,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<S, R> ToTemplate for Style<S, R>
+impl<S> ToTemplate for Style<S>
 where
-    S: IntoStyle<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    S: IntoStyle,
 {
    fn to_template(
        _buf: &mut String,
@@ -138,25 +129,28 @@ where

 /// Any type that can be added to the `style` attribute or set as a style in
 /// the [`CssStyleDeclaration`]. This could be a plain string, or a property name-value pair.
-pub trait IntoStyle<R: DomRenderer>: Send {
+pub trait IntoStyle: Send {
    /// The type after all async data have resolved.
-    type AsyncOutput: IntoStyle<R>;
+    type AsyncOutput: IntoStyle;
    /// The view state retained between building and rebuilding.
    type State;
    /// An equivalent value that can be cloned.
-    type Cloneable: IntoStyle<R> + Clone;
+    type Cloneable: IntoStyle + Clone;
    /// An equivalent value that can be cloned and is `'static`.
-    type CloneableOwned: IntoStyle<R> + Clone + 'static;
+    type CloneableOwned: IntoStyle + Clone + 'static;

    /// Renders the style to HTML.
    fn to_html(self, style: &mut String);

    /// Adds interactivity as necessary, given DOM nodes that were created from HTML that has
    /// either been rendered on the server, or cloned for a `<template>`.
-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State;
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State;

    /// Adds this style to the element during client-side rendering.
-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State;
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State;

    /// Updates the value.
    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State);
@@ -176,12 +170,9 @@ pub trait IntoStyle<R: DomRenderer>: Send {
    fn resolve(self) -> impl Future<Output = Self::AsyncOutput> + Send;
 }

-impl<'a, R> IntoStyle<R> for &'a str
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl<'a> IntoStyle for &'a str {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, &'a str);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, &'a str);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -190,19 +181,22 @@ where
        style.push(';');
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, "style", self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, "style", self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev) = state;
        if self != *prev {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "style", self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "style", self);
        }
        *prev = self;
    }
@@ -222,12 +216,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> IntoStyle<R> for Arc<str>
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl IntoStyle for Arc<str> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Arc<str>);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Arc<str>);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -236,19 +227,22 @@ where
        style.push(';');
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, "style", &self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, "style", &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev) = state;
        if self != *prev {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "style", &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "style", &self);
        }
        *prev = self;
    }
@@ -268,12 +262,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> IntoStyle<R> for String
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl IntoStyle for String {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, String);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, String);
    type Cloneable = Arc<str>;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -282,19 +273,22 @@ where
        style.push(';');
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, "style", &self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, "style", &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev) = state;
        if self != *prev {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "style", &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "style", &self);
        }
        *prev = self;
    }
@@ -314,12 +308,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> IntoStyle<R> for (Arc<str>, Arc<str>)
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl IntoStyle for (Arc<str>, Arc<str>) {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::CssStyleDeclaration, Arc<str>);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::CssStyleDeclaration, Arc<str>);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -331,15 +322,18 @@ where
        style.push(';');
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        let style = R::style(el);
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
        (style, self.1)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let (name, value) = self;
-        let style = R::style(el);
-        R::set_css_property(&style, &name, &value);
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
+        Rndr::set_css_property(&style, &name, &value);
        (style, value)
    }

@@ -347,7 +341,7 @@ where
        let (name, value) = self;
        let (style, prev) = state;
        if value != *prev {
-            R::set_css_property(style, &name, &value);
+            Rndr::set_css_property(style, &name, &value);
        }
        *prev = value;
    }
@@ -367,12 +361,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<'a, R> IntoStyle<R> for (&'a str, &'a str)
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl<'a> IntoStyle for (&'a str, &'a str) {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::CssStyleDeclaration, &'a str);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::CssStyleDeclaration, &'a str);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = (Arc<str>, Arc<str>);

@@ -384,15 +375,18 @@ where
        style.push(';');
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        let style = R::style(el);
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
        (style, self.1)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let (name, value) = self;
-        let style = R::style(el);
-        R::set_css_property(&style, name, value);
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
+        Rndr::set_css_property(&style, name, value);
        (style, self.1)
    }

@@ -400,7 +394,7 @@ where
        let (name, value) = self;
        let (style, prev) = state;
        if value != *prev {
-            R::set_css_property(style, name, value);
+            Rndr::set_css_property(style, name, value);
        }
        *prev = value;
    }
@@ -420,12 +414,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<'a, R> IntoStyle<R> for (&'a str, String)
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl<'a> IntoStyle for (&'a str, String) {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::CssStyleDeclaration, String);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::CssStyleDeclaration, String);
    type Cloneable = (Arc<str>, Arc<str>);
    type CloneableOwned = (Arc<str>, Arc<str>);

@@ -437,15 +428,18 @@ where
        style.push(';');
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        let style = R::style(el);
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
        (style, self.1)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let (name, value) = &self;
-        let style = R::style(el);
-        R::set_css_property(&style, name, value);
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
+        Rndr::set_css_property(&style, name, value);
        (style, self.1)
    }

@@ -453,7 +447,7 @@ where
        let (name, value) = self;
        let (style, prev) = state;
        if value != *prev {
-            R::set_css_property(style, name, &value);
+            Rndr::set_css_property(style, name, &value);
        }
        *prev = value;
    }
@@ -474,10 +468,7 @@ where
 }

 #[cfg(feature = "nightly")]
-impl<'a, const V: &'static str, R> IntoStyle<R> for (&'a str, Static<V>)
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl<'a, const V: &'static str> IntoStyle for (&'a str, Static<V>) {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
    type State = ();
    type Cloneable = (Arc<str>, Static<V>);
@@ -491,13 +482,16 @@ where
        style.push(';');
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, _el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let (name, _) = &self;
-        let style = R::style(el);
-        R::set_css_property(&style, name, V);
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
+        Rndr::set_css_property(&style, name, V);
    }

    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
@@ -518,10 +512,7 @@ where
 }

 #[cfg(feature = "nightly")]
-impl<const V: &'static str, R> IntoStyle<R> for (Arc<str>, Static<V>)
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl<const V: &'static str> IntoStyle for (Arc<str>, Static<V>) {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
    type State = ();
    type Cloneable = (Arc<str>, Static<V>);
@@ -535,13 +526,16 @@ where
        style.push(';');
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, _el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let (name, _) = &self;
-        let style = R::style(el);
-        R::set_css_property(&style, name, V);
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
+        Rndr::set_css_property(&style, name, V);
    }

    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
@@ -562,11 +556,7 @@ where
 }

 #[cfg(feature = "nightly")]
-impl<const V: &'static str, R> IntoStyle<R>
-    for crate::view::static_types::Static<V>
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl<const V: &'static str> IntoStyle for crate::view::static_types::Static<V> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
    type State = ();
    type Cloneable = Self;
@@ -579,12 +569,12 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        _el: &<R>::Element,
+        _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R>::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, "style", V);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, "style", V);
    }

    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
--- a/tachys/src/hydration.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/hydration.rs
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 use crate::{
-    renderer::{CastFrom, Renderer},
+    renderer::{CastFrom, Rndr},
    view::{Position, PositionState},
 };
 use std::{cell::RefCell, rc::Rc};
@@ -10,27 +10,29 @@ use std::{cell::RefCell, rc::Rc};
 /// implements [`RenderHtml`](crate::view::RenderHtml) knows how to advance the cursor to access
 /// the nodes it needs.
 #[derive(Debug)]
-pub struct Cursor<R: Renderer>(Rc<RefCell<R::Node>>);
+pub struct Cursor(Rc<RefCell<crate::renderer::types::Node>>);

-impl<R: Renderer> Clone for Cursor<R> {
+impl Clone for Cursor {
    fn clone(&self) -> Self {
        Self(Rc::clone(&self.0))
    }
 }

-impl<R> Cursor<R>
+impl Cursor
 where
-    R: Renderer,
-
-    R::Element: AsRef<R::Node>,
+    crate::renderer::types::Element: AsRef<crate::renderer::types::Node>,
 {
    /// Creates a new cursor starting at the root element.
-    pub fn new(root: R::Element) -> Self {
-        Self(Rc::new(RefCell::new(root.as_ref().clone())))
+    pub fn new(root: crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self {
+        let root = <crate::renderer::types::Element as AsRef<
+            crate::renderer::types::Node,
+        >>::as_ref(&root)
+        .clone();
+        Self(Rc::new(RefCell::new(root)))
    }

    /// Returns the node at which the cursor is currently located.
-    pub fn current(&self) -> R::Node {
+    pub fn current(&self) -> crate::renderer::types::Node {
        self.0.borrow().clone()
    }

@@ -39,14 +41,14 @@ where
    /// Does nothing if there is no child.
    pub fn child(&self) {
        //crate::log("advancing to next child of ");
-        //R::log_node(&self.current());
+        //Rndr::log_node(&self.current());
        let mut inner = self.0.borrow_mut();
-        if let Some(node) = R::first_child(&*inner) {
+        if let Some(node) = Rndr::first_child(&inner) {
            *inner = node;
        }
        //drop(inner);
        //crate::log(">> which is ");
-        //R::log_node(&self.current());
+        //Rndr::log_node(&self.current());
    }

    /// Advances to the next sibling of the node at which the cursor is located.
@@ -54,14 +56,14 @@ where
    /// Does nothing if there is no sibling.
    pub fn sibling(&self) {
        //crate::log("advancing to next sibling of ");
-        //R::log_node(&self.current());
+        //Rndr::log_node(&self.current());
        let mut inner = self.0.borrow_mut();
-        if let Some(node) = R::next_sibling(&*inner) {
+        if let Some(node) = Rndr::next_sibling(&inner) {
            *inner = node;
        }
        //drop(inner);
        //crate::log(">> which is ");
-        //R::log_node(&self.current());
+        //Rndr::log_node(&self.current());
    }

    /// Moves to the parent of the node at which the cursor is located.
@@ -69,20 +71,23 @@ where
    /// Does nothing if there is no parent.
    pub fn parent(&self) {
        let mut inner = self.0.borrow_mut();
-        if let Some(node) = R::get_parent(&*inner) {
+        if let Some(node) = Rndr::get_parent(&inner) {
            *inner = node;
        }
    }

    /// Sets the cursor to some node.
-    pub fn set(&self, node: R::Node) {
+    pub fn set(&self, node: crate::renderer::types::Node) {
        *self.0.borrow_mut() = node;
    }

    /// Advances to the next placeholder node.
-    pub fn next_placeholder(&self, position: &PositionState) -> R::Placeholder {
+    pub fn next_placeholder(
+        &self,
+        position: &PositionState,
+    ) -> crate::renderer::types::Placeholder {
        //crate::dom::log("looking for placeholder after");
-        //R::log_node(&self.current());
+        //Rndr::log_node(&self.current());
        if position.get() == Position::FirstChild {
            self.child();
        } else {
@@ -90,12 +95,12 @@ where
        }
        let marker = self.current();
        position.set(Position::NextChild);
-        R::Placeholder::cast_from(marker)
+        crate::renderer::types::Placeholder::cast_from(marker)
            .expect("could not convert current node into marker node")
        /*let marker2 = marker.clone();
-        R::Placeholder::cast_from(marker).unwrap_or_else(|| {
+        Rndr::Placeholder::cast_from(marker).unwrap_or_else(|| {
            crate::dom::log("expecting to find a marker. instead, found");
-            R::log_node(&marker2);
+            Rndr::log_node(&marker2);
            panic!("oops.");
        })*/
    }
--- a/tachys/src/lib.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/lib.rs
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@

 #![allow(incomplete_features)] // yolo
 #![cfg_attr(feature = "nightly", feature(unsized_const_params))]
-#![deny(missing_docs)]
+//#![deny(missing_docs)]

 /// Commonly-used traits.
 pub mod prelude {
--- a/tachys/src/mathml/mod.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/mathml/mod.rs
@@ -1,16 +1,12 @@
 use crate::{
    html::{
        attribute::{Attr, Attribute, AttributeValue},
-        element::{
-            CreateElement, ElementType, ElementWithChildren, HtmlElement,
-        },
+        element::{ElementType, ElementWithChildren, HtmlElement},
    },
-    renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
    view::Render,
 };
 use next_tuple::NextTuple;
-use once_cell::unsync::Lazy;
-use std::{fmt::Debug, marker::PhantomData};
+use std::fmt::Debug;

 macro_rules! mathml_global {
 	($tag:ty, $attr:ty) => {
@@ -18,18 +14,18 @@ macro_rules! mathml_global {
            /// A MathML attribute.
 			pub fn $attr<V>(self, value: V) -> HtmlElement <
 				[<$tag:camel>],
-				<At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>,
-				Ch, Rndr
+				<At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>,
+				Ch
 			>
 			where
-				V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
+				V: AttributeValue,
 				At: NextTuple,
-				<At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>: Attribute<Rndr>,
+				<At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>: Attribute,
 			{
-				let HtmlElement { tag, rndr, children, attributes } = self;
+				let HtmlElement { tag, children, attributes } = self;
 				HtmlElement {
 					tag,
-					rndr,
+
 					children,
 					attributes: attributes.next_tuple($crate::html::attribute::$attr(value)),
 				}
@@ -45,15 +41,15 @@ macro_rules! mathml_elements {
                // `tag()` function
                /// A MathML element.
                #[track_caller]
-                pub fn $tag<Rndr>() -> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], (), (), Rndr>
+                pub fn $tag() -> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], (), ()>
                where
-                    Rndr: Renderer
+
                {
                    HtmlElement {
                        tag: [<$tag:camel>],
                        attributes: (),
                        children: (),
-                        rndr: PhantomData,
+
                    }
                }

@@ -61,11 +57,11 @@ macro_rules! mathml_elements {
                #[derive(Debug, Copy, Clone, PartialEq, Eq)]
                pub struct [<$tag:camel>];

-				impl<At, Ch, Rndr> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], At, Ch, Rndr>
+				impl<At, Ch> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], At, Ch>
 				where
-					At: Attribute<Rndr>,
-					Ch: Render<Rndr>,
-					Rndr: Renderer,
+					At: Attribute,
+					Ch: Render,
+
 				{
 					mathml_global!($tag, displaystyle);
 					mathml_global!($tag, href);
@@ -80,18 +76,18 @@ macro_rules! mathml_elements {
                        /// A MathML attribute.
                        pub fn $attr<V>(self, value: V) -> HtmlElement <
                            [<$tag:camel>],
-                            <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>,
-                            Ch, Rndr
+                            <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>,
+                            Ch
                        >
                        where
-                            V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
+                            V: AttributeValue,
                            At: NextTuple,
-                            <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>: Attribute<Rndr>,
+                            <At as NextTuple>::Output<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>: Attribute,
                        {
-                            let HtmlElement { tag, rndr, children, attributes } = self;
+                            let HtmlElement { tag, children, attributes } = self;
                            HtmlElement {
                                tag,
-                                rndr,
+
                                children,
                                attributes: attributes.next_tuple($crate::html::attribute::$attr(value)),
                            }
@@ -113,22 +109,6 @@ macro_rules! mathml_elements {
                }

                impl ElementWithChildren for [<$tag:camel>] {}
-
-                impl CreateElement<Dom> for [<$tag:camel>] {
-                    fn create_element(&self) -> <Dom as Renderer>::Element {
-                        use wasm_bindgen::JsCast;
-
-                        thread_local! {
-                            static ELEMENT: Lazy<<Dom as Renderer>::Element> = Lazy::new(|| {
-                                crate::dom::document().create_element_ns(
-									Some(wasm_bindgen::intern("http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML")),
-									stringify!($tag)
-								).unwrap()
-                            });
-                        }
-                        ELEMENT.with(|e| e.clone_node()).unwrap().unchecked_into()
-                    }
-                }
            )*
 		}
    }
--- a/tachys/src/oco.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/oco.rs
@@ -3,29 +3,29 @@ use crate::{
    hydration::Cursor,
    no_attrs,
    prelude::{Mountable, Render, RenderHtml},
-    renderer::{DomRenderer, Renderer},
+    renderer::Rndr,
    view::{strings::StrState, Position, PositionState, ToTemplate},
 };
 use oco_ref::Oco;

 /// Retained view state for [`Oco`].
-pub struct OcoStrState<R: Renderer> {
-    node: R::Text,
+pub struct OcoStrState {
+    node: crate::renderer::types::Text,
    str: Oco<'static, str>,
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for Oco<'static, str> {
-    type State = OcoStrState<R>;
+impl Render for Oco<'static, str> {
+    type State = OcoStrState;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        let node = R::create_text_node(&self);
+        let node = Rndr::create_text_node(&self);
        OcoStrState { node, str: self }
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let OcoStrState { node, str } = state;
        if &self == str {
-            R::set_text(node, &self);
+            Rndr::set_text(node, &self);
            *str = self;
        }
    }
@@ -33,10 +33,7 @@ impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for Oco<'static, str> {

 no_attrs!(Oco<'static, str>);

-impl<R> RenderHtml<R> for Oco<'static, str>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl RenderHtml for Oco<'static, str> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
@@ -54,7 +51,7 @@ where
        escape: bool,
        mark_branches: bool,
    ) {
-        <&str as RenderHtml<R>>::to_html_with_buf(
+        <&str as RenderHtml>::to_html_with_buf(
            &self,
            buf,
            position,
@@ -65,13 +62,13 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let this: &str = self.as_ref();
-        let StrState { node, .. } = <&str as RenderHtml<R>>::hydrate::<
-            FROM_SERVER,
-        >(this, cursor, position);
+        let StrState { node, .. } = <&str as RenderHtml>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+            this, cursor, position,
+        );
        OcoStrState { node, str: self }
    }
 }
@@ -92,30 +89,27 @@ impl ToTemplate for Oco<'static, str> {
    }
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Mountable<R> for OcoStrState<R> {
+impl Mountable for OcoStrState {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.node.unmount()
    }

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
-        R::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
+        Rndr::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.node.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

-impl<R> AttributeValue<R> for Oco<'static, str>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl AttributeValue for Oco<'static, str> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Oco<'static, str>);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Oco<'static, str>);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -124,7 +118,7 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, key: &str, buf: &mut String) {
-        <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::to_html(self.as_str(), key, buf);
+        <&str as AttributeValue>::to_html(self.as_str(), key, buf);
    }

    fn to_template(_key: &str, _buf: &mut String) {}
@@ -132,9 +126,9 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        let (el, _) = <&str as AttributeValue<R>>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+        let (el, _) = <&str as AttributeValue>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
            self.as_str(),
            key,
            el,
@@ -142,15 +136,19 @@ where
        (el, self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, key: &str, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev_value) = state;
        if self != *prev_value {
-            R::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, key, &self);
        }
        *prev_value = self;
    }
@@ -174,12 +172,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> IntoClass<R> for Oco<'static, str>
-where
-    R: DomRenderer,
-{
+impl IntoClass for Oco<'static, str> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = (R::Element, Self);
+    type State = (crate::renderer::types::Element, Self);
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -188,25 +183,28 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, class: &mut String) {
-        IntoClass::<R>::to_html(self.as_str(), class);
+        IntoClass::to_html(self.as_str(), class);
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
        }
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
        (el.clone(), self)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let (el, prev) = state;
        if self != *prev {
-            R::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
+            Rndr::set_attribute(el, "class", &self);
        }
        *prev = self;
    }
--- a/tachys/src/reactive_graph/class.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/reactive_graph/class.rs
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 use super::{ReactiveFunction, SharedReactiveFunction, Suspend};
-use crate::{html::class::IntoClass, renderer::DomRenderer};
+use crate::{html::class::IntoClass, renderer::Rndr};
 use any_spawner::Executor;
 use futures::FutureExt;
 use reactive_graph::{effect::RenderEffect, signal::guards::ReadGuard};
@@ -8,12 +8,11 @@ use std::{
    sync::Arc,
 };

-impl<F, C, R> IntoClass<R> for F
+impl<F, C> IntoClass for F
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = C>,
-    C: IntoClass<R> + 'static,
+    C: IntoClass + 'static,
    C::State: 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = C::AsyncOutput;
    type State = RenderEffect<C::State>;
@@ -31,7 +30,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        mut self,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        // TODO FROM_SERVER vs template
        let el = el.clone();
@@ -46,7 +45,7 @@ where
        })
    }

-    fn build(mut self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(mut self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let el = el.to_owned();
        RenderEffect::new(move |prev| {
            let value = self.invoke();
@@ -92,14 +91,13 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<F, T, R> IntoClass<R> for (&'static str, F)
+impl<F, T> IntoClass for (&'static str, F)
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = T>,
    T: Borrow<bool> + Send + 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = (&'static str, bool);
-    type State = RenderEffect<(R::ClassList, bool)>;
+    type State = RenderEffect<(crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool)>;
    type Cloneable = (&'static str, SharedReactiveFunction<T>);
    type CloneableOwned = (&'static str, SharedReactiveFunction<T>);

@@ -111,56 +109,63 @@ where
        let (name, mut f) = self;
        let include = *f.invoke().borrow();
        if include {
-            <&str as IntoClass<R>>::to_html(name, class);
+            <&str as IntoClass>::to_html(name, class);
        }
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        // TODO FROM_SERVER vs template
        let (name, mut f) = self;
-        let class_list = R::class_list(el);
-        let name = R::intern(name);
+        let class_list = Rndr::class_list(el);
+        let name = Rndr::intern(name);

-        RenderEffect::new(move |prev: Option<(R::ClassList, bool)>| {
-            let include = *f.invoke().borrow();
-            if let Some((class_list, prev)) = prev {
-                if include {
-                    if !prev {
-                        R::add_class(&class_list, name);
-                    }
-                } else if prev {
-                    R::remove_class(&class_list, name);
-                }
-            }
-            (class_list.clone(), include)
-        })
-    }
-
-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        let (name, mut f) = self;
-        let class_list = R::class_list(el);
-        let name = R::intern(name);
-
-        RenderEffect::new(move |prev: Option<(R::ClassList, bool)>| {
-            let include = *f.invoke().borrow();
-            match prev {
-                Some((class_list, prev)) => {
+        RenderEffect::new(
+            move |prev: Option<(crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool)>| {
+                let include = *f.invoke().borrow();
+                if let Some((class_list, prev)) = prev {
                    if include {
                        if !prev {
-                            R::add_class(&class_list, name);
+                            Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
                        }
                    } else if prev {
-                        R::remove_class(&class_list, name);
+                        Rndr::remove_class(&class_list, name);
                    }
                }
-                None => {
-                    if include {
-                        R::add_class(&class_list, name);
+                (class_list.clone(), include)
+            },
+        )
+    }
+
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        let (name, mut f) = self;
+        let class_list = Rndr::class_list(el);
+        let name = Rndr::intern(name);
+
+        RenderEffect::new(
+            move |prev: Option<(crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool)>| {
+                let include = *f.invoke().borrow();
+                match prev {
+                    Some((class_list, prev)) => {
+                        if include {
+                            if !prev {
+                                Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
+                            }
+                        } else if prev {
+                            Rndr::remove_class(&class_list, name);
+                        }
+                    }
+                    None => {
+                        if include {
+                            Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
+                        }
                    }
                }
-            }
-            (class_list.clone(), include)
-        })
+                (class_list.clone(), include)
+            },
+        )
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
@@ -173,10 +178,10 @@ where
                    Some((class_list, prev)) => {
                        if include {
                            if !prev {
-                                R::add_class(&class_list, name);
+                                Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
                            }
                        } else if prev {
-                            R::remove_class(&class_list, name);
+                            Rndr::remove_class(&class_list, name);
                        }
                        (class_list.clone(), include)
                    }
@@ -208,14 +213,14 @@ where

 // TODO this needs a non-reactive form too to be restored
 /*
-impl<F, T, R> IntoClass<R> for (Vec<Cow<'static, str>>, F)
+impl<F, T> IntoClass for (Vec<Cow<'static, str>>, F)
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = T>,
    T: Borrow<bool> + Send + 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+
 {
    type AsyncOutput = (Vec<Cow<'static, str>>, bool);
-    type State = RenderEffect<(R::ClassList, bool)>;
+    type State = RenderEffect<(crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool)>;
    type Cloneable = (Vec<Cow<'static, str>>, SharedReactiveFunction<T>);
    type CloneableOwned = (Vec<Cow<'static, str>>, SharedReactiveFunction<T>);

@@ -228,29 +233,29 @@ where
        let include = *f.invoke().borrow();
        if include {
            for name in names {
-                <&str as IntoClass<R>>::to_html(&name, class);
+                <&str as IntoClass>::to_html(&name, class);
            }
        }
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        // TODO FROM_SERVER vs template
        let (names, mut f) = self;
-        let class_list = R::class_list(el);
+        let class_list = Rndr::class_list(el);

-        RenderEffect::new(move |prev: Option<(R::ClassList, bool)>| {
+        RenderEffect::new(move |prev: Option<(crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool)>| {
            let include = *f.invoke().borrow();
            if let Some((class_list, prev)) = prev {
                if include {
                    if !prev {
                        for name in &names {
                            // TODO multi-class optimizations here
-                            R::add_class(&class_list, name);
+                            Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
                        }
                    }
                } else if prev {
                    for name in &names {
-                        R::remove_class(&class_list, name);
+                        Rndr::remove_class(&class_list, name);
                    }
                }
            }
@@ -258,30 +263,30 @@ where
        })
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let (names, mut f) = self;
-        let class_list = R::class_list(el);
+        let class_list = Rndr::class_list(el);

-        RenderEffect::new(move |prev: Option<(R::ClassList, bool)>| {
+        RenderEffect::new(move |prev: Option<(crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool)>| {
            let include = *f.invoke().borrow();
            match prev {
                Some((class_list, prev)) => {
                    if include {
                        for name in &names {
                            if !prev {
-                                R::add_class(&class_list, name);
+                                Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
                            }
                        }
                    } else if prev {
                        for name in &names {
-                            R::remove_class(&class_list, name);
+                            Rndr::remove_class(&class_list, name);
                        }
                    }
                }
                None => {
                    if include {
                        for name in &names {
-                            R::add_class(&class_list, name);
+                            Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
                        }
                    }
                }
@@ -295,19 +300,19 @@ where
        let prev_value = state.take_value();

        *state = RenderEffect::new_with_value(
-            move |prev: Option<(R::ClassList, bool)>| {
+            move |prev: Option<(crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool)>| {
                let include = *f.invoke().borrow();
                match prev {
                    Some((class_list, prev)) => {
                        if include {
                            for name in &names {
                                if !prev {
-                                    R::add_class(&class_list, name);
+                                    Rndr::add_class(&class_list, name);
                                }
                            }
                        } else if prev {
                            for name in &names {
-                                R::remove_class(&class_list, name);
+                                Rndr::remove_class(&class_list, name);
                            }
                        }
                        (class_list.clone(), include)
@@ -339,13 +344,12 @@ where
 }
 */

-impl<G, R> IntoClass<R> for ReadGuard<String, G>
+impl<G> IntoClass for ReadGuard<String, G>
 where
    G: Deref<Target = String> + Send,
-    R: DomRenderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = <String as IntoClass<R>>::State;
+    type State = <String as IntoClass>::State;
    type Cloneable = Arc<str>;
    type CloneableOwned = Arc<str>;

@@ -354,25 +358,25 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, class: &mut String) {
-        <&str as IntoClass<R>>::to_html(self.deref().as_str(), class);
+        <&str as IntoClass>::to_html(self.deref().as_str(), class);
    }

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<R>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        <String as IntoClass<R>>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+        <String as IntoClass>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
            self.deref().to_owned(),
            el,
        )
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R>::Element) -> Self::State {
-        <String as IntoClass<R>>::build(self.deref().to_owned(), el)
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        <String as IntoClass>::build(self.deref().to_owned(), el)
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
-        <String as IntoClass<R>>::rebuild(self.deref().to_owned(), state)
+        <String as IntoClass>::rebuild(self.deref().to_owned(), state)
    }

    fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
@@ -390,13 +394,12 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<G, R> IntoClass<R> for (&'static str, ReadGuard<bool, G>)
+impl<G> IntoClass for (&'static str, ReadGuard<bool, G>)
 where
    G: Deref<Target = bool> + Send,
-    R: DomRenderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass<R>>::State;
+    type State = <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass>::State;
    type Cloneable = (&'static str, bool);
    type CloneableOwned = (&'static str, bool);

@@ -405,7 +408,7 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html(self, class: &mut String) {
-        <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass<R>>::to_html(
+        <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass>::to_html(
            (self.0, *self.1.deref()),
            class,
        );
@@ -413,23 +416,23 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<R>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass<R>>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+        <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
            (self.0, *self.1.deref()),
            el,
        )
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R>::Element) -> Self::State {
-        <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass<R>>::build(
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass>::build(
            (self.0, *self.1.deref()),
            el,
        )
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
-        <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass<R>>::rebuild(
+        <(&'static str, bool) as IntoClass>::rebuild(
            (self.0, *self.1.deref()),
            state,
        )
@@ -454,14 +457,13 @@ where
 mod stable {
    macro_rules! class_signal_arena {
        ($sig:ident) => {
-            impl<C, R, S> IntoClass<R> for $sig<C, S>
+            impl<C, S> IntoClass for $sig<C, S>
            where
                $sig<C, S>: Get<Value = C>,
                S: Send + Sync + 'static,
                S: Storage<C> + Storage<Option<C>>,
-                C: IntoClass<R> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
+                C: IntoClass + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
                C::State: 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
                type State = RenderEffect<C::State>;
@@ -479,12 +481,15 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &R::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el)
                }

@@ -507,15 +512,15 @@ mod stable {
                }
            }

-            impl<R, S> IntoClass<R> for (&'static str, $sig<bool, S>)
+            impl<S> IntoClass for (&'static str, $sig<bool, S>)
            where
                $sig<bool, S>: Get<Value = bool>,
                S: Send + 'static,
                S: Storage<bool>,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
-                type State = RenderEffect<(R::ClassList, bool)>;
+                type State =
+                    RenderEffect<(crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool)>;
                type Cloneable = Self;
                type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -527,29 +532,29 @@ mod stable {
                    let (name, f) = self;
                    let include = f.get();
                    if include {
-                        <&str as IntoClass<R>>::to_html(name, class);
+                        <&str as IntoClass>::to_html(name, class);
                    }
                }

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &R::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
-                    IntoClass::<R>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+                    IntoClass::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
                        el,
                    )
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-                    IntoClass::<R>::build((self.0, move || self.1.get()), el)
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
+                    IntoClass::build((self.0, move || self.1.get()), el)
                }

                fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
-                    IntoClass::<R>::rebuild(
-                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
-                        state,
-                    )
+                    IntoClass::rebuild((self.0, move || self.1.get()), state)
                }

                fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
@@ -571,12 +576,11 @@ mod stable {

    macro_rules! class_signal {
        ($sig:ident) => {
-            impl<C, R> IntoClass<R> for $sig<C>
+            impl<C> IntoClass for $sig<C>
            where
                $sig<C>: Get<Value = C>,
-                C: IntoClass<R> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
+                C: IntoClass + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
                C::State: 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
                type State = RenderEffect<C::State>;
@@ -594,12 +598,15 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &R::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el)
                }

@@ -622,13 +629,13 @@ mod stable {
                }
            }

-            impl<R> IntoClass<R> for (&'static str, $sig<bool>)
+            impl IntoClass for (&'static str, $sig<bool>)
            where
                $sig<bool>: Get<Value = bool>,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
-                type State = RenderEffect<(R::ClassList, bool)>;
+                type State =
+                    RenderEffect<(crate::renderer::types::ClassList, bool)>;
                type Cloneable = Self;
                type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -640,29 +647,29 @@ mod stable {
                    let (name, f) = self;
                    let include = f.get();
                    if include {
-                        <&str as IntoClass<R>>::to_html(name, class);
+                        <&str as IntoClass>::to_html(name, class);
                    }
                }

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &R::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
-                    IntoClass::<R>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+                    IntoClass::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
                        el,
                    )
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-                    IntoClass::<R>::build((self.0, move || self.1.get()), el)
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
+                    IntoClass::build((self.0, move || self.1.get()), el)
                }

                fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
-                    IntoClass::<R>::rebuild(
-                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
-                        state,
-                    )
+                    IntoClass::rebuild((self.0, move || self.1.get()), state)
                }

                fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
@@ -683,7 +690,7 @@ mod stable {
    }

    use super::RenderEffect;
-    use crate::{html::class::IntoClass, renderer::DomRenderer};
+    use crate::html::class::IntoClass;
    use reactive_graph::{
        computed::{ArcMemo, Memo},
        owner::Storage,
@@ -703,14 +710,13 @@ mod stable {
    class_signal!(ArcSignal);
 }

-impl<Fut, Rndr> IntoClass<Rndr> for Suspend<Fut>
+impl<Fut> IntoClass for Suspend<Fut>
 where
    Fut: Clone + Future + Send + 'static,
-    Fut::Output: IntoClass<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer + 'static,
+    Fut::Output: IntoClass,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Fut::Output;
-    type State = Rc<RefCell<Option<<Fut::Output as IntoClass<Rndr>>::State>>>;
+    type State = Rc<RefCell<Option<<Fut::Output as IntoClass>::State>>>;
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -728,7 +734,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<Rndr>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let el = el.to_owned();
        let state = Rc::new(RefCell::new(None));
@@ -743,7 +749,7 @@ where
        state
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<Rndr>::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let el = el.to_owned();
        let state = Rc::new(RefCell::new(None));
        Executor::spawn_local({
--- a/tachys/src/reactive_graph/inner_html.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/reactive_graph/inner_html.rs
@@ -1,16 +1,12 @@
 use super::{ReactiveFunction, SharedReactiveFunction};
-use crate::{
-    html::element::InnerHtmlValue,
-    renderer::{DomRenderer, Renderer},
-};
+use crate::html::element::InnerHtmlValue;
 use reactive_graph::effect::RenderEffect;

-impl<F, V, R> InnerHtmlValue<R> for F
+impl<F, V> InnerHtmlValue for F
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = V>,
-    V: InnerHtmlValue<R> + 'static,
+    V: InnerHtmlValue + 'static,
    V::State: 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = V::AsyncOutput;
    type State = RenderEffect<V::State>;
@@ -30,7 +26,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        mut self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let el = el.to_owned();
        RenderEffect::new(move |prev| {
@@ -44,7 +40,7 @@ where
        })
    }

-    fn build(mut self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(mut self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let el = el.to_owned();
        RenderEffect::new(move |prev| {
            let value = self.invoke();
@@ -92,10 +88,7 @@ where

 #[cfg(not(feature = "nightly"))]
 mod stable {
-    use crate::{
-        html::element::InnerHtmlValue,
-        renderer::{DomRenderer, Renderer},
-    };
+    use crate::html::element::InnerHtmlValue;
    use reactive_graph::{
        computed::{ArcMemo, Memo},
        effect::RenderEffect,
@@ -107,12 +100,11 @@ mod stable {

    macro_rules! inner_html_signal {
        ($sig:ident) => {
-            impl<V, R> InnerHtmlValue<R> for $sig<V>
+            impl<V> InnerHtmlValue for $sig<V>
            where
                $sig<V>: Get<Value = V>,
-                V: InnerHtmlValue<R> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
+                V: InnerHtmlValue + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
                type State = RenderEffect<V::State>;
@@ -132,12 +124,15 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el)
                }

@@ -164,14 +159,13 @@ mod stable {

    macro_rules! inner_html_signal_arena {
        ($sig:ident) => {
-            impl<V, R, S> InnerHtmlValue<R> for $sig<V, S>
+            impl<V, S> InnerHtmlValue for $sig<V, S>
            where
                $sig<V, S>: Get<Value = V>,
                S: Send + Sync + 'static,
                S: Storage<V>,
-                V: InnerHtmlValue<R> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
+                V: InnerHtmlValue + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
                type State = RenderEffect<V::State>;
@@ -191,12 +185,15 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element) -> Self::State {
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el)
                }

--- a/tachys/src/reactive_graph/mod.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/reactive_graph/mod.rs
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 use crate::{
    html::attribute::{Attribute, AttributeValue},
    hydration::Cursor,
-    renderer::Renderer,
+    renderer::Rndr,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{
        add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
@@ -47,12 +47,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<F, V, R> Render<R> for F
+impl<F, V> Render for F
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = V>,
-    V: Render<R>,
+    V: Render,
    V::State: 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
    type State = RenderEffectState<V::State>;

@@ -88,10 +87,9 @@ impl<T> From<RenderEffect<T>> for RenderEffectState<T> {
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> Mountable<R> for RenderEffectState<T>
+impl<T> Mountable for RenderEffectState<T>
 where
-    T: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        if let Some(ref mut inner) = self.0 {
@@ -99,13 +97,17 @@ where
        }
    }

-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &R::Element, marker: Option<&R::Node>) {
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
        if let Some(ref mut inner) = self.0 {
            inner.mount(parent, marker);
        }
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        if let Some(inner) = &self.0 {
            inner.insert_before_this(child)
        } else {
@@ -114,13 +116,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<F, V, R> RenderHtml<R> for F
+impl<F, V> RenderHtml for F
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = V>,
-    V: RenderHtml<R> + 'static,
+    V: RenderHtml + 'static,
    V::State: 'static,
-
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = V::AsyncOutput;

@@ -169,7 +169,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        mut self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let cursor = cursor.clone();
@@ -187,31 +187,29 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<F, V, R> AddAnyAttr<R> for F
+impl<F, V> AddAnyAttr for F
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = V>,
-    V: RenderHtml<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
+    V: RenderHtml + 'static,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> =
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
        Box<dyn FnMut() -> V::Output<SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned> + Send>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        mut self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let attr = attr.into_cloneable_owned();
        Box::new(move || self.invoke().add_any_attr(attr.clone()))
    }
 }

-impl<M, R> Mountable<R> for RenderEffect<M>
+impl<M> Mountable for RenderEffect<M>
 where
-    M: Mountable<R> + 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
+    M: Mountable + 'static,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.with_value_mut(|state| state.unmount());
@@ -219,24 +217,23 @@ where

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        self.with_value_mut(|state| {
            state.mount(parent, marker);
        });
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.with_value_mut(|value| value.insert_before_this(child))
            .unwrap_or(false)
    }
 }

-impl<M, E, R> Mountable<R> for Result<M, E>
+impl<M, E> Mountable for Result<M, E>
 where
-    M: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    M: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        if let Ok(ref mut inner) = self {
@@ -246,15 +243,15 @@ where

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        if let Ok(ref mut inner) = self {
            inner.mount(parent, marker);
        }
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        if let Ok(inner) = &self {
            inner.insert_before_this(child)
        } else {
@@ -264,12 +261,11 @@ where
 }

 // Dynamic attributes
-impl<F, V, R> AttributeValue<R> for F
+impl<F, V> AttributeValue for F
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = V>,
-    V: AttributeValue<R> + 'static,
+    V: AttributeValue + 'static,
    V::State: 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = V::AsyncOutput;
    type State = RenderEffect<V::State>;
@@ -290,9 +286,9 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        mut self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        let key = R::intern(key);
+        let key = Rndr::intern(key);
        let key = key.to_owned();
        let el = el.to_owned();

@@ -309,10 +305,10 @@ where

    fn build(
        mut self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
        key: &str,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        let key = R::intern(key);
+        let key = Rndr::intern(key);
        let key = key.to_owned();
        let el = el.to_owned();

@@ -328,7 +324,7 @@ where
    }

    fn rebuild(mut self, key: &str, state: &mut Self::State) {
-        let key = R::intern(key);
+        let key = Rndr::intern(key);
        let key = key.to_owned();
        let prev_value = state.take_value();

@@ -363,12 +359,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Fut, V, R> AttributeValue<R> for Suspend<Fut>
+impl<Fut, V> AttributeValue for Suspend<Fut>
 where
    Fut: Future<Output = V> + Send + 'static,
-    V: AttributeValue<R> + 'static,
+    V: AttributeValue + 'static,
    V::State: 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
    type State = Rc<RefCell<Option<V::State>>>;
    type AsyncOutput = V;
@@ -391,7 +386,7 @@ where
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
        key: &str,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let key = key.to_owned();
        let el = el.to_owned();
@@ -407,7 +402,11 @@ where
        state
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<R as Renderer>::Element, key: &str) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        key: &str,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        let key = key.to_owned();
        let el = el.to_owned();
        let state = Rc::new(RefCell::new(None));
@@ -502,11 +501,10 @@ mod stable {
    use crate::{
        html::attribute::{Attribute, AttributeValue},
        hydration::Cursor,
-        renderer::Renderer,
        ssr::StreamBuilder,
        view::{
            add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
-            RenderHtml, WrappedView,
+            RenderHtml,
        },
    };
    use reactive_graph::{
@@ -520,13 +518,11 @@ mod stable {

    macro_rules! signal_impl {
        ($sig:ident $dry_resolve:literal) => {
-            impl<V, R> Render<R> for $sig<V>
+            impl<V> Render for $sig<V>
            where
                $sig<V>: Get<Value = V>,
-                V: Render<R> + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
+                V: Render + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-
-                R: Renderer,
            {
                type State = RenderEffectState<V::State>;

@@ -544,34 +540,30 @@ mod stable {
                }
            }

-            impl<V, R> AddAnyAttr<R> for $sig<V>
+            impl<V> AddAnyAttr for $sig<V>
            where
                $sig<V>: Get<Value = V>,
-                V: RenderHtml<R> + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
+                V: RenderHtml + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-                R: Renderer + 'static,
            {
-                // WrappedView is necessary here for compiler reasons I don't completely understand
-                type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> = WrappedView<$sig<V>>;
+                type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = Self;

-                fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+                fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
                    self,
                    _attr: NewAttr,
                ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
                where
-                    Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+                    Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
                {
-                    WrappedView::new(self)
+                    todo!()
                }
            }

-            impl<V, R> RenderHtml<R> for $sig<V>
+            impl<V> RenderHtml for $sig<V>
            where
                $sig<V>: Get<Value = V>,
-                V: RenderHtml<R> + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
+                V: RenderHtml + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-
-                R: Renderer + 'static,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -622,7 +614,7 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+                    cursor: &Cursor,
                    position: &PositionState,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get())
@@ -630,12 +622,11 @@ mod stable {
                }
            }

-            impl<V, R> AttributeValue<R> for $sig<V>
+            impl<V> AttributeValue for $sig<V>
            where
                $sig<V>: Get<Value = V>,
-                V: AttributeValue<R> + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
+                V: AttributeValue + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-                R: Renderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
                type State = RenderEffect<V::State>;
@@ -656,14 +647,14 @@ mod stable {
                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
                    key: &str,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(key, el)
                }

                fn build(
                    self,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                    key: &str,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el, key)
@@ -692,15 +683,13 @@ mod stable {

    macro_rules! signal_impl_arena {
        ($sig:ident $dry_resolve:literal) => {
-            impl<V, R, S> Render<R> for $sig<V, S>
+            impl<V, S> Render for $sig<V, S>
            where
                $sig<V, S>: Get<Value = V>,
                S: Send + Sync + 'static,
                S: Storage<V> + Storage<Option<V>>,
-                V: Render<R> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
+                V: Render + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-
-                R: Renderer,
            {
                type State = RenderEffectState<V::State>;

@@ -718,38 +707,34 @@ mod stable {
                }
            }

-            impl<V, R, S> AddAnyAttr<R> for $sig<V, S>
+            impl<V, S> AddAnyAttr for $sig<V, S>
            where
                $sig<V, S>: Get<Value = V>,
                S: Send + Sync + 'static,
                S: Storage<V> + Storage<Option<V>>,
-                V: RenderHtml<R> + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
+                V: RenderHtml + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-                R: Renderer + 'static,
            {
-                type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> =
-                    WrappedView<$sig<V, S>>;
+                type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = $sig<V, S>;

-                fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+                fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
                    self,
                    _attr: NewAttr,
                ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
                where
-                    Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+                    Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
                {
-                    WrappedView::new(self)
+                    todo!()
                }
            }

-            impl<V, R, S> RenderHtml<R> for $sig<V, S>
+            impl<V, S> RenderHtml for $sig<V, S>
            where
                $sig<V, S>: Get<Value = V>,
                S: Send + Sync + 'static,
                S: Storage<V> + Storage<Option<V>>,
-                V: RenderHtml<R> + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
+                V: RenderHtml + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-
-                R: Renderer + 'static,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -800,7 +785,7 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+                    cursor: &Cursor,
                    position: &PositionState,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get())
@@ -808,14 +793,13 @@ mod stable {
                }
            }

-            impl<V, R, S> AttributeValue<R> for $sig<V, S>
+            impl<V, S> AttributeValue for $sig<V, S>
            where
                $sig<V, S>: Get<Value = V>,
                S: Storage<V> + Storage<Option<V>>,
                S: Send + Sync + 'static,
-                V: AttributeValue<R> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
+                V: AttributeValue + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-                R: Renderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
                type State = RenderEffect<V::State>;
@@ -836,14 +820,14 @@ mod stable {
                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
                    key: &str,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(key, el)
                }

                fn build(
                    self,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                    key: &str,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el, key)
--- a/tachys/src/reactive_graph/node_ref.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/reactive_graph/node_ref.rs
@@ -1,7 +1,4 @@
-use crate::{
-    html::{element::ElementType, node_ref::NodeRefContainer},
-    renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
-};
+use crate::html::{element::ElementType, node_ref::NodeRefContainer};
 use reactive_graph::{
    signal::RwSignal,
    traits::{DefinedAt, Set, Track, WithUntracked},
@@ -55,12 +52,12 @@ where
 {
 }

-impl<E> NodeRefContainer<E, Dom> for NodeRef<E>
+impl<E> NodeRefContainer<E> for NodeRef<E>
 where
    E: ElementType,
    E::Output: JsCast + 'static,
 {
-    fn load(self, el: &<Dom as Renderer>::Element) {
+    fn load(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) {
        // safe to construct SendWrapper here, because it will only run in the browser
        // so it will always be accessed or dropped from the main thread
        self.0
--- a/tachys/src/reactive_graph/owned.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/reactive_graph/owned.rs
@@ -2,75 +2,56 @@ use crate::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
    hydration::Cursor,
    prelude::Mountable,
-    renderer::Renderer,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Position, PositionState, Render, RenderHtml},
 };
 use reactive_graph::{computed::ScopedFuture, owner::Owner};
-use std::marker::PhantomData;

 /// A view wrapper that sets the reactive [`Owner`] to a particular owner whenever it is rendered.
 #[derive(Debug, Clone)]
-pub struct OwnedView<T, R> {
+pub struct OwnedView<T> {
    owner: Owner,
    view: T,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<T, R> OwnedView<T, R> {
+impl<T> OwnedView<T> {
    /// Wraps a view with the current owner.
    pub fn new(view: T) -> Self {
        let owner = Owner::current().expect("no reactive owner");
-        Self {
-            owner,
-            view,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
-        }
+        Self { owner, view }
    }

    /// Wraps a view with the given owner.
    pub fn new_with_owner(view: T, owner: Owner) -> Self {
-        Self {
-            owner,
-            view,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
-        }
+        Self { owner, view }
    }
 }

 /// Retained view state for an [`OwnedView`].
 #[derive(Debug, Clone)]
-pub struct OwnedViewState<T, R>
+pub struct OwnedViewState<T>
 where
-    T: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Mountable,
 {
    owner: Owner,
    state: T,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<T, R> OwnedViewState<T, R>
+impl<T> OwnedViewState<T>
 where
-    T: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Mountable,
 {
    /// Wraps a state with the given owner.
    fn new(state: T, owner: Owner) -> Self {
-        Self {
-            owner,
-            state,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
-        }
+        Self { owner, state }
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> Render<R> for OwnedView<T, R>
+impl<T> Render for OwnedView<T>
 where
-    T: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
 {
-    type State = OwnedViewState<T::State, R>;
+    type State = OwnedViewState<T::State>;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        let state = self.owner.with(|| self.view.build());
@@ -84,37 +65,33 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> AddAnyAttr<R> for OwnedView<T, R>
+impl<T> AddAnyAttr for OwnedView<T>
 where
-    T: AddAnyAttr<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: AddAnyAttr,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> =
-        OwnedView<T::Output<SomeNewAttr>, R>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = OwnedView<T::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
-        let OwnedView { owner, view, rndr } = self;
+        let OwnedView { owner, view } = self;
        OwnedView {
            owner,
            view: view.add_any_attr(attr),
-            rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> RenderHtml<R> for OwnedView<T, R>
+impl<T> RenderHtml for OwnedView<T>
 where
-    T: RenderHtml<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: RenderHtml,
 {
    // TODO
-    type AsyncOutput = OwnedView<T::AsyncOutput, R>;
+    type AsyncOutput = OwnedView<T::AsyncOutput>;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = T::MIN_LENGTH;

@@ -158,7 +135,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let state = self
@@ -168,11 +145,11 @@ where
    }

    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
-        let OwnedView { owner, view, rndr } = self;
+        let OwnedView { owner, view } = self;
        let view = owner
            .with(|| ScopedFuture::new(async move { view.resolve().await }))
            .await;
-        OwnedView { owner, view, rndr }
+        OwnedView { owner, view }
    }

    fn dry_resolve(&mut self) {
@@ -180,10 +157,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> Mountable<R> for OwnedViewState<T, R>
+impl<T> Mountable for OwnedViewState<T>
 where
-    T: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.state.unmount();
@@ -191,13 +167,13 @@ where

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        self.state.mount(parent, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.state.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }
--- a/tachys/src/reactive_graph/property.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/reactive_graph/property.rs
@@ -1,17 +1,13 @@
 use super::{ReactiveFunction, SharedReactiveFunction};
-use crate::{
-    html::property::IntoProperty,
-    renderer::{DomRenderer, Renderer},
-};
+use crate::{html::property::IntoProperty, renderer::Rndr};
 use reactive_graph::effect::RenderEffect;

 // These do update during hydration because properties don't exist in the DOM
-impl<F, V, R> IntoProperty<R> for F
+impl<F, V> IntoProperty for F
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = V>,
-    V: IntoProperty<R> + 'static,
+    V: IntoProperty + 'static,
    V::State: 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
 {
    type State = RenderEffect<V::State>;
    type Cloneable = SharedReactiveFunction<V>;
@@ -19,10 +15,10 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        mut self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
        key: &str,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        let key = R::intern(key);
+        let key = Rndr::intern(key);
        let key = key.to_owned();
        let el = el.to_owned();

@@ -39,10 +35,10 @@ where

    fn build(
        mut self,
-        el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
        key: &str,
    ) -> Self::State {
-        let key = R::intern(key);
+        let key = Rndr::intern(key);
        let key = key.to_owned();
        let el = el.to_owned();

@@ -85,10 +81,7 @@ where

 #[cfg(not(feature = "nightly"))]
 mod stable {
-    use crate::{
-        html::property::IntoProperty,
-        renderer::{DomRenderer, Renderer},
-    };
+    use crate::html::property::IntoProperty;
    use reactive_graph::{
        computed::{ArcMemo, Memo},
        effect::RenderEffect,
@@ -100,12 +93,11 @@ mod stable {

    macro_rules! property_signal {
        ($sig:ident) => {
-            impl<V, R> IntoProperty<R> for $sig<V>
+            impl<V> IntoProperty for $sig<V>
            where
                $sig<V>: Get<Value = V>,
-                V: IntoProperty<R> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
+                V: IntoProperty + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type State = RenderEffect<V::State>;
                type Cloneable = Self;
@@ -113,7 +105,7 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                    key: &str,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el, key)
@@ -121,7 +113,7 @@ mod stable {

                fn build(
                    self,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                    key: &str,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el, key)
@@ -144,14 +136,13 @@ mod stable {

    macro_rules! property_signal_arena {
        ($sig:ident) => {
-            impl<V, R, S> IntoProperty<R> for $sig<V, S>
+            impl<V, S> IntoProperty for $sig<V, S>
            where
                $sig<V, S>: Get<Value = V>,
                S: Send + Sync + 'static,
                S: Storage<V> + Storage<Option<V>>,
-                V: IntoProperty<R> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
+                V: IntoProperty + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
                V::State: 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type State = RenderEffect<V::State>;
                type Cloneable = Self;
@@ -159,7 +150,7 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                    key: &str,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el, key)
@@ -167,7 +158,7 @@ mod stable {

                fn build(
                    self,
-                    el: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                    key: &str,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el, key)
--- a/tachys/src/reactive_graph/style.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/reactive_graph/style.rs
@@ -1,18 +1,20 @@
 use super::{ReactiveFunction, SharedReactiveFunction, Suspend};
-use crate::{html::style::IntoStyle, renderer::DomRenderer};
+use crate::{html::style::IntoStyle, renderer::Rndr};
 use any_spawner::Executor;
 use futures::FutureExt;
 use reactive_graph::effect::RenderEffect;
 use std::{borrow::Cow, cell::RefCell, future::Future, rc::Rc};

-impl<F, S, R> IntoStyle<R> for (&'static str, F)
+impl<F, S> IntoStyle for (&'static str, F)
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = S>,
    S: Into<Cow<'static, str>> + 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;
-    type State = RenderEffect<(R::CssStyleDeclaration, Cow<'static, str>)>;
+    type State = RenderEffect<(
+        crate::renderer::types::CssStyleDeclaration,
+        Cow<'static, str>,
+    )>;
    type Cloneable = (&'static str, SharedReactiveFunction<S>);
    type CloneableOwned = (&'static str, SharedReactiveFunction<S>);

@@ -25,20 +27,23 @@ where
        style.push(';');
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
        let (name, mut f) = self;
-        let name = R::intern(name);
+        let name = Rndr::intern(name);
        // TODO FROM_SERVER vs template
-        let style = R::style(el);
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
        RenderEffect::new(move |prev| {
            let value = f.invoke().into();
            if let Some(mut state) = prev {
                let (style, prev): &mut (
-                    R::CssStyleDeclaration,
+                    crate::renderer::types::CssStyleDeclaration,
                    Cow<'static, str>,
                ) = &mut state;
                if &value != prev {
-                    R::set_css_property(style, name, &value);
+                    Rndr::set_css_property(style, name, &value);
                }
                *prev = value;
                state
@@ -46,32 +51,32 @@ where
                // only set the style in template mode
                // in server mode, it's already been set
                if !FROM_SERVER {
-                    R::set_css_property(&style, name, &value);
+                    Rndr::set_css_property(&style, name, &value);
                }
                (style.clone(), value)
            }
        })
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let (name, mut f) = self;
-        let name = R::intern(name);
-        let style = R::style(el);
+        let name = Rndr::intern(name);
+        let style = Rndr::style(el);
        RenderEffect::new(move |prev| {
            let value = f.invoke().into();
            if let Some(mut state) = prev {
                let (style, prev): &mut (
-                    R::CssStyleDeclaration,
+                    crate::renderer::types::CssStyleDeclaration,
                    Cow<'static, str>,
                ) = &mut state;
                if &value != prev {
-                    R::set_css_property(style, name, &value);
+                    Rndr::set_css_property(style, name, &value);
                }
                *prev = value;
                state
            } else {
                // always set the style initially without checking
-                R::set_css_property(&style, name, &value);
+                Rndr::set_css_property(&style, name, &value);
                (style.clone(), value)
            }
        })
@@ -86,7 +91,7 @@ where
                if let Some(mut state) = prev {
                    let (style, prev) = &mut state;
                    if &value != prev {
-                        R::set_css_property(style, name, &value);
+                        Rndr::set_css_property(style, name, &value);
                    }
                    *prev = value;
                    state
@@ -115,12 +120,11 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<F, C, R> IntoStyle<R> for F
+impl<F, C> IntoStyle for F
 where
    F: ReactiveFunction<Output = C>,
-    C: IntoStyle<R> + 'static,
+    C: IntoStyle + 'static,
    C::State: 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = C::AsyncOutput;
    type State = RenderEffect<C::State>;
@@ -134,7 +138,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        mut self,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        // TODO FROM_SERVER vs template
        let el = el.clone();
@@ -149,7 +153,7 @@ where
        })
    }

-    fn build(mut self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(mut self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let el = el.clone();
        RenderEffect::new(move |prev| {
            let value = self.invoke();
@@ -199,12 +203,11 @@ where
 mod stable {
    macro_rules! style_signal {
        ($sig:ident) => {
-            impl<C, R> IntoStyle<R> for $sig<C>
+            impl<C> IntoStyle for $sig<C>
            where
                $sig<C>: Get<Value = C>,
-                C: IntoStyle<R> + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
+                C: IntoStyle + Clone + Send + Sync + 'static,
                C::State: 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
                type State = RenderEffect<C::State>;
@@ -218,12 +221,15 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &R::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el)
                }

@@ -246,44 +252,42 @@ mod stable {
                }
            }

-            impl<R, S> IntoStyle<R> for (&'static str, $sig<S>)
+            impl<S> IntoStyle for (&'static str, $sig<S>)
            where
                $sig<S>: Get<Value = S>,
                S: Into<Cow<'static, str>> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
-                type State =
-                    RenderEffect<(R::CssStyleDeclaration, Cow<'static, str>)>;
+                type State = RenderEffect<(
+                    crate::renderer::types::CssStyleDeclaration,
+                    Cow<'static, str>,
+                )>;
                type Cloneable = Self;
                type CloneableOwned = Self;

                fn to_html(self, style: &mut String) {
-                    IntoStyle::<R>::to_html(
-                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
-                        style,
-                    )
+                    IntoStyle::to_html((self.0, move || self.1.get()), style)
                }

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &R::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
-                    IntoStyle::<R>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+                    IntoStyle::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
                        el,
                    )
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-                    IntoStyle::<R>::build((self.0, move || self.1.get()), el)
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
+                    IntoStyle::build((self.0, move || self.1.get()), el)
                }

                fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
-                    IntoStyle::<R>::rebuild(
-                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
-                        state,
-                    )
+                    IntoStyle::rebuild((self.0, move || self.1.get()), state)
                }

                fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
@@ -305,14 +309,13 @@ mod stable {

    macro_rules! style_signal_arena {
        ($sig:ident) => {
-            impl<C, R, S> IntoStyle<R> for $sig<C, S>
+            impl<C, S> IntoStyle for $sig<C, S>
            where
                $sig<C, S>: Get<Value = C>,
                S: Storage<C> + Storage<Option<C>>,
                S: Send + Sync + 'static,
-                C: IntoStyle<R> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
+                C: IntoStyle + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
                C::State: 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
                type State = RenderEffect<C::State>;
@@ -326,12 +329,15 @@ mod stable {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &R::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(el)
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
                    (move || self.get()).build(el)
                }

@@ -354,46 +360,44 @@ mod stable {
                }
            }

-            impl<R, S, St> IntoStyle<R> for (&'static str, $sig<S, St>)
+            impl<S, St> IntoStyle for (&'static str, $sig<S, St>)
            where
                $sig<S, St>: Get<Value = S>,
                St: Send + Sync + 'static,
                St: Storage<S> + Storage<Option<S>>,
                S: Into<Cow<'static, str>> + Send + Sync + Clone + 'static,
-                R: DomRenderer,
            {
                type AsyncOutput = Self;
-                type State =
-                    RenderEffect<(R::CssStyleDeclaration, Cow<'static, str>)>;
+                type State = RenderEffect<(
+                    crate::renderer::types::CssStyleDeclaration,
+                    Cow<'static, str>,
+                )>;
                type Cloneable = Self;
                type CloneableOwned = Self;

                fn to_html(self, style: &mut String) {
-                    IntoStyle::<R>::to_html(
-                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
-                        style,
-                    )
+                    IntoStyle::to_html((self.0, move || self.1.get()), style)
                }

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    el: &R::Element,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
                ) -> Self::State {
-                    IntoStyle::<R>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
+                    IntoStyle::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
                        el,
                    )
                }

-                fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-                    IntoStyle::<R>::build((self.0, move || self.1.get()), el)
+                fn build(
+                    self,
+                    el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                ) -> Self::State {
+                    IntoStyle::build((self.0, move || self.1.get()), el)
                }

                fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
-                    IntoStyle::<R>::rebuild(
-                        (self.0, move || self.1.get()),
-                        state,
-                    )
+                    IntoStyle::rebuild((self.0, move || self.1.get()), state)
                }

                fn into_cloneable(self) -> Self::Cloneable {
@@ -414,7 +418,7 @@ mod stable {
    }

    use super::RenderEffect;
-    use crate::{html::style::IntoStyle, renderer::DomRenderer};
+    use crate::html::style::IntoStyle;
    use reactive_graph::{
        computed::{ArcMemo, Memo},
        owner::Storage,
@@ -435,14 +439,13 @@ mod stable {
    style_signal!(ArcSignal);
 }

-impl<Fut, Rndr> IntoStyle<Rndr> for Suspend<Fut>
+impl<Fut> IntoStyle for Suspend<Fut>
 where
    Fut: Clone + Future + Send + 'static,
-    Fut::Output: IntoStyle<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: DomRenderer + 'static,
+    Fut::Output: IntoStyle,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Fut::Output;
-    type State = Rc<RefCell<Option<<Fut::Output as IntoStyle<Rndr>>::State>>>;
+    type State = Rc<RefCell<Option<<Fut::Output as IntoStyle>::State>>>;
    type Cloneable = Self;
    type CloneableOwned = Self;

@@ -456,7 +459,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &<Rndr>::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let el = el.to_owned();
        let state = Rc::new(RefCell::new(None));
@@ -471,7 +474,7 @@ where
        state
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &<Rndr>::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
        let el = el.to_owned();
        let state = Rc::new(RefCell::new(None));
        Executor::spawn_local({
--- a/tachys/src/reactive_graph/suspense.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/reactive_graph/suspense.rs
@@ -1,7 +1,6 @@
 use crate::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
    hydration::Cursor,
-    renderer::Renderer,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
    view::{
        add_attr::AddAnyAttr, iterators::OptionState, Mountable, Position,
@@ -130,39 +129,40 @@ impl<Fut> Debug for Suspend<Fut> {
 }

 /// Retained view state for [`Suspend`].
-pub struct SuspendState<T, Rndr>
+pub struct SuspendState<T>
 where
-    T: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
 {
-    inner: Rc<RefCell<OptionState<T, Rndr>>>,
+    inner: Rc<RefCell<OptionState<T>>>,
 }

-impl<T, Rndr> Mountable<Rndr> for SuspendState<T, Rndr>
+impl<T> Mountable for SuspendState<T>
 where
-    T: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.inner.borrow_mut().unmount();
    }

-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &Rndr::Element, marker: Option<&Rndr::Node>) {
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
        self.inner.borrow_mut().mount(parent, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Rndr>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.inner.borrow_mut().insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

-impl<Fut, Rndr> Render<Rndr> for Suspend<Fut>
+impl<Fut> Render for Suspend<Fut>
 where
    Fut: Future + 'static,
-    Fut::Output: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fut::Output: Render,
 {
-    type State = SuspendState<Fut::Output, Rndr>;
+    type State = SuspendState<Fut::Output>;

    // TODO cancelation if it fires multiple times
    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
@@ -235,17 +235,16 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Fut, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for Suspend<Fut>
+impl<Fut> AddAnyAttr for Suspend<Fut>
 where
    Fut: Future + Send + 'static,
-    Fut::Output: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fut::Output: AddAnyAttr,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = Suspend<
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = Suspend<
        Pin<
            Box<
                dyn Future<
-                        Output = <Fut::Output as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<
+                        Output = <Fut::Output as AddAnyAttr>::Output<
                            SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned,
                        >,
                    > + Send,
@@ -253,12 +252,12 @@ where
        >,
    >;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let attr = attr.into_cloneable_owned();
        Suspend::new(Box::pin(async move {
@@ -268,11 +267,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<Fut, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for Suspend<Fut>
+impl<Fut> RenderHtml for Suspend<Fut>
 where
    Fut: Future + Send + 'static,
-    Fut::Output: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer + 'static,
+    Fut::Output: RenderHtml,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Option<Fut::Output>;

@@ -329,7 +327,7 @@ where
                    // wrapped by suspense markers
                    if OUT_OF_ORDER {
                        let mut fallback_position = *position;
-                        buf.push_fallback::<(), Rndr>(
+                        buf.push_fallback::<()>(
                            (),
                            &mut fallback_position,
                            mark_branches,
@@ -364,7 +362,7 @@ where
    // TODO cancellation
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let Self { subscriber, inner } = self;
--- a/tachys/src/renderer/dom.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/renderer/dom.rs
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-use super::{CastFrom, DomRenderer, RemoveEventHandler, Renderer};
+use super::{CastFrom, RemoveEventHandler};
 use crate::{
    dom::{document, window},
    ok_or_debug, or_debug,
@@ -9,10 +9,7 @@ use once_cell::unsync::Lazy;
 use rustc_hash::FxHashSet;
 use std::{any::TypeId, borrow::Cow, cell::RefCell};
 use wasm_bindgen::{intern, prelude::Closure, JsCast, JsValue};
-use web_sys::{
-    Comment, CssStyleDeclaration, DomTokenList, Element, Event, HtmlElement,
-    HtmlTemplateElement, Node, Text,
-};
+use web_sys::{Comment, HtmlTemplateElement};

 /// A [`Renderer`] that uses `web-sys` to manipulate DOM elements in the browser.
 #[derive(Debug, Copy, Clone, PartialEq, Eq, Hash, PartialOrd, Ord)]
@@ -22,22 +19,30 @@ thread_local! {
    pub(crate) static GLOBAL_EVENTS: RefCell<FxHashSet<Cow<'static, str>>> = Default::default();
 }

-impl Renderer for Dom {
-    type Node = Node;
-    type Text = Text;
-    type Element = Element;
-    type Placeholder = Comment;
+pub type Node = web_sys::Node;
+pub type Text = web_sys::Text;
+pub type Element = web_sys::Element;
+pub type Placeholder = web_sys::Comment;
+pub type Event = wasm_bindgen::JsValue;
+pub type ClassList = web_sys::DomTokenList;
+pub type CssStyleDeclaration = web_sys::CssStyleDeclaration;
+pub type TemplateElement = web_sys::HtmlTemplateElement;

-    fn intern(text: &str) -> &str {
+impl Dom {
+    pub fn intern(text: &str) -> &str {
        intern(text)
    }

+    pub fn create_element(tag: &str) -> Element {
+        document().create_element(tag).unwrap()
+    }
+
    #[cfg_attr(feature = "tracing", tracing::instrument(level = "trace"))]
-    fn create_text_node(text: &str) -> Self::Text {
+    pub fn create_text_node(text: &str) -> Text {
        document().create_text_node(text)
    }

-    fn create_placeholder() -> Self::Placeholder {
+    pub fn create_placeholder() -> Placeholder {
        thread_local! {
            static COMMENT: Lazy<Comment> = Lazy::new(|| {
                document().create_comment("")
@@ -47,25 +52,25 @@ impl Renderer for Dom {
    }

    #[cfg_attr(feature = "tracing", tracing::instrument(level = "trace"))]
-    fn set_text(node: &Self::Text, text: &str) {
+    pub fn set_text(node: &Text, text: &str) {
        node.set_node_value(Some(text));
    }

    #[cfg_attr(feature = "tracing", tracing::instrument(level = "trace"))]
-    fn set_attribute(node: &Self::Element, name: &str, value: &str) {
+    pub fn set_attribute(node: &Element, name: &str, value: &str) {
        or_debug!(node.set_attribute(name, value), node, "setAttribute");
    }

    #[cfg_attr(feature = "tracing", tracing::instrument(level = "trace"))]
-    fn remove_attribute(node: &Self::Element, name: &str) {
+    pub fn remove_attribute(node: &Element, name: &str) {
        or_debug!(node.remove_attribute(name), node, "removeAttribute");
    }

    #[cfg_attr(feature = "tracing", tracing::instrument(level = "trace"))]
-    fn insert_node(
-        parent: &Self::Element,
-        new_child: &Self::Node,
-        anchor: Option<&Self::Node>,
+    pub fn insert_node(
+        parent: &Element,
+        new_child: &Node,
+        anchor: Option<&Node>,
    ) {
        ok_or_debug!(
            parent.insert_before(new_child, anchor),
@@ -75,23 +80,20 @@ impl Renderer for Dom {
    }

    #[cfg_attr(feature = "tracing", tracing::instrument(level = "trace"))]
-    fn remove_node(
-        parent: &Self::Element,
-        child: &Self::Node,
-    ) -> Option<Self::Node> {
+    pub fn remove_node(parent: &Element, child: &Node) -> Option<Node> {
        ok_or_debug!(parent.remove_child(child), parent, "removeNode")
    }

    #[cfg_attr(feature = "tracing", tracing::instrument(level = "trace"))]
-    fn remove(node: &Self::Node) {
+    pub fn remove(node: &Node) {
        node.unchecked_ref::<Element>().remove();
    }

-    fn get_parent(node: &Self::Node) -> Option<Self::Node> {
+    pub fn get_parent(node: &Node) -> Option<Node> {
        node.parent_node()
    }

-    fn first_child(node: &Self::Node) -> Option<Self::Node> {
+    pub fn first_child(node: &Node) -> Option<Node> {
        #[cfg(debug_assertions)]
        {
            let node = node.first_child();
@@ -116,7 +118,7 @@ impl Renderer for Dom {
        }
    }

-    fn next_sibling(node: &Self::Node) -> Option<Self::Node> {
+    pub fn next_sibling(node: &Node) -> Option<Node> {
        #[cfg(debug_assertions)]
        {
            let node = node.next_sibling();
@@ -141,23 +143,49 @@ impl Renderer for Dom {
        }
    }

-    fn log_node(node: &Self::Node) {
+    pub fn log_node(node: &Node) {
        web_sys::console::log_1(node);
    }

    #[cfg_attr(feature = "tracing", tracing::instrument(level = "trace"))]
-    fn clear_children(parent: &Self::Element) {
+    pub fn clear_children(parent: &Element) {
        parent.set_text_content(Some(""));
    }
-}

-impl DomRenderer for Dom {
-    type Event = JsValue;
-    type ClassList = DomTokenList;
-    type CssStyleDeclaration = CssStyleDeclaration;
-    type TemplateElement = HtmlTemplateElement;
+    /// Mounts the new child before the marker as its sibling.
+    ///
+    /// ## Panics
+    /// The default implementation panics if `before` does not have a parent [`crate::renderer::types::Element`].
+    pub fn mount_before<M>(new_child: &mut M, before: &Node)
+    where
+        M: Mountable,
+    {
+        let parent = Element::cast_from(
+            Self::get_parent(before).expect("could not find parent element"),
+        )
+        .expect("placeholder parent should be Element");
+        new_child.mount(&parent, Some(before));
+    }

-    fn set_property(el: &Self::Element, key: &str, value: &JsValue) {
+    /// Tries to mount the new child before the marker as its sibling.
+    ///
+    /// Returns `false` if the child did not have a valid parent.
+    #[track_caller]
+    pub fn try_mount_before<M>(new_child: &mut M, before: &Node) -> bool
+    where
+        M: Mountable,
+    {
+        if let Some(parent) =
+            Self::get_parent(before).and_then(Element::cast_from)
+        {
+            new_child.mount(&parent, Some(before));
+            true
+        } else {
+            false
+        }
+    }
+
+    pub fn set_property(el: &Element, key: &str, value: &JsValue) {
        or_debug!(
            js_sys::Reflect::set(
                el,
@@ -169,11 +197,11 @@ impl DomRenderer for Dom {
        );
    }

-    fn add_event_listener(
-        el: &Self::Element,
+    pub fn add_event_listener(
+        el: &Element,
        name: &str,
-        cb: Box<dyn FnMut(Self::Event)>,
-    ) -> RemoveEventHandler<Self::Element> {
+        cb: Box<dyn FnMut(Event)>,
+    ) -> RemoveEventHandler<Element> {
        let cb = wasm_bindgen::closure::Closure::wrap(cb);
        let name = intern(name);
        or_debug!(
@@ -191,7 +219,7 @@ impl DomRenderer for Dom {
            // safe to construct this here, because it will only run in the browser
            // so it will always be accessed or dropped from the main thread
            let cb = send_wrapper::SendWrapper::new(cb);
-            move |el: &Self::Element| {
+            move |el: &Element| {
                or_debug!(
                    el.remove_event_listener_with_callback(
                        intern(&name),
@@ -204,24 +232,24 @@ impl DomRenderer for Dom {
        })
    }

-    fn event_target<T>(ev: &Self::Event) -> T
+    pub fn event_target<T>(ev: &Event) -> T
    where
-        T: CastFrom<Self::Element>,
+        T: CastFrom<Element>,
    {
        let el = ev
-            .unchecked_ref::<Event>()
+            .unchecked_ref::<web_sys::Event>()
            .target()
            .expect("event.target not found")
            .unchecked_into::<Element>();
        T::cast_from(el).expect("incorrect element type")
    }

-    fn add_event_listener_delegated(
-        el: &Self::Element,
+    pub fn add_event_listener_delegated(
+        el: &Element,
        name: Cow<'static, str>,
        delegation_key: Cow<'static, str>,
-        cb: Box<dyn FnMut(Self::Event)>,
-    ) -> RemoveEventHandler<Self::Element> {
+        cb: Box<dyn FnMut(Event)>,
+    ) -> RemoveEventHandler<Element> {
        let cb = Closure::wrap(cb);
        let key = intern(&delegation_key);
        or_debug!(
@@ -304,7 +332,7 @@ impl DomRenderer for Dom {
            // safe to construct this here, because it will only run in the browser
            // so it will always be accessed or dropped from the main thread
            let cb = send_wrapper::SendWrapper::new(cb);
-            move |el: &Self::Element| {
+            move |el: &Element| {
                drop(cb.take());
                or_debug!(
                    js_sys::Reflect::delete_property(
@@ -318,24 +346,24 @@ impl DomRenderer for Dom {
        })
    }

-    fn class_list(el: &Self::Element) -> Self::ClassList {
+    pub fn class_list(el: &Element) -> ClassList {
        el.class_list()
    }

-    fn add_class(list: &Self::ClassList, name: &str) {
+    pub fn add_class(list: &ClassList, name: &str) {
        or_debug!(list.add_1(name), list.unchecked_ref(), "add()");
    }

-    fn remove_class(list: &Self::ClassList, name: &str) {
+    pub fn remove_class(list: &ClassList, name: &str) {
        or_debug!(list.remove_1(name), list.unchecked_ref(), "remove()");
    }

-    fn style(el: &Self::Element) -> Self::CssStyleDeclaration {
-        el.unchecked_ref::<HtmlElement>().style()
+    pub fn style(el: &Element) -> CssStyleDeclaration {
+        el.unchecked_ref::<web_sys::HtmlElement>().style()
    }

-    fn set_css_property(
-        style: &Self::CssStyleDeclaration,
+    pub fn set_css_property(
+        style: &CssStyleDeclaration,
        name: &str,
        value: &str,
    ) {
@@ -346,11 +374,11 @@ impl DomRenderer for Dom {
        );
    }

-    fn set_inner_html(el: &Self::Element, html: &str) {
+    pub fn set_inner_html(el: &Element, html: &str) {
        el.set_inner_html(html);
    }

-    fn get_template<V>() -> Self::TemplateElement
+    pub fn get_template<V>() -> TemplateElement
    where
        V: ToTemplate + 'static,
    {
@@ -384,14 +412,14 @@ impl DomRenderer for Dom {
        })
    }

-    fn clone_template(tpl: &Self::TemplateElement) -> Self::Element {
+    pub fn clone_template(tpl: &TemplateElement) -> Element {
        tpl.content()
            .clone_node_with_deep(true)
            .unwrap()
            .unchecked_into()
    }

-    fn create_element_from_html(html: &str) -> Self::Element {
+    pub fn create_element_from_html(html: &str) -> Element {
        // TODO can be optimized to cache HTML strings or cache <template>?
        let tpl = document().create_element("template").unwrap();
        tpl.set_inner_html(html);
@@ -399,7 +427,7 @@ impl DomRenderer for Dom {
    }
 }

-impl Mountable<Dom> for Node {
+impl Mountable for Node {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        todo!()
    }
@@ -408,7 +436,7 @@ impl Mountable<Dom> for Node {
        Dom::insert_node(parent, self, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Dom>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        let parent = Dom::get_parent(self).and_then(Element::cast_from);
        if let Some(parent) = parent {
            child.mount(&parent, Some(self));
@@ -418,7 +446,7 @@ impl Mountable<Dom> for Node {
    }
 }

-impl Mountable<Dom> for Text {
+impl Mountable for Text {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.remove();
    }
@@ -427,7 +455,7 @@ impl Mountable<Dom> for Text {
        Dom::insert_node(parent, self, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Dom>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        let parent =
            Dom::get_parent(self.as_ref()).and_then(Element::cast_from);
        if let Some(parent) = parent {
@@ -438,7 +466,7 @@ impl Mountable<Dom> for Text {
    }
 }

-impl Mountable<Dom> for Comment {
+impl Mountable for Comment {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.remove();
    }
@@ -447,7 +475,7 @@ impl Mountable<Dom> for Comment {
        Dom::insert_node(parent, self, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Dom>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        let parent =
            Dom::get_parent(self.as_ref()).and_then(Element::cast_from);
        if let Some(parent) = parent {
@@ -458,7 +486,7 @@ impl Mountable<Dom> for Comment {
    }
 }

-impl Mountable<Dom> for Element {
+impl Mountable for Element {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.remove();
    }
@@ -467,7 +495,7 @@ impl Mountable<Dom> for Element {
        Dom::insert_node(parent, self, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Dom>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        let parent =
            Dom::get_parent(self.as_ref()).and_then(Element::cast_from);
        if let Some(parent) = parent {
--- a/tachys/src/renderer/mock_dom.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/renderer/mock_dom.rs
@@ -420,7 +420,7 @@ impl Mountable<MockDom> for Placeholder {
 }

 impl<E: ElementType> CreateElement<MockDom> for E {
-    fn create_element(&self) -> <MockDom as Renderer>::Element {
+    fn create_element(&self) -> crate::renderer::types::Element {
        document().create_element(E::TAG)
    }
 }
--- a/tachys/src/renderer/mod.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/renderer/mod.rs
@@ -1,55 +1,56 @@
-use crate::{
-    html::element::CreateElement,
-    view::{Mountable, ToTemplate},
-};
+use crate::view::{Mountable, ToTemplate};
 use std::{borrow::Cow, fmt::Debug};
 use wasm_bindgen::JsValue;

 /// A DOM renderer.
 pub mod dom;
-#[cfg(feature = "testing")]
+
+pub type Rndr = dom::Dom;
+pub mod types {
+    pub use super::dom::{
+        ClassList, CssStyleDeclaration, Element, Event, Node, Placeholder,
+        TemplateElement, Text,
+    };
+}
+
+/* #[cfg(feature = "testing")]
 /// A renderer based on a mock DOM.
 pub mod mock_dom;
 /// A DOM renderer optimized for element creation.
 #[cfg(feature = "sledgehammer")]
-pub mod sledgehammer;
+pub mod sledgehammer; */

 /// Implements the instructions necessary to render an interface on some platform.
+///
 /// By default, this is implemented for the Document Object Model (DOM) in a Web
 /// browser, but implementing this trait for some other platform allows you to use
 /// the library to render any tree-based UI.
 pub trait Renderer: Send + Sized + Debug + 'static {
    /// The basic type of node in the view tree.
-    type Node: Mountable<Self> + Clone + 'static;
+    type Node: Mountable + Clone + 'static;
    /// A visible element in the view tree.
    type Element: AsRef<Self::Node>
        + CastFrom<Self::Node>
-        + Mountable<Self>
+        + Mountable
        + Clone
        + 'static;
    /// A text node in the view tree.
    type Text: AsRef<Self::Node>
        + CastFrom<Self::Node>
-        + Mountable<Self>
+        + Mountable
        + Clone
        + 'static;
    /// A placeholder node, which can be inserted into the tree but does not
    /// appear (e.g., a comment node in the DOM).
    type Placeholder: AsRef<Self::Node>
        + CastFrom<Self::Node>
-        + Mountable<Self>
+        + Mountable
        + Clone
        + 'static;

    /// Interns a string slice, if that is available on this platform and useful as an optimization.
    fn intern(text: &str) -> &str;

-    /// Creates a new element node.
-    #[track_caller]
-    fn create_element<E: CreateElement<Self>>(tag: E) -> Self::Element {
-        tag.create_element()
-    }
-
    /// Creates a new text node.
    fn create_text_node(text: &str) -> Self::Text;

@@ -73,39 +74,6 @@ pub trait Renderer: Send + Sized + Debug + 'static {
        marker: Option<&Self::Node>,
    );

-    /// Mounts the new child before the marker as its sibling.
-    ///
-    /// ## Panics
-    /// The default implementation panics if `before` does not have a parent [`R::Element`].
-    fn mount_before<M>(new_child: &mut M, before: &Self::Node)
-    where
-        M: Mountable<Self>,
-    {
-        let parent = Self::Element::cast_from(
-            Self::get_parent(before).expect("could not find parent element"),
-        )
-        .expect("placeholder parent should be Element");
-        new_child.mount(&parent, Some(before));
-    }
-
-    /// Tries to mount the new child before the marker as its sibling.
-    ///
-    /// Returns `false` if the child did not have a valid parent.
-    #[track_caller]
-    fn try_mount_before<M>(new_child: &mut M, before: &Self::Node) -> bool
-    where
-        M: Mountable<Self>,
-    {
-        if let Some(parent) =
-            Self::get_parent(before).and_then(Self::Element::cast_from)
-        {
-            new_child.mount(&parent, Some(before));
-            true
-        } else {
-            false
-        }
-    }
-
    /// Removes the child node from the parents, and returns the removed node.
    fn remove_node(
        parent: &Self::Element,
--- a/tachys/src/ssr/mod.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/ssr/mod.rs
@@ -1,7 +1,4 @@
-use crate::{
-    renderer::Renderer,
-    view::{Position, RenderHtml},
-};
+use crate::view::{Position, RenderHtml};
 use futures::Stream;
 use std::{
    collections::VecDeque,
@@ -100,14 +97,13 @@ impl StreamBuilder {

    // Out-of-Order Streaming
    /// Pushes a fallback for out-of-order streaming.
-    pub fn push_fallback<View, Rndr>(
+    pub fn push_fallback<View>(
        &mut self,
        fallback: View,
        position: &mut Position,
        mark_branches: bool,
    ) where
-        View: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-        Rndr: Renderer,
+        View: RenderHtml,
    {
        self.write_chunk_marker(true);
        fallback.to_html_with_buf(
@@ -158,14 +154,13 @@ impl StreamBuilder {
    }

    /// Injects an out-of-order chunk into the stream.
-    pub fn push_async_out_of_order<View, Rndr>(
+    pub fn push_async_out_of_order<View>(
        &mut self,
        view: impl Future<Output = Option<View>> + Send + 'static,
        position: &mut Position,
        mark_branches: bool,
    ) where
-        View: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-        Rndr: Renderer,
+        View: RenderHtml,
    {
        let id = self.clone_id();
        // copy so it's not updated by additional iterations
--- a/tachys/src/svg/mod.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/svg/mod.rs
@@ -1,15 +1,11 @@
 use crate::{
    html::{
        attribute::Attribute,
-        element::{
-            CreateElement, ElementType, ElementWithChildren, HtmlElement,
-        },
+        element::{ElementType, ElementWithChildren, HtmlElement},
    },
-    renderer::{dom::Dom, Renderer},
    view::Render,
 };
-use once_cell::unsync::Lazy;
-use std::{fmt::Debug, marker::PhantomData};
+use std::fmt::Debug;

 macro_rules! svg_elements {
 	($($tag:ident  [$($attr:ty),*]),* $(,)?) => {
@@ -18,15 +14,15 @@ macro_rules! svg_elements {
                /// An SVG attribute.
                // `tag()` function
                #[allow(non_snake_case)]
-                pub fn $tag<Rndr>() -> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], (), (), Rndr>
+                pub fn $tag() -> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], (), ()>
                where
-                    Rndr: Renderer
+
                {
                    HtmlElement {
                        tag: [<$tag:camel>],
                        attributes: (),
                        children: (),
-                        rndr: PhantomData,
+
                    }
                }

@@ -34,30 +30,30 @@ macro_rules! svg_elements {
                #[derive(Debug, Copy, Clone, PartialEq, Eq)]
                pub struct [<$tag:camel>];

-				impl<At, Ch, Rndr> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], At, Ch, Rndr>
+				impl<At, Ch> HtmlElement<[<$tag:camel>], At, Ch>
 				where
-					At: Attribute<Rndr>,
-					Ch: Render<Rndr>,
-					Rndr: Renderer,
+					At: Attribute,
+					Ch: Render,
+
 				{
 					$(
                        pub fn $attr<V>(self, value: V) -> HtmlElement <
                            [<$tag:camel>],
-                            <At as NextTuple<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>>::Output,
-                            Ch, Rndr
+                            <At as NextTuple<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>>::Output,
+                            Ch
                        >
                        where
-                            V: AttributeValue<Rndr>,
-                            At: NextTuple<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>,
-                            <At as NextTuple<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V, Rndr>>>::Output: Attribute<Rndr>,
+                            V: AttributeValue,
+                            At: NextTuple<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>,
+                            <At as NextTuple<Attr<$crate::html::attribute::[<$attr:camel>], V>>>::Output: Attribute,
                        {
-                            let HtmlElement { tag, rndr, children, attributes,
+                            let HtmlElement { tag, children, attributes,
                                #[cfg(debug_assertions)]
                                defined_at
                            } = self;
                            HtmlElement {
                                tag,
-                                rndr,
+
                                children,
                                attributes: attributes.next_tuple($crate::html::attribute::$attr(value)),
                                #[cfg(debug_assertions)]
@@ -81,22 +77,6 @@ macro_rules! svg_elements {
                }

                impl ElementWithChildren for [<$tag:camel>] {}
-
-                impl CreateElement<Dom> for [<$tag:camel>] {
-                    fn create_element(&self) -> <Dom as Renderer>::Element {
-                        use wasm_bindgen::JsCast;
-
-                        thread_local! {
-                            static ELEMENT: Lazy<<Dom as Renderer>::Element> = Lazy::new(|| {
-                                crate::dom::document().create_element_ns(
-									Some(wasm_bindgen::intern("http://www.w3.org/2000/svg")),
-									stringify!($tag)
-								).unwrap()
-                            });
-                        }
-                        ELEMENT.with(|e| e.clone_node()).unwrap().unchecked_into()
-                    }
-                }
            )*
 		}
    }
--- a/tachys/src/view/add_attr.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/add_attr.rs
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
-use super::{BoxedView, RenderHtml, WrappedView};
-use crate::{html::attribute::Attribute, renderer::Renderer};
+use super::RenderHtml;
+use crate::html::attribute::Attribute;

 /// Allows adding a new attribute to some type, before it is rendered.
 /// This takes place at compile time as part of the builder syntax for creating a statically typed
@@ -8,34 +8,28 @@ use crate::{html::attribute::Attribute, renderer::Renderer};
 /// Normally, this is used to add an attribute to an HTML element. But it is required to be
 /// implemented for all types that implement [`RenderHtml`], so that attributes can be spread onto
 /// other structures like the return type of a component.
-pub trait AddAnyAttr<Rndr>
-where
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-{
+pub trait AddAnyAttr {
    /// The new type once the attribute has been added.
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>: RenderHtml<Rndr>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute>: RenderHtml;

    /// Adds an attribute to the view.
-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>;
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml;
 }

 /// Declares that spreading attributes onto a particular type has no effect.
 #[macro_export]
 macro_rules! no_attrs {
    ($ty_name:ty) => {
-        impl<'a, R> $crate::view::add_attr::AddAnyAttr<R> for $ty_name
-        where
-            R: Renderer,
-        {
-            type Output<SomeNewAttr: $crate::html::attribute::Attribute<R>> =
+        impl<'a> $crate::view::add_attr::AddAnyAttr for $ty_name {
+            type Output<SomeNewAttr: $crate::html::attribute::Attribute> =
                $ty_name;

-            fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: $crate::html::attribute::Attribute<R>>(
+            fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: $crate::html::attribute::Attribute>(
                self,
                _attr: NewAttr,
            ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -44,41 +38,3 @@ macro_rules! no_attrs {
        }
    };
 }
-
-impl<T, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for BoxedView<T>
-where
-    T: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-{
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> =
-        BoxedView<T::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;
-
-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
-        self,
-        attr: NewAttr,
-    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
-    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    {
-        BoxedView::new(self.into_inner().add_any_attr(attr))
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for WrappedView<T>
-where
-    T: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-{
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> =
-        WrappedView<T::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;
-
-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
-        self,
-        attr: NewAttr,
-    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
-    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    {
-        WrappedView::new(self.into_inner().add_any_attr(attr))
-    }
-}
--- a/tachys/src/view/any_view.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/any_view.rs
@@ -1,17 +1,15 @@
 #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
 use super::MarkBranch;
 use super::{
-    add_attr::AddAnyAttr, BoxedView, Mountable, Position, PositionState,
-    Render, RenderHtml,
+    add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
+    RenderHtml,
 };
 use crate::{
-    html::attribute::Attribute, hydration::Cursor, renderer::Renderer,
-    ssr::StreamBuilder,
+    html::attribute::Attribute, hydration::Cursor, ssr::StreamBuilder,
 };
 use std::{
    any::{Any, TypeId},
    fmt::Debug,
-    marker::PhantomData,
 };
 #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
 use std::{future::Future, pin::Pin};
@@ -26,10 +24,7 @@ use std::{future::Future, pin::Pin};
 /// Generally speaking, using `AnyView` restricts the amount of information available to the
 /// compiler and should be limited to situations in which it is necessary to preserve the maximum
 /// amount of type information possible.
-pub struct AnyView<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+pub struct AnyView {
    type_id: TypeId,
    value: Box<dyn Any + Send>,

@@ -47,38 +42,34 @@ where
    #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
    to_html_async_ooo:
        fn(Box<dyn Any>, &mut StreamBuilder, &mut Position, bool, bool),
-    build: fn(Box<dyn Any>) -> AnyViewState<R>,
-    rebuild: fn(TypeId, Box<dyn Any>, &mut AnyViewState<R>),
+    build: fn(Box<dyn Any>) -> AnyViewState,
+    rebuild: fn(TypeId, Box<dyn Any>, &mut AnyViewState),
    #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
    #[allow(clippy::type_complexity)]
-    resolve:
-        fn(Box<dyn Any>) -> Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyView<R>> + Send>>,
+    resolve: fn(Box<dyn Any>) -> Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyView> + Send>>,
    #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
    dry_resolve: fn(&mut Box<dyn Any + Send>),
    #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
    #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
    #[allow(clippy::type_complexity)]
    hydrate_from_server:
-        fn(Box<dyn Any>, &Cursor<R>, &PositionState) -> AnyViewState<R>,
+        fn(Box<dyn Any>, &Cursor, &PositionState) -> AnyViewState,
 }

 /// Retained view state for [`AnyView`].
-pub struct AnyViewState<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+pub struct AnyViewState {
    type_id: TypeId,
    state: Box<dyn Any>,
    unmount: fn(&mut dyn Any),
-    mount: fn(&mut dyn Any, parent: &R::Element, marker: Option<&R::Node>),
-    insert_before_this: fn(&dyn Any, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
+    mount: fn(
+        &mut dyn Any,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ),
+    insert_before_this: fn(&dyn Any, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool,
 }

-impl<R> Debug for AnyViewState<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl Debug for AnyViewState {
    fn fmt(&self, f: &mut std::fmt::Formatter<'_>) -> std::fmt::Result {
        f.debug_struct("AnyViewState")
            .field("type_id", &self.type_id)
@@ -86,28 +77,23 @@ where
            .field("unmount", &self.unmount)
            .field("mount", &self.mount)
            .field("insert_before_this", &self.insert_before_this)
-            .field("rndr", &self.rndr)
            .finish()
    }
 }

 /// Allows converting some view into [`AnyView`].
-pub trait IntoAny<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+pub trait IntoAny {
    /// Converts the view into a type-erased [`AnyView`].
-    fn into_any(self) -> AnyView<R>;
+    fn into_any(self) -> AnyView;
 }

-fn mount_any<R, T>(
+fn mount_any<T>(
    state: &mut dyn Any,
-    parent: &R::Element,
-    marker: Option<&R::Node>,
+    parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
 ) where
-    T: Render<R>,
+    T: Render,
    T::State: 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
    let state = state
        .downcast_mut::<T::State>()
@@ -115,11 +101,10 @@ fn mount_any<R, T>(
    state.mount(parent, marker)
 }

-fn unmount_any<R, T>(state: &mut dyn Any)
+fn unmount_any<T>(state: &mut dyn Any)
 where
-    T: Render<R>,
+    T: Render,
    T::State: 'static,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
    let state = state
        .downcast_mut::<T::State>()
@@ -127,14 +112,10 @@ where
    state.unmount();
 }

-fn insert_before_this<R, T>(
-    state: &dyn Any,
-    child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>,
-) -> bool
+fn insert_before_this<T>(state: &dyn Any, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool
 where
-    T: Render<R>,
+    T: Render,
    T::State: 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
 {
    let state = state
        .downcast_ref::<T::State>()
@@ -142,17 +123,16 @@ where
    state.insert_before_this(child)
 }

-impl<T, R> IntoAny<R> for T
+impl<T> IntoAny for T
 where
    T: Send,
-    T: RenderHtml<R> + 'static,
+    T: RenderHtml + 'static,
    T::State: 'static,
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
 {
    // inlining allows the compiler to remove the unused functions
    // i.e., doesn't ship HTML-generating code that isn't used
    #[inline(always)]
-    fn into_any(self) -> AnyView<R> {
+    fn into_any(self) -> AnyView {
        #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
        let html_len = self.html_len();

@@ -172,7 +152,7 @@ where
                .downcast::<T>()
                .expect("AnyView::resolve could not be downcast");
            Box::pin(async move { value.resolve().await.into_any() })
-                as Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyView<R>> + Send>>
+                as Pin<Box<dyn Future<Output = AnyView> + Send>>
        };
        #[cfg(feature = "ssr")]
        let to_html = |value: Box<dyn Any>,
@@ -245,17 +225,15 @@ where
            AnyViewState {
                type_id: TypeId::of::<T>(),
                state,
-                rndr: PhantomData,
-                mount: mount_any::<R, T>,
-                unmount: unmount_any::<R, T>,
-                insert_before_this: insert_before_this::<R, T>,
+
+                mount: mount_any::<T>,
+                unmount: unmount_any::<T>,
+                insert_before_this: insert_before_this::<T>,
            }
        };
        #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
        let hydrate_from_server =
-            |value: Box<dyn Any>,
-             cursor: &Cursor<R>,
-             position: &PositionState| {
+            |value: Box<dyn Any>, cursor: &Cursor, position: &PositionState| {
                let value = value
                    .downcast::<T>()
                    .expect("AnyView::hydrate_from_server couldn't downcast");
@@ -264,16 +242,16 @@ where
                AnyViewState {
                    type_id: TypeId::of::<T>(),
                    state,
-                    rndr: PhantomData,
-                    mount: mount_any::<R, T>,
-                    unmount: unmount_any::<R, T>,
-                    insert_before_this: insert_before_this::<R, T>,
+
+                    mount: mount_any::<T>,
+                    unmount: unmount_any::<T>,
+                    insert_before_this: insert_before_this::<T>,
                }
            };

        let rebuild = |new_type_id: TypeId,
                       value: Box<dyn Any>,
-                       state: &mut AnyViewState<R>| {
+                       state: &mut AnyViewState| {
            let value = value
                .downcast::<T>()
                .expect("AnyView::rebuild couldn't downcast value");
@@ -290,6 +268,7 @@ where
                *state = new;
            }
        };
+
        AnyView {
            type_id: TypeId::of::<T>(),
            value,
@@ -313,11 +292,8 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> Render<R> for AnyView<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
-{
-    type State = AnyViewState<R>;
+impl Render for AnyView {
+    type State = AnyViewState;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        (self.build)(self.value)
@@ -328,27 +304,21 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> AddAnyAttr<R> for AnyView<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
-{
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> = Self;
+impl AddAnyAttr for AnyView {
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = Self;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        _attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        todo!()
    }
 }

-impl<R> RenderHtml<R> for AnyView<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
-{
+impl RenderHtml for AnyView {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    fn dry_resolve(&mut self) {
@@ -441,7 +411,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        #[cfg(feature = "hydrate")]
@@ -476,19 +446,20 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R> Mountable<R> for AnyViewState<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer + 'static,
-{
+impl Mountable for AnyViewState {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        (self.unmount)(&mut *self.state)
    }

-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &R::Element, marker: Option<&R::Node>) {
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
        (self.mount)(&mut *self.state, parent, marker)
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        (self.insert_before_this)(&*self.state, child)
    }
 }
--- a/tachys/src/view/either.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/either.rs
@@ -3,18 +3,15 @@ use super::{
    Render, RenderHtml,
 };
 use crate::{
-    html::attribute::Attribute, hydration::Cursor, renderer::Renderer,
-    ssr::StreamBuilder,
+    html::attribute::Attribute, hydration::Cursor, ssr::StreamBuilder,
 };
 use either_of::*;
 use futures::future::join;
-use std::marker::PhantomData;

-impl<A, B, Rndr> Render<Rndr> for Either<A, B>
+impl<A, B> Render for Either<A, B>
 where
-    A: Render<Rndr>,
-    B: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: Render,
+    B: Render,
 {
    type State = Either<A::State, B::State>;

@@ -49,11 +46,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> Mountable<Rndr> for Either<A, B>
+impl<A, B> Mountable for Either<A, B>
 where
-    A: Mountable<Rndr>,
-    B: Mountable<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: Mountable,
+    B: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        match self {
@@ -64,8 +60,8 @@ where

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<Rndr as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<Rndr as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        match self {
            Either::Left(left) => left.mount(parent, marker),
@@ -73,7 +69,7 @@ where
        }
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Rndr>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        match &self {
            Either::Left(left) => left.insert_before_this(child),
            Either::Right(right) => right.insert_before_this(child),
@@ -81,23 +77,22 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for Either<A, B>
+impl<A, B> AddAnyAttr for Either<A, B>
 where
-    A: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    B: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: RenderHtml,
+    B: RenderHtml,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = Either<
-        <A as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>,
-        <B as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>,
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = Either<
+        <A as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr>,
+        <B as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr>,
    >;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        match self {
            Either::Left(i) => Either::Left(i.add_any_attr(attr)),
@@ -119,11 +114,10 @@ const fn max_usize(vals: &[usize]) -> usize {
    max
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for Either<A, B>
+impl<A, B> RenderHtml for Either<A, B>
 where
-    A: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    B: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: RenderHtml,
+    B: RenderHtml,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Either<A::AsyncOutput, B::AsyncOutput>;

@@ -223,7 +217,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        match self {
@@ -254,11 +248,10 @@ pub struct EitherKeepAliveState<A, B> {
    showing_b: bool,
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> Render<Rndr> for EitherKeepAlive<A, B>
+impl<A, B> Render for EitherKeepAlive<A, B>
 where
-    A: Render<Rndr>,
-    B: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: Render,
+    B: Render,
 {
    type State = EitherKeepAliveState<A::State, B::State>;

@@ -307,23 +300,22 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for EitherKeepAlive<A, B>
+impl<A, B> AddAnyAttr for EitherKeepAlive<A, B>
 where
-    A: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    B: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: RenderHtml,
+    B: RenderHtml,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = EitherKeepAlive<
-        <A as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>,
-        <B as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>,
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = EitherKeepAlive<
+        <A as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>,
+        <B as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>,
    >;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let EitherKeepAlive { a, b, show_b } = self;
        let attr = attr.into_cloneable();
@@ -335,11 +327,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for EitherKeepAlive<A, B>
+impl<A, B> RenderHtml for EitherKeepAlive<A, B>
 where
-    A: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    B: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: RenderHtml,
+    B: RenderHtml,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = EitherKeepAlive<A::AsyncOutput, B::AsyncOutput>;

@@ -424,7 +415,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let showing_b = self.show_b;
@@ -447,11 +438,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<A, B, Rndr> Mountable<Rndr> for EitherKeepAliveState<A, B>
+impl<A, B> Mountable for EitherKeepAliveState<A, B>
 where
-    A: Mountable<Rndr>,
-    B: Mountable<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: Mountable,
+    B: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        if self.showing_b {
@@ -463,8 +453,8 @@ where

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<Rndr as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<Rndr as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        if self.showing_b {
            self.b
@@ -479,7 +469,7 @@ where
        }
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Rndr>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        if self.showing_b {
            self.b
                .as_ref()
@@ -498,21 +488,19 @@ macro_rules! tuples {
    ($num:literal => $($ty:ident),*) => {
        paste::paste! {
            #[doc = concat!("Retained view state for ", stringify!([<EitherOf $num>]), ".")]
-            pub struct [<EitherOf $num State>]<$($ty,)* Rndr>
+            pub struct [<EitherOf $num State>]<$($ty,)*>
            where
-                $($ty: Render<Rndr>,)*
-                Rndr: Renderer
+                $($ty: Render,)*
+
            {
                /// Which child view state is being displayed.
                pub state: [<EitherOf $num>]<$($ty::State,)*>,
-                /// The renderer.
-                pub rndr: PhantomData<Rndr>
            }

-            impl<$($ty,)* Rndr> Mountable<Rndr> for [<EitherOf $num State>]<$($ty,)* Rndr>
+            impl<$($ty,)*> Mountable for [<EitherOf $num State>]<$($ty,)*>
            where
-                $($ty: Render<Rndr>,)*
-                Rndr: Renderer
+                $($ty: Render,)*
+
            {
                fn unmount(&mut self) {
                    match &mut self.state {
@@ -522,8 +510,8 @@ macro_rules! tuples {

                fn mount(
                    &mut self,
-                    parent: &<Rndr as Renderer>::Element,
-                    marker: Option<&<Rndr as Renderer>::Node>,
+                    parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+                    marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
                ) {
                    match &mut self.state {
                        $([<EitherOf $num>]::$ty(this) => [<EitherOf $num>]::$ty(this.mount(parent, marker)),)*
@@ -531,7 +519,7 @@ macro_rules! tuples {
                }

                fn insert_before_this(&self,
-                    child: &mut dyn Mountable<Rndr>,
+                    child: &mut dyn Mountable,
                ) -> bool {
                    match &self.state {
                        $([<EitherOf $num>]::$ty(this) =>this.insert_before_this(child),)*
@@ -539,19 +527,19 @@ macro_rules! tuples {
                }
            }

-            impl<Rndr, $($ty,)*> Render<Rndr> for [<EitherOf $num>]<$($ty,)*>
+            impl<$($ty,)*> Render for [<EitherOf $num>]<$($ty,)*>
            where
-                $($ty: Render<Rndr>,)*
-                Rndr: Renderer
+                $($ty: Render,)*
+
            {
-                type State = [<EitherOf $num State>]<$($ty,)* Rndr>;
+                type State = [<EitherOf $num State>]<$($ty,)*>;


                fn build(self) -> Self::State {
                    let state = match self {
                        $([<EitherOf $num>]::$ty(this) => [<EitherOf $num>]::$ty(this.build()),)*
                    };
-                    Self::State { state, rndr: PhantomData }
+                    Self::State { state }
                }

                fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
@@ -576,21 +564,21 @@ macro_rules! tuples {
                }
            }

-            impl<Rndr, $($ty,)*> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for [<EitherOf $num>]<$($ty,)*>
+            impl<$($ty,)*> AddAnyAttr for [<EitherOf $num>]<$($ty,)*>
            where
-                $($ty: RenderHtml<Rndr>,)*
-                Rndr: Renderer,
+                $($ty: RenderHtml,)*
+
            {
-                type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = [<EitherOf $num>]<
-                    $(<$ty as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>,)*
+                type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = [<EitherOf $num>]<
+                    $(<$ty as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr>,)*
                >;

-                fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+                fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
                    self,
                    attr: NewAttr,
                ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
                where
-                    Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+                    Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
                {
                    match self {
                        $([<EitherOf $num>]::$ty(this) => [<EitherOf $num>]::$ty(this.add_any_attr(attr)),)*
@@ -598,10 +586,10 @@ macro_rules! tuples {
                }
            }

-            impl<Rndr, $($ty,)*> RenderHtml<Rndr> for [<EitherOf $num>]<$($ty,)*>
+            impl<$($ty,)*> RenderHtml for [<EitherOf $num>]<$($ty,)*>
            where
-                $($ty: RenderHtml<Rndr>,)*
-                Rndr: Renderer,
+                $($ty: RenderHtml,)*
+
            {
                type AsyncOutput = [<EitherOf $num>]<$($ty::AsyncOutput,)*>;

@@ -663,7 +651,7 @@ macro_rules! tuples {

                fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
                    self,
-                    cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+                    cursor: &Cursor,
                    position: &PositionState,
                ) -> Self::State {
                    let state = match self {
@@ -672,7 +660,7 @@ macro_rules! tuples {
                        })*
                    };

-                    Self::State { state, rndr: PhantomData }
+                    Self::State { state }
                }
            }
        }
--- a/tachys/src/view/error_boundary.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/error_boundary.rs
@@ -3,26 +3,25 @@ use crate::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
    hydration::Cursor,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
-    view::{iterators::OptionState, Mountable, Render, Renderer},
+    view::{iterators::OptionState, Mountable, Render},
 };
 use either_of::Either;
 use std::sync::Arc;
 use throw_error::{Error as AnyError, ErrorHook};

-impl<R, T, E> Render<R> for Result<T, E>
+impl<T, E> Render for Result<T, E>
 where
-    T: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
    E: Into<AnyError> + 'static,
 {
-    type State = ResultState<T, R>;
+    type State = ResultState<T>;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        let hook = throw_error::get_error_hook();
        let (state, error) = match self {
            Ok(view) => (Either::Left(view.build()), None),
            Err(e) => (
-                Either::Right(Render::<R>::build(())),
+                Either::Right(Render::build(())),
                Some(throw_error::throw(e.into())),
            ),
        };
@@ -42,7 +41,7 @@ where
            }
            // Ok => Err: unmount, replace with marker, and throw
            (Either::Left(old), Err(err)) => {
-                let mut new_state = Render::<R>::build(());
+                let mut new_state = Render::build(());
                old.insert_before_this(&mut new_state);
                old.unmount();
                state.state = Either::Right(new_state);
@@ -63,21 +62,19 @@ where
 }

 /// View state for a `Result<_, _>` view.
-pub struct ResultState<T, R>
+pub struct ResultState<T>
 where
-    T: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
 {
    /// The view state.
-    state: OptionState<T, R>,
+    state: OptionState<T>,
    error: Option<throw_error::ErrorId>,
    hook: Option<Arc<dyn ErrorHook>>,
 }

-impl<T, R> Drop for ResultState<T, R>
+impl<T> Drop for ResultState<T>
 where
-    T: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
 {
    fn drop(&mut self) {
        // when the state is cleared, unregister this error; this item is being dropped and its
@@ -88,48 +85,50 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> Mountable<R> for ResultState<T, R>
+impl<T> Mountable for ResultState<T>
 where
-    T: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.state.unmount();
    }

-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &R::Element, marker: Option<&R::Node>) {
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
        self.state.mount(parent, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.state.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

-impl<R, T, E> AddAnyAttr<R> for Result<T, E>
+impl<T, E> AddAnyAttr for Result<T, E>
 where
-    T: AddAnyAttr<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: AddAnyAttr,
+
    E: Into<AnyError> + Send + 'static,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> =
-        Result<<T as AddAnyAttr<R>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>, E>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        Result<<T as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr>, E>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        self.map(|inner| inner.add_any_attr(attr))
    }
 }

-impl<R, T, E> RenderHtml<R> for Result<T, E>
+impl<T, E> RenderHtml for Result<T, E>
 where
-    T: RenderHtml<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: RenderHtml,
    E: Into<AnyError> + Send + 'static,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Result<T::AsyncOutput, E>;
@@ -199,7 +198,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let hook = throw_error::get_error_hook();
@@ -209,11 +208,8 @@ where
                None,
            ),
            Err(e) => {
-                let state = RenderHtml::<R>::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(
-                    (),
-                    cursor,
-                    position,
-                );
+                let state =
+                    RenderHtml::hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>((), cursor, position);
                (Either::Right(state), Some(throw_error::throw(e.into())))
            }
        };
--- a/tachys/src/view/fragment.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/fragment.rs
@@ -1,72 +1,69 @@
 use super::any_view::{AnyView, IntoAny};
-use crate::renderer::Renderer;

 /// A typed-erased collection of different views.
-pub struct Fragment<R: Renderer> {
+pub struct Fragment {
    /// The nodes contained in the fragment.
-    pub nodes: Vec<AnyView<R>>,
+    pub nodes: Vec<AnyView>,
 }

 /// Converts some view into a type-erased collection of views.
-pub trait IntoFragment<R: Renderer> {
+pub trait IntoFragment {
    /// Converts some view into a type-erased collection of views.
-    fn into_fragment(self) -> Fragment<R>;
+    fn into_fragment(self) -> Fragment;
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> FromIterator<AnyView<R>> for Fragment<R> {
-    fn from_iter<T: IntoIterator<Item = AnyView<R>>>(iter: T) -> Self {
+impl FromIterator<AnyView> for Fragment {
+    fn from_iter<T: IntoIterator<Item = AnyView>>(iter: T) -> Self {
        Fragment::new(iter.into_iter().collect())
    }
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> From<AnyView<R>> for Fragment<R> {
-    fn from(view: AnyView<R>) -> Self {
+impl From<AnyView> for Fragment {
+    fn from(view: AnyView) -> Self {
        Fragment::new(vec![view])
    }
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> From<Fragment<R>> for AnyView<R> {
-    fn from(value: Fragment<R>) -> Self {
+impl From<Fragment> for AnyView {
+    fn from(value: Fragment) -> Self {
        value.nodes.into_any()
    }
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Fragment<R> {
+impl Fragment {
    /// Creates a new [`Fragment`].
    #[inline(always)]
-    pub fn new(nodes: Vec<AnyView<R>>) -> Self {
+    pub fn new(nodes: Vec<AnyView>) -> Self {
        Self { nodes }
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> IntoFragment<R> for Vec<T>
+impl<T> IntoFragment for Vec<T>
 where
-    T: IntoAny<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: IntoAny,
 {
-    fn into_fragment(self) -> Fragment<R> {
+    fn into_fragment(self) -> Fragment {
        Fragment::new(self.into_iter().map(IntoAny::into_any).collect())
    }
 }

-impl<const N: usize, T, R> IntoFragment<R> for [T; N]
+impl<const N: usize, T> IntoFragment for [T; N]
 where
-    T: IntoAny<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: IntoAny,
 {
-    fn into_fragment(self) -> Fragment<R> {
+    fn into_fragment(self) -> Fragment {
        Fragment::new(self.into_iter().map(IntoAny::into_any).collect())
    }
 }

 macro_rules! tuples {
 	($($ty:ident),*) => {
-		impl<$($ty),*, Rndr> IntoFragment<Rndr> for ($($ty,)*)
+		impl<$($ty),*> IntoFragment for ($($ty,)*)
 		where
-			$($ty: IntoAny<Rndr>),*,
-			Rndr: Renderer
+			$($ty: IntoAny),*,
+
 		{
-            fn into_fragment(self) -> Fragment<Rndr> {
+            fn into_fragment(self) -> Fragment {
                #[allow(non_snake_case)]
 			    let ($($ty,)*) = self;
                Fragment::new(vec![$($ty.into_any(),)*])
--- a/tachys/src/view/iterators.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/iterators.rs
@@ -3,22 +3,20 @@ use super::{
    RenderHtml,
 };
 use crate::{
-    html::attribute::Attribute, hydration::Cursor, renderer::Renderer,
+    html::attribute::Attribute, hydration::Cursor, renderer::Rndr,
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
 };
 use either_of::Either;
 use itertools::Itertools;

 /// Retained view state for an `Option`.
-pub type OptionState<T, R> =
-    Either<<T as Render<R>>::State, <() as Render<R>>::State>;
+pub type OptionState<T> = Either<<T as Render>::State, <() as Render>::State>;

-impl<T, R> Render<R> for Option<T>
+impl<T> Render for Option<T>
 where
-    T: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
 {
-    type State = OptionState<T, R>;
+    type State = OptionState<T>;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        match self {
@@ -37,29 +35,27 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> AddAnyAttr<R> for Option<T>
+impl<T> AddAnyAttr for Option<T>
 where
-    T: AddAnyAttr<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: AddAnyAttr,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> =
-        Option<<T as AddAnyAttr<R>>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        Option<<T as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr>>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        self.map(|n| n.add_any_attr(attr))
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> RenderHtml<R> for Option<T>
+impl<T> RenderHtml for Option<T>
 where
-    T: RenderHtml<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: RenderHtml,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Option<T::AsyncOutput>;

@@ -123,7 +119,7 @@ where
    #[track_caller]
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        match self {
@@ -134,15 +130,14 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> Render<R> for Vec<T>
+impl<T> Render for Vec<T>
 where
-    T: Render<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Render,
 {
-    type State = VecState<T::State, R>;
+    type State = VecState<T::State>;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        let marker = R::create_placeholder();
+        let marker = Rndr::create_placeholder();
        VecState {
            states: self.into_iter().map(T::build).collect(),
            marker,
@@ -156,7 +151,7 @@ where
        if old.is_empty() {
            let mut new = self.build().states;
            for item in new.iter_mut() {
-                R::mount_before(item, marker.as_ref());
+                Rndr::mount_before(item, marker.as_ref());
            }
            *old = new;
        } else if self.is_empty() {
@@ -175,7 +170,7 @@ where
                    }
                    itertools::EitherOrBoth::Left(new) => {
                        let mut new_state = new.build();
-                        R::mount_before(&mut new_state, marker.as_ref());
+                        Rndr::mount_before(&mut new_state, marker.as_ref());
                        adds.push(new_state);
                    }
                    itertools::EitherOrBoth::Right(old) => {
@@ -191,23 +186,21 @@ where
 }

 /// Retained view state for a `Vec<_>`.
-pub struct VecState<T, R>
+pub struct VecState<T>
 where
-    T: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Mountable,
 {
    states: Vec<T>,
    // Vecs keep a placeholder because they have the potential to add additional items,
    // after their own items but before the next neighbor. It is much easier to add an
    // item before a known placeholder than to add it after the last known item, so we
    // just leave a placeholder here unlike zero-or-one iterators (Option, Result, etc.)
-    marker: R::Placeholder,
+    marker: crate::renderer::types::Placeholder,
 }

-impl<T, R> Mountable<R> for VecState<T, R>
+impl<T> Mountable for VecState<T>
 where
-    T: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        for state in self.states.iter_mut() {
@@ -218,8 +211,8 @@ where

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        for state in self.states.iter_mut() {
            state.mount(parent, marker);
@@ -227,7 +220,7 @@ where
        self.marker.mount(parent, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        if let Some(first) = self.states.first() {
            first.insert_before_this(child)
        } else {
@@ -236,20 +229,19 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> AddAnyAttr<R> for Vec<T>
+impl<T> AddAnyAttr for Vec<T>
 where
-    T: AddAnyAttr<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: AddAnyAttr,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> =
-        Vec<<T as AddAnyAttr<R>>::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> =
+        Vec<<T as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let attr = attr.into_cloneable();
        self.into_iter()
@@ -258,10 +250,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> RenderHtml<R> for Vec<T>
+impl<T> RenderHtml for Vec<T>
 where
-    T: RenderHtml<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: RenderHtml,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Vec<T::AsyncOutput>;

@@ -332,7 +323,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let states = self
--- a/tachys/src/view/keyed.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/keyed.rs
@@ -5,84 +5,74 @@ use super::{
 use crate::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
    hydration::Cursor,
-    renderer::{CastFrom, Renderer},
+    renderer::{CastFrom, Rndr},
    ssr::StreamBuilder,
 };
 use drain_filter_polyfill::VecExt as VecDrainFilterExt;
 use indexmap::IndexSet;
 use rustc_hash::FxHasher;
-use std::{
-    hash::{BuildHasherDefault, Hash},
-    marker::PhantomData,
-};
+use std::hash::{BuildHasherDefault, Hash};

 type FxIndexSet<T> = IndexSet<T, BuildHasherDefault<FxHasher>>;

 /// Creates a keyed list of views.
-pub fn keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V, Rndr>(
+pub fn keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V>(
    items: I,
    key_fn: KF,
    view_fn: VF,
-) -> Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V, Rndr>
+) -> Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V>
 where
    I: IntoIterator<Item = T>,
    K: Eq + Hash + 'static,
    KF: Fn(&T) -> K,
-    V: Render<Rndr>,
+    V: Render,
    VF: Fn(usize, T) -> (VFS, V),
    VFS: Fn(usize),
-    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    Keyed {
        items,
        key_fn,
        view_fn,
-        rndr: PhantomData,
    }
 }

 /// A keyed list of views.
-pub struct Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V, Rndr>
+pub struct Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V>
 where
    I: IntoIterator<Item = T>,
    K: Eq + Hash + 'static,
    KF: Fn(&T) -> K,
    VF: Fn(usize, T) -> (VFS, V),
    VFS: Fn(usize),
-    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    items: I,
    key_fn: KF,
    view_fn: VF,
-    rndr: PhantomData<Rndr>,
 }

 /// Retained view state for a keyed list.
-pub struct KeyedState<K, VFS, V, Rndr>
+pub struct KeyedState<K, VFS, V>
 where
    K: Eq + Hash + 'static,
    VFS: Fn(usize),
-    V: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    V: Render,
 {
-    parent: Option<Rndr::Element>,
-    marker: Rndr::Placeholder,
+    parent: Option<crate::renderer::types::Element>,
+    marker: crate::renderer::types::Placeholder,
    hashed_items: IndexSet<K, BuildHasherDefault<FxHasher>>,
    rendered_items: Vec<Option<(VFS, V::State)>>,
 }

-impl<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V, Rndr> Render<Rndr>
-    for Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V, Rndr>
+impl<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V> Render for Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V>
 where
    I: IntoIterator<Item = T>,
    K: Eq + Hash + 'static,
    KF: Fn(&T) -> K,
-    V: Render<Rndr>,
+    V: Render,
    VF: Fn(usize, T) -> (VFS, V),
    VFS: Fn(usize),
-    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
-    type State = KeyedState<K, VFS, V, Rndr>;
+    type State = KeyedState<K, VFS, V>;
    // TODO fallible state and try_build()/try_rebuild() here

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
@@ -139,20 +129,18 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr>
-    for Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V, Rndr>
+impl<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V> AddAnyAttr for Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V>
 where
    I: IntoIterator<Item = T> + Send,
    K: Eq + Hash + 'static,
    KF: Fn(&T) -> K + Send,
-    V: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+    V: RenderHtml,
    V: 'static,
    VF: Fn(usize, T) -> (VFS, V) + Send + 'static,
    VFS: Fn(usize) + 'static,
    T: 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = Keyed<
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = Keyed<
        T,
        I,
        K,
@@ -163,28 +151,24 @@ where
                    T,
                ) -> (
                    VFS,
-                    <V as AddAnyAttr<Rndr>>::Output<
-                        SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned,
-                    >,
+                    <V as AddAnyAttr>::Output<SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned>,
                ) + Send,
        >,
        VFS,
        V::Output<SomeNewAttr::CloneableOwned>,
-        Rndr,
    >;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        let Keyed {
            items,
            key_fn,
            view_fn,
-            rndr,
        } = self;
        let attr = attr.into_cloneable_owned();
        Keyed {
@@ -194,22 +178,19 @@ where
                let (index, view) = view_fn(index, item);
                (index, view.add_any_attr(attr.clone()))
            }),
-            rndr,
        }
    }
 }

-impl<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr>
-    for Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V, Rndr>
+impl<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V> RenderHtml for Keyed<T, I, K, KF, VF, VFS, V>
 where
    I: IntoIterator<Item = T> + Send,
    K: Eq + Hash + 'static,
    KF: Fn(&T) -> K + Send,
-    V: RenderHtml<Rndr> + 'static,
+    V: RenderHtml + 'static,
    VF: Fn(usize, T) -> (VFS, V) + Send + 'static,
    VFS: Fn(usize) + 'static,
    T: 'static,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Vec<V::AsyncOutput>; // TODO

@@ -268,7 +249,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        // get parent and position
@@ -279,7 +260,7 @@ where
            Rndr::get_parent(&current)
                .expect("first child of keyed list has no parent")
        };
-        let parent = Rndr::Element::cast_from(parent)
+        let parent = crate::renderer::types::Element::cast_from(parent)
            .expect("parent of keyed list should be an element");

        // build list
@@ -304,14 +285,17 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<K, VFS, V, Rndr> Mountable<Rndr> for KeyedState<K, VFS, V, Rndr>
+impl<K, VFS, V> Mountable for KeyedState<K, VFS, V>
 where
    K: Eq + Hash + 'static,
    VFS: Fn(usize),
-    V: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    V: Render,
 {
-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &Rndr::Element, marker: Option<&Rndr::Node>) {
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
        self.parent = Some(parent.clone());
        for (_, item) in self.rendered_items.iter_mut().flatten() {
            item.mount(parent, marker);
@@ -326,7 +310,7 @@ where
        self.marker.unmount();
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<Rndr>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.rendered_items
            .first()
            .map(|item| {
@@ -519,17 +503,16 @@ impl Default for DiffOpAddMode {
    }
 }

-fn apply_diff<T, VFS, V, Rndr>(
-    parent: &Rndr::Element,
-    marker: &Rndr::Placeholder,
+fn apply_diff<T, VFS, V>(
+    parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    marker: &crate::renderer::types::Placeholder,
    diff: Diff,
    children: &mut Vec<Option<(VFS, V::State)>>,
    view_fn: impl Fn(usize, T) -> (VFS, V),
    mut items: Vec<Option<T>>,
 ) where
    VFS: Fn(usize),
-    V: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    V: Render,
 {
    // The order of cmds needs to be:
    // 1. Clear
--- a/tachys/src/view/mod.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/mod.rs
@@ -1,13 +1,7 @@
 use self::add_attr::AddAnyAttr;
-use crate::{hydration::Cursor, renderer::Renderer, ssr::StreamBuilder};
+use crate::{hydration::Cursor, ssr::StreamBuilder};
 use parking_lot::RwLock;
-use std::{
-    cell::RefCell,
-    future::Future,
-    ops::{Deref, DerefMut},
-    rc::Rc,
-    sync::Arc,
-};
+use std::{cell::RefCell, future::Future, rc::Rc, sync::Arc};

 /// Add attributes to typed views.
 pub mod add_attr;
@@ -38,12 +32,12 @@ pub mod tuples;
 ///
 /// It is generic over the renderer itself, as long as that implements the [`Renderer`]
 /// trait.
-pub trait Render<R: Renderer>: Sized {
+pub trait Render: Sized {
    /// The “view state” for this type, which can be retained between updates.
    ///
    /// For example, for a text node, `State` might be the actual DOM text node
    /// and the previous string, to allow for diffing between updates.
-    type State: Mountable<R>;
+    type State: Mountable;

    /// Creates the view for the first time, without hydrating from existing HTML.
    fn build(self) -> Self::State;
@@ -98,12 +92,12 @@ impl MarkBranch for StreamBuilder {
 /// can be transformed into some HTML that is used to create a `<template>` node, which
 /// can be cloned many times and “hydrated,” which is more efficient than creating the
 /// whole view piece by piece.
-pub trait RenderHtml<R: Renderer>
+pub trait RenderHtml
 where
-    Self: Render<R> + AddAnyAttr<R> + Send,
+    Self: Render + AddAnyAttr + Send,
 {
    /// The type of the view after waiting for all asynchronous data to load.
-    type AsyncOutput: RenderHtml<R>;
+    type AsyncOutput: RenderHtml;

    /// The minimum length of HTML created when this view is rendered.
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize;
@@ -253,14 +247,14 @@ where
    /// (e.g., into a `<template>` element).
    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State;

    /// Hydrates using [`RenderHtml::hydrate`], beginning at the given element.
    fn hydrate_from<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
    ) -> Self::State
    where
        Self: Sized,
@@ -271,7 +265,7 @@ where
    /// Hydrates using [`RenderHtml::hydrate`], beginning at the given element and position.
    fn hydrate_from_position<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        el: &R::Element,
+        el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
        position: Position,
    ) -> Self::State
    where
@@ -284,24 +278,28 @@ where
 }

 /// Allows a type to be mounted to the DOM.
-pub trait Mountable<R: Renderer> {
+pub trait Mountable {
    /// Detaches the view from the DOM.
    fn unmount(&mut self);

    /// Mounts a node to the interface.
-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &R::Element, marker: Option<&R::Node>);
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    );

    /// Inserts another `Mountable` type before this one. Returns `false` if
    /// this does not actually exist in the UI (for example, `()`).
-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool;
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool;

    /// Inserts another `Mountable` type before this one, or before the marker
    /// if this one doesn't exist in the UI (for example, `()`).
    fn insert_before_this_or_marker(
        &self,
-        parent: &R::Element,
-        child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>,
-        marker: Option<&R::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        child: &mut dyn Mountable,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
        if !self.insert_before_this(child) {
            child.mount(parent, marker);
@@ -310,20 +308,16 @@ pub trait Mountable<R: Renderer> {
 }

 /// Indicates where a node should be mounted to its parent.
-pub enum MountKind<R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+pub enum MountKind {
    /// Node should be mounted before this marker node.
-    Before(R::Node),
+    Before(crate::renderer::types::Node),
    /// Node should be appended to the parent’s children.
    Append,
 }

-impl<T, R> Mountable<R> for Option<T>
+impl<T> Mountable for Option<T>
 where
-    T: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        if let Some(ref mut mounted) = self {
@@ -331,33 +325,40 @@ where
        }
    }

-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &R::Element, marker: Option<&R::Node>) {
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
        if let Some(ref mut inner) = self {
            inner.mount(parent, marker);
        }
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.as_ref()
            .map(|inner| inner.insert_before_this(child))
            .unwrap_or(false)
    }
 }

-impl<T, R> Mountable<R> for Rc<RefCell<T>>
+impl<T> Mountable for Rc<RefCell<T>>
 where
-    T: Mountable<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    T: Mountable,
 {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.borrow_mut().unmount()
    }

-    fn mount(&mut self, parent: &R::Element, marker: Option<&R::Node>) {
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
        self.borrow_mut().mount(parent, marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.borrow().insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }
@@ -431,229 +432,3 @@ pub enum Position {
    /// This is the last child of its parent.
    LastChild,
 }
-
-/// A view stored on the heap.
-///
-/// This is a newtype around `Box<_>` that allows us to implement rendering traits on it.
-#[derive(Debug, Clone, PartialEq, Eq)]
-pub struct BoxedView<T>(Box<T>);
-
-impl<T> BoxedView<T> {
-    /// Stores view on the heap.
-    pub fn new(value: T) -> Self {
-        Self(Box::new(value))
-    }
-
-    /// Deferences the view to its inner value.
-    pub fn into_inner(self) -> T {
-        *self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> AsRef<T> for BoxedView<T> {
-    fn as_ref(&self) -> &T {
-        &self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> AsMut<T> for BoxedView<T> {
-    fn as_mut(&mut self) -> &mut T {
-        &mut self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> Deref for BoxedView<T> {
-    type Target = T;
-
-    fn deref(&self) -> &Self::Target {
-        &self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> DerefMut for BoxedView<T> {
-    fn deref_mut(&mut self) -> &mut Self::Target {
-        &mut self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T, Rndr> Render<Rndr> for BoxedView<T>
-where
-    T: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-{
-    type State = T::State;
-
-    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        self.into_inner().build()
-    }
-
-    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
-        self.into_inner().rebuild(state);
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for BoxedView<T>
-where
-    T: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-{
-    type AsyncOutput = BoxedView<T::AsyncOutput>;
-
-    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = T::MIN_LENGTH;
-
-    fn dry_resolve(&mut self) {
-        self.as_mut().dry_resolve();
-    }
-
-    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
-        let inner = self.into_inner().resolve().await;
-        BoxedView::new(inner)
-    }
-
-    fn to_html_with_buf(
-        self,
-        buf: &mut String,
-        position: &mut Position,
-        escape: bool,
-        mark_branches: bool,
-    ) {
-        self.into_inner()
-            .to_html_with_buf(buf, position, escape, mark_branches)
-    }
-
-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
-        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
-        position: &PositionState,
-    ) -> Self::State {
-        self.into_inner().hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(cursor, position)
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> ToTemplate for BoxedView<T>
-where
-    T: ToTemplate,
-{
-    fn to_template(
-        buf: &mut String,
-        class: &mut String,
-        style: &mut String,
-        inner_html: &mut String,
-        position: &mut Position,
-    ) {
-        T::to_template(buf, class, style, inner_html, position);
-    }
-}
-
-/// A newtype around a view that allows us to get out of certain compile errors.
-///
-/// It is unlikely that you need this in your own work.
-#[derive(Debug, Copy, Clone, PartialEq, Eq)]
-pub struct WrappedView<T>(T);
-
-impl<T> WrappedView<T> {
-    /// Wraps the view.
-    pub fn new(value: T) -> Self {
-        Self(value)
-    }
-
-    /// Unwraps the view to its inner value.
-    pub fn into_inner(self) -> T {
-        self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> Deref for WrappedView<T> {
-    type Target = T;
-
-    fn deref(&self) -> &Self::Target {
-        &self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> DerefMut for WrappedView<T> {
-    fn deref_mut(&mut self) -> &mut Self::Target {
-        &mut self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> AsRef<T> for WrappedView<T> {
-    fn as_ref(&self) -> &T {
-        &self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> AsMut<T> for WrappedView<T> {
-    fn as_mut(&mut self) -> &mut T {
-        &mut self.0
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T, Rndr> Render<Rndr> for WrappedView<T>
-where
-    T: Render<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-{
-    type State = T::State;
-
-    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        self.into_inner().build()
-    }
-
-    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
-        self.into_inner().rebuild(state);
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for WrappedView<T>
-where
-    T: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-{
-    type AsyncOutput = BoxedView<T::AsyncOutput>;
-
-    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = T::MIN_LENGTH;
-
-    fn dry_resolve(&mut self) {
-        self.as_mut().dry_resolve();
-    }
-
-    async fn resolve(self) -> Self::AsyncOutput {
-        let inner = self.into_inner().resolve().await;
-        BoxedView::new(inner)
-    }
-
-    fn to_html_with_buf(
-        self,
-        buf: &mut String,
-        position: &mut Position,
-        escape: bool,
-        mark_branches: bool,
-    ) {
-        self.into_inner()
-            .to_html_with_buf(buf, position, escape, mark_branches)
-    }
-
-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
-        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>,
-        position: &PositionState,
-    ) -> Self::State {
-        self.into_inner().hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(cursor, position)
-    }
-}
-
-impl<T> ToTemplate for WrappedView<T>
-where
-    T: ToTemplate,
-{
-    fn to_template(
-        buf: &mut String,
-        class: &mut String,
-        style: &mut String,
-        inner_html: &mut String,
-        position: &mut Position,
-    ) {
-        T::to_template(buf, class, style, inner_html, position);
-    }
-}
--- a/tachys/src/view/primitives.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/primitives.rs
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ use super::{Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render, RenderHtml};
 use crate::{
    hydration::Cursor,
    no_attrs,
-    renderer::{CastFrom, Renderer},
+    renderer::{CastFrom, Rndr},
    view::ToTemplate,
 };
 use std::{
@@ -20,41 +20,41 @@ macro_rules! render_primitive {
  ($($child_type:ty),* $(,)?) => {
    $(
 		paste::paste! {
-			pub struct [<$child_type:camel State>]<R>(R::Text, $child_type) where R: Renderer;
+			pub struct [<$child_type:camel State>](crate::renderer::types::Text, $child_type);

-			impl<R: Renderer> Mountable<R> for [<$child_type:camel State>]<R> {
+			impl Mountable for [<$child_type:camel State>] {
 					fn unmount(&mut self) {
 						self.0.unmount()
 					}

 					fn mount(
 						&mut self,
-						parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-						marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+						parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+						marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
 					) {
-						R::insert_node(parent, self.0.as_ref(), marker);
+						Rndr::insert_node(parent, self.0.as_ref(), marker);
 					}

 					fn insert_before_this(&self,
-						child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>,
+						child: &mut dyn Mountable,
 					) -> bool {
                        self.0.insert_before_this(child)
 					}
 			}

-			impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for $child_type {
-				type State = [<$child_type:camel State>]<R>;
+			impl Render for $child_type {
+				type State = [<$child_type:camel State>];


 				fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-					let node = R::create_text_node(&self.to_string());
+					let node = Rndr::create_text_node(&self.to_string());
 					[<$child_type:camel State>](node, self)
 				}

 				fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
 					let [<$child_type:camel State>](node, this) = state;
 					if &self != this {
-						R::set_text(node, &self.to_string());
+						Rndr::set_text(node, &self.to_string());
 						*this = self;
 					}
 				}
@@ -62,9 +62,7 @@ macro_rules! render_primitive {

            no_attrs!($child_type);

-			impl<R> RenderHtml<R> for $child_type
-			where
-				R: Renderer,
+			impl RenderHtml for $child_type
 			{
 				type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -87,7 +85,7 @@ macro_rules! render_primitive {

 				fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
 					self,
-					cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+					cursor: &Cursor,
 					position: &PositionState,
 				) -> Self::State {
 					if position.get() == Position::FirstChild {
@@ -102,11 +100,11 @@ macro_rules! render_primitive {
 					}

 					let node = cursor.current();
-					let node = R::Text::cast_from(node)
+					let node = crate::renderer::types::Text::cast_from(node)
 						.expect("couldn't cast text node from node");

 					if !FROM_SERVER {
-						R::set_text(&node, &self.to_string());
+						Rndr::set_text(&node, &self.to_string());
 					}
 					position.set(Position::NextChildAfterText);

--- a/tachys/src/view/static_types.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/static_types.rs
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 use super::{
    add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
-    RenderHtml, ToTemplate, WrappedView,
+    RenderHtml, ToTemplate,
 };
 use crate::{
    html::attribute::{Attribute, AttributeKey, AttributeValue, NextAttribute},
    hydration::Cursor,
-    renderer::Renderer,
+    renderer::Rndr,
 };
 use std::marker::PhantomData;

@@ -54,10 +54,9 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<K, const V: &'static str, R> Attribute<R> for StaticAttr<K, V>
+impl<K, const V: &'static str> Attribute for StaticAttr<K, V>
 where
    K: AttributeKey,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = K::KEY.len() + 3 + V.len(); // K::KEY + ="..." + V

@@ -78,14 +77,17 @@ where
        _style: &mut String,
        _inner_html: &mut String,
    ) {
-        AttributeValue::<R>::to_html(V, K::KEY, buf)
+        AttributeValue::to_html(V, K::KEY, buf)
    }

-    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, _el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
+    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
+        self,
+        _el: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+    ) -> Self::State {
    }

-    fn build(self, el: &R::Element) -> Self::State {
-        R::set_attribute(el, K::KEY, V);
+    fn build(self, el: &crate::renderer::types::Element) -> Self::State {
+        Rndr::set_attribute(el, K::KEY, V);
    }

    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
@@ -105,14 +107,13 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<K, const V: &'static str, R> NextAttribute<R> for StaticAttr<K, V>
+impl<K, const V: &'static str> NextAttribute for StaticAttr<K, V>
 where
    K: AttributeKey,
-    R: Renderer,
 {
-    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute<R>> = (Self, NewAttr);
+    type Output<NewAttr: Attribute> = (Self, NewAttr);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        new_attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr> {
@@ -138,27 +139,22 @@ impl<const V: &'static str> AsRef<str> for Static<V> {
    }
 }

-impl<const V: &'static str, R: Renderer> Render<R> for Static<V>
+impl<const V: &'static str> Render for Static<V>
 where
-    R::Text: Mountable<R>,
+    crate::renderer::types::Text: Mountable,
 {
-    type State = Option<R::Text>;
+    type State = Option<crate::renderer::types::Text>;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        // a view state has to be returned so it can be mounted
-        Some(R::create_text_node(V))
+        Some(Rndr::create_text_node(V))
    }

    // This type is specified as static, so no rebuilding is done.
    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
 }

-impl<const V: &'static str, R> RenderHtml<R> for Static<V>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-
-    R::Text: Mountable<R>,
-{
+impl<const V: &'static str> RenderHtml for Static<V> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = V.len();
@@ -194,7 +190,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        if position.get() == Position::FirstChild {
@@ -212,20 +208,17 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<R, const V: &'static str> AddAnyAttr<R> for Static<V>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> = WrappedView<Static<V>>;
+impl<const V: &'static str> AddAnyAttr for Static<V> {
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = Static<V>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        _attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
-        WrappedView::new(self)
+        todo!()
    }
 }

--- a/tachys/src/view/strings.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/strings.rs
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ use super::{
 use crate::{
    hydration::Cursor,
    no_attrs,
-    renderer::{CastFrom, Renderer},
+    renderer::{CastFrom, Rndr},
 };
 use std::{borrow::Cow, rc::Rc, sync::Arc};

@@ -14,32 +14,29 @@ no_attrs!(Arc<str>);
 no_attrs!(Cow<'a, str>);

 /// Retained view state for `&str`.
-pub struct StrState<'a, R: Renderer> {
-    pub(crate) node: R::Text,
+pub struct StrState<'a> {
+    pub(crate) node: crate::renderer::types::Text,
    str: &'a str,
 }

-impl<'a, R: Renderer> Render<R> for &'a str {
-    type State = StrState<'a, R>;
+impl<'a> Render for &'a str {
+    type State = StrState<'a>;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        let node = R::create_text_node(self);
+        let node = Rndr::create_text_node(self);
        StrState { node, str: self }
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let StrState { node, str } = state;
        if &self != str {
-            R::set_text(node, self);
+            Rndr::set_text(node, self);
            *str = self;
        }
    }
 }

-impl<'a, R> RenderHtml<R> for &'a str
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl<'a> RenderHtml for &'a str {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
@@ -78,7 +75,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        if position.get() == Position::FirstChild {
@@ -93,11 +90,11 @@ where
        }

        let node = cursor.current();
-        let node = R::Text::cast_from(node)
+        let node = crate::renderer::types::Text::cast_from(node)
            .expect("couldn't cast text node from node");

        if !FROM_SERVER {
-            R::set_text(&node, self);
+            Rndr::set_text(&node, self);
        }
        position.set(Position::NextChildAfterText);

@@ -123,54 +120,48 @@ impl<'a> ToTemplate for &'a str {
    }
 }

-impl<'a, R> Mountable<R> for StrState<'a, R>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl<'a> Mountable for StrState<'a> {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.node.unmount()
    }

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
-        R::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
+        Rndr::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.node.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

 /// Retained view state for `String`.
-pub struct StringState<R: Renderer> {
-    node: R::Text,
+pub struct StringState {
+    node: crate::renderer::types::Text,
    str: String,
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for String {
-    type State = StringState<R>;
+impl Render for String {
+    type State = StringState;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        let node = R::create_text_node(&self);
+        let node = Rndr::create_text_node(&self);
        StringState { node, str: self }
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let StringState { node, str } = state;
        if &self != str {
-            R::set_text(node, &self);
+            Rndr::set_text(node, &self);
            *str = self;
        }
    }
 }

-impl<R> RenderHtml<R> for String
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl RenderHtml for String {
    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -191,7 +182,7 @@ where
        escape: bool,
        mark_branches: bool,
    ) {
-        <&str as RenderHtml<R>>::to_html_with_buf(
+        <&str as RenderHtml>::to_html_with_buf(
            self.as_str(),
            buf,
            position,
@@ -202,7 +193,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let StrState { node, .. } =
@@ -227,42 +218,42 @@ impl ToTemplate for String {
    }
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Mountable<R> for StringState<R> {
+impl Mountable for StringState {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.node.unmount()
    }

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
-        R::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
+        Rndr::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.node.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

 /// Retained view state for `Rc<str>`.
-pub struct RcStrState<R: Renderer> {
-    node: R::Text,
+pub struct RcStrState {
+    node: crate::renderer::types::Text,
    str: Rc<str>,
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for Rc<str> {
-    type State = RcStrState<R>;
+impl Render for Rc<str> {
+    type State = RcStrState;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        let node = R::create_text_node(&self);
+        let node = Rndr::create_text_node(&self);
        RcStrState { node, str: self }
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let RcStrState { node, str } = state;
        if !Rc::ptr_eq(&self, str) {
-            R::set_text(node, &self);
+            Rndr::set_text(node, &self);
            *str = self;
        }
    }
@@ -271,9 +262,9 @@ impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for Rc<str> {
 // can't Send an Rc<str> between threads, so can't implement async HTML rendering that might need
 // to send it
 /*
-impl<R> RenderHtml<R> for Rc<str>
+impl RenderHtml for Rc<str>
 where
-    R: Renderer,
+
 {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

@@ -288,12 +279,12 @@ where
    }

    fn to_html_with_buf(self, buf: &mut String, position: &mut Position, escape: bool, mark_branches: bool) {
-        <&str as RenderHtml<R>>::to_html_with_buf(&self, buf, position)
+        <&str as RenderHtml>::to_html_with_buf(&self, buf, position)
    }

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let this: &str = self.as_ref();
@@ -319,51 +310,48 @@ impl ToTemplate for Rc<str> {
    }
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Mountable<R> for RcStrState<R> {
+impl Mountable for RcStrState {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.node.unmount()
    }

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
-        R::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
+        Rndr::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.node.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

 /// Retained view state for `Arc<str>`.
-pub struct ArcStrState<R: Renderer> {
-    node: R::Text,
+pub struct ArcStrState {
+    node: crate::renderer::types::Text,
    str: Arc<str>,
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for Arc<str> {
-    type State = ArcStrState<R>;
+impl Render for Arc<str> {
+    type State = ArcStrState;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        let node = R::create_text_node(&self);
+        let node = Rndr::create_text_node(&self);
        ArcStrState { node, str: self }
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let ArcStrState { node, str } = state;
        if !Arc::ptr_eq(&self, str) {
-            R::set_text(node, &self);
+            Rndr::set_text(node, &self);
            *str = self;
        }
    }
 }

-impl<R> RenderHtml<R> for Arc<str>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl RenderHtml for Arc<str> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
@@ -385,7 +373,7 @@ where
        escape: bool,
        mark_branches: bool,
    ) {
-        <&str as RenderHtml<R>>::to_html_with_buf(
+        <&str as RenderHtml>::to_html_with_buf(
            &self,
            buf,
            position,
@@ -396,7 +384,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let this: &str = self.as_ref();
@@ -422,51 +410,48 @@ impl ToTemplate for Arc<str> {
    }
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Mountable<R> for ArcStrState<R> {
+impl Mountable for ArcStrState {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.node.unmount()
    }

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
-        R::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
+        Rndr::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.node.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }

 /// Retained view state for `Cow<'_, str>`.
-pub struct CowStrState<'a, R: Renderer> {
-    node: R::Text,
+pub struct CowStrState<'a> {
+    node: crate::renderer::types::Text,
    str: Cow<'a, str>,
 }

-impl<'a, R: Renderer> Render<R> for Cow<'a, str> {
-    type State = CowStrState<'a, R>;
+impl<'a> Render for Cow<'a, str> {
+    type State = CowStrState<'a>;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        let node = R::create_text_node(&self);
+        let node = Rndr::create_text_node(&self);
        CowStrState { node, str: self }
    }

    fn rebuild(self, state: &mut Self::State) {
        let CowStrState { node, str } = state;
        if self != *str {
-            R::set_text(node, &self);
+            Rndr::set_text(node, &self);
            *str = self;
        }
    }
 }

-impl<'a, R> RenderHtml<R> for Cow<'a, str>
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl<'a> RenderHtml for Cow<'a, str> {
    type AsyncOutput = Self;

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 0;
@@ -488,7 +473,7 @@ where
        escape: bool,
        mark_branches: bool,
    ) {
-        <&str as RenderHtml<R>>::to_html_with_buf(
+        <&str as RenderHtml>::to_html_with_buf(
            &self,
            buf,
            position,
@@ -499,7 +484,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        let this: &str = self.as_ref();
@@ -525,20 +510,20 @@ impl<'a> ToTemplate for Cow<'a, str> {
    }
 }

-impl<'a, R: Renderer> Mountable<R> for CowStrState<'a, R> {
+impl<'a> Mountable for CowStrState<'a> {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {
        self.node.unmount()
    }

    fn mount(
        &mut self,
-        parent: &<R as Renderer>::Element,
-        marker: Option<&<R as Renderer>::Node>,
+        parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
    ) {
-        R::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
+        Rndr::insert_node(parent, self.node.as_ref(), marker);
    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        self.node.insert_before_this(child)
    }
 }
--- a/tachys/src/view/template.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/template.rs
@@ -2,44 +2,35 @@ use super::{
    add_attr::AddAnyAttr, Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render,
    RenderHtml, ToTemplate,
 };
-use crate::{
-    html::attribute::Attribute, hydration::Cursor, renderer::DomRenderer,
-};
-use std::marker::PhantomData;
+use crate::{html::attribute::Attribute, hydration::Cursor, renderer::Rndr};

 /// A view wrapper that uses a `<template>` node to optimize DOM node creation.
 ///
 /// Rather than creating all of the DOM nodes each time it is built, this template will create a
 /// single `<template>` node once, then use `.cloneNode(true)` to clone that entire tree, and
 /// hydrate it to add event listeners and interactivity for this instance.
-pub struct ViewTemplate<V, R> {
+pub struct ViewTemplate<V> {
    view: V,
-    rndr: PhantomData<R>,
 }

-impl<V, R> ViewTemplate<V, R>
+impl<V> ViewTemplate<V>
 where
-    V: Render<R> + ToTemplate + 'static,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: Render + ToTemplate + 'static,
 {
    /// Creates a new view template.
    pub fn new(view: V) -> Self {
-        Self {
-            view,
-            rndr: PhantomData,
-        }
+        Self { view }
    }

-    fn to_template() -> R::TemplateElement {
-        R::get_template::<V>()
+    fn to_template() -> crate::renderer::types::TemplateElement {
+        Rndr::get_template::<V>()
    }
 }

-impl<V, R> Render<R> for ViewTemplate<V, R>
+impl<V> Render for ViewTemplate<V>
 where
-    V: Render<R> + RenderHtml<R> + ToTemplate + 'static,
-    V::State: Mountable<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: Render + RenderHtml + ToTemplate + 'static,
+    V::State: Mountable,
 {
    type State = V::State;

@@ -47,7 +38,7 @@ where

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
        let tpl = Self::to_template();
-        let contents = R::clone_template(&tpl);
+        let contents = Rndr::clone_template(&tpl);
        self.view
            .hydrate::<false>(&Cursor::new(contents), &Default::default())
    }
@@ -57,30 +48,28 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<V, R> AddAnyAttr<R> for ViewTemplate<V, R>
+impl<V> AddAnyAttr for ViewTemplate<V>
 where
-    V: RenderHtml<R> + ToTemplate + 'static,
-    V::State: Mountable<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: RenderHtml + ToTemplate + 'static,
+    V::State: Mountable,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<R>> = ViewTemplate<V, R>;
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = ViewTemplate<V>;

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<R>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        _attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<R>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        panic!("AddAnyAttr not supported on ViewTemplate");
    }
 }

-impl<V, R> RenderHtml<R> for ViewTemplate<V, R>
+impl<V> RenderHtml for ViewTemplate<V>
 where
-    V: RenderHtml<R> + ToTemplate + 'static,
-    V::State: Mountable<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: RenderHtml + ToTemplate + 'static,
+    V::State: Mountable,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = V::AsyncOutput;

@@ -99,7 +88,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        self.view.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(cursor, position)
@@ -114,11 +103,10 @@ where
    }
 }

-impl<V, R> ToTemplate for ViewTemplate<V, R>
+impl<V> ToTemplate for ViewTemplate<V>
 where
-    V: RenderHtml<R> + ToTemplate + 'static,
-    V::State: Mountable<R>,
-    R: DomRenderer,
+    V: RenderHtml + ToTemplate + 'static,
+    V::State: Mountable,
 {
    const TEMPLATE: &'static str = V::TEMPLATE;

--- a/tachys/src/view/tuples.rs
+++ b/tachys/src/view/tuples.rs
@@ -1,30 +1,27 @@
 use super::{
-    Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render, RenderHtml, Renderer,
-    ToTemplate,
+    Mountable, Position, PositionState, Render, RenderHtml, ToTemplate,
 };
 use crate::{
    html::attribute::Attribute,
    hydration::Cursor,
+    renderer::Rndr,
    view::{add_attr::AddAnyAttr, StreamBuilder},
 };
 use const_str_slice_concat::{
    const_concat, const_concat_with_separator, str_from_buffer,
 };

-impl<R: Renderer> Render<R> for () {
-    type State = R::Placeholder;
+impl Render for () {
+    type State = crate::renderer::types::Placeholder;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
-        R::create_placeholder()
+        Rndr::create_placeholder()
    }

    fn rebuild(self, _state: &mut Self::State) {}
 }

-impl<R> RenderHtml<R> for ()
-where
-    R: Renderer,
-{
+impl RenderHtml for () {
    type AsyncOutput = ();

    const MIN_LENGTH: usize = 3;
@@ -43,7 +40,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        cursor.next_placeholder(position)
@@ -54,29 +51,30 @@ where
    fn dry_resolve(&mut self) {}
 }

-impl<Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for ()
-where
-    Rndr: Renderer,
-{
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = ();
+impl AddAnyAttr for () {
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = ();

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        _attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
-        ().add_any_attr(_attr)
    }
 }

-impl<R: Renderer> Mountable<R> for () {
+impl Mountable for () {
    fn unmount(&mut self) {}

-    fn mount(&mut self, _parent: &R::Element, _marker: Option<&R::Node>) {}
+    fn mount(
+        &mut self,
+        _parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+        _marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
+    ) {
+    }

-    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable<R>) -> bool {
+    fn insert_before_this(&self, _child: &mut dyn Mountable) -> bool {
        false
    }
 }
@@ -95,7 +93,7 @@ impl ToTemplate for () {
    }
 }

-impl<A: Render<R>, R: Renderer> Render<R> for (A,) {
+impl<A: Render> Render for (A,) {
    type State = A::State;

    fn build(self) -> Self::State {
@@ -107,10 +105,9 @@ impl<A: Render<R>, R: Renderer> Render<R> for (A,) {
    }
 }

-impl<A, R> RenderHtml<R> for (A,)
+impl<A> RenderHtml for (A,)
 where
-    A: RenderHtml<R>,
-    R: Renderer,
+    A: RenderHtml,
 {
    type AsyncOutput = (A::AsyncOutput,);

@@ -150,7 +147,7 @@ where

    fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(
        self,
-        cursor: &Cursor<R>,
+        cursor: &Cursor,
        position: &PositionState,
    ) -> Self::State {
        self.0.hydrate::<FROM_SERVER>(cursor, position)
@@ -181,19 +178,18 @@ impl<A: ToTemplate> ToTemplate for (A,) {
    }
 }

-impl<A, Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for (A,)
+impl<A> AddAnyAttr for (A,)
 where
-    A: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-    Rndr: Renderer,
+    A: AddAnyAttr,
 {
-    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = (A::Output<SomeNewAttr>,);
+    type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = (A::Output<SomeNewAttr>,);

-    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+    fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
        self,
        attr: NewAttr,
    ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
    where
-        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+        Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
    {
        (self.0.add_any_attr(attr),)
    }
@@ -201,11 +197,11 @@ where

 macro_rules! impl_view_for_tuples {
 	($first:ident, $($ty:ident),* $(,)?) => {
-		impl<$first, $($ty),*, Rndr> Render<Rndr> for ($first, $($ty,)*)
+		impl<$first, $($ty),*> Render for ($first, $($ty,)*)
 		where
-			$first: Render<Rndr>,
-			$($ty: Render<Rndr>),*,
-			Rndr: Renderer
+			$first: Render,
+			$($ty: Render),*,
+
 		{
 			type State = ($first::State, $($ty::State,)*);

@@ -229,11 +225,11 @@ macro_rules! impl_view_for_tuples {
 			}
 		}

-		impl<$first, $($ty),*, Rndr> RenderHtml<Rndr> for ($first, $($ty,)*)
+		impl<$first, $($ty),*> RenderHtml for ($first, $($ty,)*)
 		where
-			$first: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
-			$($ty: RenderHtml<Rndr>),*,
-			Rndr: Renderer,
+			$first: RenderHtml,
+			$($ty: RenderHtml),*,
+
 		{
            type AsyncOutput = ($first::AsyncOutput, $($ty::AsyncOutput,)*);

@@ -264,7 +260,7 @@ macro_rules! impl_view_for_tuples {
                $($ty.to_html_async_with_buf::<OUT_OF_ORDER>(buf, position, escape, mark_branches));*
 			}

-			fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, cursor: &Cursor<Rndr>, position: &PositionState) -> Self::State {
+			fn hydrate<const FROM_SERVER: bool>(self, cursor: &Cursor, position: &PositionState) -> Self::State {
                #[allow(non_snake_case)]
 					let ($first, $($ty,)* ) = self;
 					(
@@ -311,10 +307,10 @@ macro_rules! impl_view_for_tuples {
 			}
 		}

-		impl<$first, $($ty),*, Rndr> Mountable<Rndr> for ($first, $($ty,)*) where
-			$first: Mountable<Rndr>,
-			$($ty: Mountable<Rndr>),*,
-			Rndr: Renderer
+		impl<$first, $($ty),*> Mountable for ($first, $($ty,)*) where
+			$first: Mountable,
+			$($ty: Mountable),*,
+
 		{
 			fn unmount(&mut self) {
                #[allow(non_snake_case)] // better macro performance
@@ -325,8 +321,8 @@ macro_rules! impl_view_for_tuples {

 			fn mount(
 				&mut self,
-				parent: &Rndr::Element,
-				marker: Option<&Rndr::Node>,
+				parent: &crate::renderer::types::Element,
+				marker: Option<&crate::renderer::types::Node>,
 			) {
                #[allow(non_snake_case)] // better macro performance
                let ($first, $($ty,)*) = self;
@@ -335,7 +331,7 @@ macro_rules! impl_view_for_tuples {
 			}

 			fn insert_before_this(&self,
-				child: &mut dyn Mountable<Rndr>,
+				child: &mut dyn Mountable,
 			) -> bool {
                #[allow(non_snake_case)] // better macro performance
                let ($first, $($ty,)*) = self;
@@ -344,20 +340,20 @@ macro_rules! impl_view_for_tuples {
 			}
 		}

-        impl<$first, $($ty,)* Rndr> AddAnyAttr<Rndr> for ($first, $($ty,)*)
+        impl<$first, $($ty,)*> AddAnyAttr for ($first, $($ty,)*)
        where
-			$first: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>,
-			$($ty: AddAnyAttr<Rndr>),*,
-            Rndr: Renderer,
-        {
-            type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>> = ($first::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>, $($ty::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>,)*);
+			$first: AddAnyAttr,
+			$($ty: AddAnyAttr),*,

-            fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute<Rndr>>(
+        {
+            type Output<SomeNewAttr: Attribute> = ($first::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>, $($ty::Output<SomeNewAttr::Cloneable>,)*);
+
+            fn add_any_attr<NewAttr: Attribute>(
                self,
                attr: NewAttr,
            ) -> Self::Output<NewAttr>
            where
-                Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml<Rndr>,
+                Self::Output<NewAttr>: RenderHtml,
            {
                let shared = attr.into_cloneable();
                #[allow(non_snake_case)] // better macro performance
Author	SHA1	Message	Date
Greg Johnston	faf0cb3378	fix: correct Owner restoration in FlatRoutes (closes #3014 )	2024-09-24 19:35:19 -04:00
Greg Johnston	bdc2285658	change: remove generic rendering (#3015 )	2024-09-24 17:01:57 -04:00
zakstucke	9d4ce6e526	Fix custom root when not using islands. (#3016 )	2024-09-24 11:42:54 -07:00
				`@@ -1 +0,0 @@`
				`extend = [{ path = "../cargo-make/main.toml" }]`